The Trundholm Horse

When I worked in health care, about 12 years ago, I was assigned to sit with a patient in the hospital who was a little confused and had the habit of jumping out of bed to go to the bathroom, and thus pulling out his IV line. He was elderly, and a retired NASA engineer. I sat with him for two days - two eight hour shifts. He told me that he knew things about NASA that no one would believe. The main thing, according to the retired NASA engineer, was that NASA was involved in was gun-running. They used the rail system and the Gulf to run the guns. No one would question freight that was labeled "NASA." That's how they were able to get away with it. That patient seemed very sincere to me. That's why I think that NASA is up to no good. That's not proof that they are lying about the earth being flat. It's just proof to me that NASA is not what it makes itself out to be.

When I worked in health care, about 12 years ago, I was assigned to sit with a patient in the hospital who was a little confused and had the habit of jumping out of bed to go to the bathroom, and thus pulling out his IV line. He was elderly, and a retired NASA engineer. I sat with him for two days - two eight hour shifts. He told me that he knew things about NASA that no one would believe. The main thing, according to the retired NASA engineer, was that NASA was involved in was gun-running. They used the rail system and the Gulf to run the guns. No one would question freight that was labeled "NASA." That's how they were able to get away with it. That patient seemed very sincere to me. That's why I think that NASA is up to no good. That's not proof that they are lying about the earth being flat. It's just proof to me that NASA is not what it makes itself out to be.

This is even more fodder for the fire. I can see the possibilities.  I met a flat earth gal online who worked for NASA and she explained how compartmentalized the organization is.

That NASA is not what it says it is has been proven over and over again.  With a budget of twenty billion dollars a year, all they provide is photo-shopped images and cartoons? Where's the money going?  Although it is true that not all employees of the organization are in on this ginormous Scam, NASA was born of nαzι war criminals right out of World War II.  As was JPL. Even Walt Disney, a 33rd degree mason and friend of Wernher Von Braun, was part of this new age cult-of-man in order to indoctrinate and bring about the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. That these and other organizations were designed for indoctrination and manipulation is little disputed because so much information about them and their creators is now exposed.  

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Such foolishness...

Quote from: mw2016

It is worth noting that besides the fact that there are ZERO references into the Bible of the earth as being a globe, or a ball, that the earth is referred to as a "footstool" of the Lord.

Think about that. This is because God the Father is seated on His throne. The earth is His footstool. A footstool is a FLAT surface with four pillars. What a coincidence that Genesis describes the earth as such!

Can you place your feet on a ball-shaped footstool?

No, you cannot.

I cannot??



How about that?!

Any more absurdities to offer...

Next?

All those people in Canada are getting squashed!

Maybe this is why they call earth an oblate spheroid?  

Flat earth photo I saw this morning. Notice the light beams illuminated by the ice crystals go straight up and down, not out in every direction.

https://imgur.com/a/3HBQC

Such foolishness...

Quote from: mw2016

It is worth noting that besides the fact that there are ZERO references into the Bible of the earth as being a globe, or a ball, that the earth is referred to as a "footstool" of the Lord.

Think about that. This is because God the Father is seated on His throne. The earth is His footstool. A footstool is a FLAT surface with four pillars. What a coincidence that Genesis describes the earth as such!

Can you place your feet on a ball-shaped footstool?

No, you cannot.

I cannot??



How about that?!

Any more absurdities to offer...

Next?

Neil doesn't like the reality of a traditional footstool so He had NASA make him an exercise ball instead.

Here's an experiment you can do at home to replicate this effect easily.
1. Take two pieces of paper.
2. Assign a "N", "S", "E", "W" for each of the four sides of each paper.
3. Draw a circle in the center of each paper, same approximate size. These will be your suns at sunrise and at sunset.
4. Draw a cross inside both suns to evenly divide them into 4 sections each.
5. Place a dot on the same spot in both suns within the same quadrant of your choosing. This is the position of your sunspot.
6. Take one of the suns and place it on the floor propped up (or taped) to a wall with the "W" side on the bottom, "E" side on top.
7. Take the other sun and go to the wall directly opposite and do the same thing only with the "E" side on the bottom, "W" side on the top.
8. Lay down on the floor between them so that your body is parallel to the North/South axis.
9. Turn your head to the sun on the left, then turn to the one on the right. The sunspot should be in the same place.
10. Now lay down with so that one of the suns is under your feet, with the other directly above your head. For this step, place a pillow under your head.
11. Look down at the first sun then look straight up (without craning your neck, use the pillow to cushion your head) at the second sun. Again, the sunspot should be in the same place.
12. Finally, to replicate the results of your Youtube video and how most of us instinctually view the sun rising and setting, stand up and face one sun, then turn around 180 degrees and look at the other. The sunspots will be in reverse positions.

How utterly arrogant to pretend you could give advice on an experiment you've never even done.

Since we have actually done it, we proved that everything you wrote above is false. As did the people posting the same experiments on youtube.

How utterly arrogant to pretend you could give advice on an experiment you've never even done.

It's called providing an alternative interpretation of your results, which people who are accustomed to making experiments actively try to control against. To address my criticisms, the horizons could be aligned so that:

-One pair has the horizon on the left of the Sun at sunrise and to the right at sunset.
-Another pair could have the horizon below the Sun at dawn, but above it at dusk... or vice versa, it would matter as long as the perspective is fixed on the Sun itself, not the horizon.

I just found this video which illustrates my point splendidly, albeit adjusted for the tilts of both Sun and Earth which is why the horizon doesn't perfectly bisect the Sun's axis.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/l4nxjfgleck[/youtube]

Now compare your clip which follows the Sun for a few hours on 12/23/2015 to a continuous shot of the Sun here at 0:55-1:03 and 03:49-03:59:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/7HIKdK-00pA[/youtube]

You will find the approximate position of the sunspots match up with the (gasp) Nasa footage past midday when the north/south axis of the sun is most parallel to our own.

Since we have actually done it, we proved that everything you wrote above is false. As did the people posting the same experiments on youtube.

Unwarranted self-congratulation. Let's talk about what you have actually proven. You don't have a mental filter to challenge ideas when they come to you, you don't seem to be able to logically process information once you assent to it, and your lack of ability to accept criticism and reply with a valid counterargument translates to making declarative statements, usually in the form of pejoratives or flat denials. You have difficulty with the basic meanings of certain words, such as "literal". And finally, you insist on telling Catholics that they are occult worshippers of the Sun because they don't agree with your half-baked theories of the natural world.

You have the mind of a petulant child, the mouth of a freshly grounded teenager, and if it weren't for your inability to handle yourself like an adult I'd think someone was paying you for the sheer amount of posts on this topic since you joined up last year.

If you want to try another experiment, try this:
1. Take a paperbag.
2. Draw a frowny face on it.
3. Place it over your head.
4. Stand in a corner.
5. Say "I will never compare another Catholic to a Baal worshipper over something as ridiculous as Geocentrism/Heliocentrism or Round Earth/Flat Earth."
6. Say "I will not post online until I go to confession and consult my priest."
7. Say the Rosary.
8. Repeat as many times as necessary until the urge to post on this topic leaves you.

You'll thank me later.