Author Topic: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat (Read 340723 times)

mw2016 · « **Reply #180 on:** January 13, 2017, 09:49:58 AM »

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Meg · « **Reply #181 on:** January 13, 2017, 10:14:20 AM »

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[Here's the thing about miracles: they don't obey the laws of nature. Hence, the word "miracle". Also a great reason why you cannot deduce natural laws from them.

One thing to ponder about the Miracle of the Sun was that for the rest of the world, the Sun was perfectly normal. Does it mean there were two Suns? Was one real and the other an illusion? At a certain point, the power of God is irreducible and unexplainable, it just is. It wouldn't be quite so wonderful if we could explain how it came to be.

True...miracles don't obey the laws of nature. But God is the author of those laws, and I would think that miracles have to follow natural laws to a certain extent, even though they may, to a certain extent, be outside of them. Apologies if that doesn't make sense. I know I'm not explaining it very well.

God's power isn't completely irreducible and unexplainable. I have no idea how it is that the rest of the world saw it as normal. We can't explain everything. But it seems more plausible to me that a flat earth model lends itself to the Miracle of the Sun better than the ball-earth theory.

Meg · « **Reply #182 on:** January 13, 2017, 10:35:51 AM »

When I worked in health care, about 12 years ago, I was assigned to sit with a patient in the hospital who was a little confused and had the habit of jumping out of bed to go to the bathroom, and thus pulling out his IV line. He was elderly, and a retired NASA engineer. I sat with him for two days - two eight hour shifts. He told me that he knew things about NASA that no one would believe. The main thing, according to the retired NASA engineer, was that NASA was involved in was gun-running. They used the rail system and the Gulf to run the guns. No one would question freight that was labeled "NASA." That's how they were able to get away with it. That patient seemed very sincere to me. That's why I think that NASA is up to no good. That's not proof that they are lying about the earth being flat. It's just proof to me that NASA is not what it makes itself out to be.

happenby · « **Reply #183 on:** January 13, 2017, 12:17:00 PM »

Quote from: Meg

Quote from: Croixalist
[Here's the thing about miracles: they don't obey the laws of nature. Hence, the word "miracle". Also a great reason why you cannot deduce natural laws from them.

One thing to ponder about the Miracle of the Sun was that for the rest of the world, the Sun was perfectly normal. Does it mean there were two Suns? Was one real and the other an illusion? At a certain point, the power of God is irreducible and unexplainable, it just is. It wouldn't be quite so wonderful if we could explain how it came to be.

True...miracles don't obey the laws of nature. But God is the author of those laws, and I would think that miracles have to follow natural laws to a certain extent, even though they may, to a certain extent, be outside of them. Apologies if that doesn't make sense. I know I'm not explaining it very well.

God's power isn't completely irreducible and unexplainable. I have no idea how it is that the rest of the world saw it as normal. We can't explain everything. But it seems more plausible to me that a flat earth model lends itself to the Miracle of the Sun better than the ball-earth theory.

Great insight. In fact, it is interesting that God chose to move the sun at Fatima. As if he were trying to tell the people of the age that its the sun that moves, not earth. As if a dancing sun isn't miracle enough, God does maintain certain restraint in His miracles, as if to respect His own laws, yet suspends those necessary. Also, the local, small sun is much more in keeping with the seers in a certain region such as Fatima. Who knows, maybe it was raining for adjoining areas, or just overcast. Or, God just manifested the miracle for one region. Our Lady wasn't audible to Francisco, so were there two ladies, one who can talk, one who is silent? One who was audible, one not? Obviously, there are not two suns. This is the kind of mind-bending unbelievers like to engage in. Fatima remains a phenomenon of geocentric flat earth and a proof against Heliocentrism.

happenby · « **Reply #184 on:** January 13, 2017, 12:34:58 PM »

Quote from: Meg

When I worked in health care, about 12 years ago, I was assigned to sit with a patient in the hospital who was a little confused and had the habit of jumping out of bed to go to the bathroom, and thus pulling out his IV line. He was elderly, and a retired NASA engineer. I sat with him for two days - two eight hour shifts. He told me that he knew things about NASA that no one would believe. The main thing, according to the retired NASA engineer, was that NASA was involved in was gun-running. They used the rail system and the Gulf to run the guns. No one would question freight that was labeled "NASA." That's how they were able to get away with it. That patient seemed very sincere to me. That's why I think that NASA is up to no good. That's not proof that they are lying about the earth being flat. It's just proof to me that NASA is not what it makes itself out to be.

This is even more fodder for the fire. I can see the possibilities. I met a flat earth gal online who worked for NASA and she explained how compartmentalized the organization is.

That NASA is not what it says it is has been proven over and over again. With a budget of twenty billion dollars a year, all they provide is photo-shopped images and cartoons? Where's the money going? Although it is true that not all employees of the organization are in on this ginormous Scam, NASA was born of nαzι war criminals right out of World War II. As was JPL. Even Walt Disney, a 33rd degree mason and friend of Wernher Von Braun, was part of this new age cult-of-man in order to indoctrinate and bring about the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. That these and other organizations were designed for indoctrination and manipulation is little disputed because so much information about them and their creators is now exposed.