Author Topic: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat (Read 340667 times)

Croixalist · « **Reply #145 on:** January 11, 2017, 08:54:52 PM »

Right, like mw2016, you also believe the sun does not literally rise nor literally set but merely emerges and fades from view because we can't just see far enough. What neither one of you has managed to understand is that your use of the Bible as literal in every single case, particularly in regards to the overall shape of the Sun and the Earth is faulty because there are at least 24 instances the Bible where the sun is described as "rising" "going down" or likewise setting. This is significant because your specific take on the FE does not accept this view, when by your own tortured Protestant logic it simply must be. God wouldn't lie about the movement of the Sun when He inspired those men to say "rising" and "going down", would He? Can you answer this honestly? Survey says no!

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #146 on:** January 11, 2017, 09:02:15 PM »

Quote from: Croixalist

Right, like mw2016, you also believe the sun does not literally rise nor literally set but merely emerges and fades from view because we can't just see far enough. What neither one of you has managed to understand is that your use of the Bible as literal in every single case, particularly in regards to the overall shape of the Sun and the Earth is faulty because there are at least 24 instances the Bible where the sun is described as "rising" "going down" or likewise setting. This is significant because your specific take on the FE does not accept this view, when by your own tortured Protestant logic it simply must be. God wouldn't lie about the movement of the Sun when He inspired those men to say "rising" and "going down", would He? Can you answer this honestly? Survey says no!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/XugZ9wGnk9M [/youtube]

mw2016 · « **Reply #147 on:** January 11, 2017, 09:14:39 PM »

Quote from: cassini

and now came the man who wrought it yet more deeply into European belief, the poet divinely inspired who made the system part of the world’s life. Pictured by Dante [in The Divine Comedy], the empyrean and the concentric heavens, paradise, purgatory, and hell, were seen by all;

‘Let us look into this vast creation – the highest achievement of theology – somewhat more closely. Its first feature shows a development out of earlier theological ideas. The earth is no longer a flat plain enclosed by four walls and solidly vaulted above, as theologians of previous centuries had believed it [sic], under the inspiration of Cosmas [Indicopleustes]; it is no longer a mere flat disk, with sun, moon, and stars hung up to give it light, as the earlier cathedral sculptors had figured it; it has become a globe at the centre of the universe.'

Quoing Dickson-White's opinions of Dante Alighieri's "Divine Comedy" and his illustrations of the universe is hardly compelling. The Bible, however, is compelling.

mw2016 · « **Reply #148 on:** January 11, 2017, 09:31:58 PM »

Quote from: Croixalist

. God wouldn't lie about the movement of the Sun when He inspired those men to say "rising" and "going down", would He? Can you answer this honestly?

There is no contradiction whatsoever as God CANNOT deceive nor be deceived.

The sun LITERALLY rises and sets every day for every man at every point on the flat plane of the earth. This is LITERALLY what you - and every person - sees with your own eyes from where you are, at any location on the flat plane of the earth. As the sun approaches you on the East Coast, it rises. When the sun reaches Missouri, it rises. When the sun reaches Arizona, it rises. When the sun reaches California, it rises. The sun travels in a level path over the earth, and this phenomenon is easily duplicated by all aircraft when they fly overhead.

There is only One Person who could see the sun from ABOVE its circuit, and that is God Himself.

You - or any person - CANNOT EVER attain the altitude of the heavens in order to see the sun traverse the sky in its circuit above the earth because God will not allow it. You know this is true because the Bible tells us so in the story of Babel.

Honestly, the fact that a human being sitting down here on the flat plane was able to figure out how the laws of perspective work and was able to clearly illustrate it is genius, in my opinion.

God's design is simple and elegant, and exactly as described in Genesis.

It is NOT as described by the high priests of the religion of scientism.

mw2016 · « **Reply #149 on:** January 11, 2017, 09:41:01 PM »

Quote from: Truth is Eternal

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/p_9cFTQg7NE [/youtube]

This is such a fantastic, small scale, real world, easy-to-understand illustration of sunrise/sunset on the FE model and how it works.

Croixalist should be strapped to a chair and forced to watch it 100 times until he understands it.

It really is so very simple.

I fear people who cannot understand this concept are suffering some sort of willful blindness.