Geometry and science is logical, and all you have is a warped wishful thinking to the contrary.
We know that on a plane, without refraction, the only perspective change is distance, making a full object be totally in view, only smaller the further away it is. We know what the refraction rate of the atmosphere is, it is not a mystery. There is no way a full mountain is below the horizon due to refraction. Break out of your fantasy.
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The problem with this kind of post is, around flat-earthers, you're trying to be reasonable and work off of real life experience and logical inquiry, but they're only interested in repeating patently false premises like, "It's all explained by perspective," and "The horizon rises to the eye of the viewer," both of which are false, obviously. Perspective disproves flat-earthism and the horizon stays right where it is when the viewer changes elevation.
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I took a builder's level to the top of Mount Whitney and set it up to find that my line of sight was higher than every peak within view, and my scope pointed with level crosshairs into the clouds above Death Valley, 50 miles away. But for flat-earthers, such reporting is
heresy. Maybe I ought to be burned at the stake!.
Everything we can see and test on a small scale they say suddenly disappears when you go to a large scale. They claim the mountains in the distance are not in view because we cannot see past the horizon even when objects below the horizon would be in a straight line of sight if the earth were flat.
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It doesn't help to tell them facts in your own experience because they won't believe your testimony, or when you show them photographs they say it must be Photoshop or CGI. So it will never make any difference what evidence you bring to the table, they'll immediately reject it without even thinking about it, so they say they can't be bothered, and then resort to insult and
ad hominem. They do that because to die-hard flat-earthers, their flat earthism is a false god that they worship, then they prattle on and on in the name of the Holy Bible, but actually reading it is too difficult for them, especially when it says things they don't want to hear.
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If it were not so sad and pathetic, it would be really funny. But it's just sad and pathetic, sorry to say.
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