Author Topic: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat (Read 92975 times)

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #30 on:** January 05, 2017, 10:36:20 AM »

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I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered.

That's according to your narrative that every pilot, engineer, etc. on earth throughout history is involved in a grand conspiracy to withhold the fact the they're not really circuмnavigating a globe, but rather going in a flat circle. So we're back to square one, and no questions have really been answered.

I'm happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability - fire away!

I thought you'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, hence, the videos.

Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains, satellite engineers, etc. involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not? If one or some have spoken out, give me a synopsis of what they disclosed.

Surveyors, Engineers, Pilots and Sailors Expose the Flat Earth

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #31 on:** January 05, 2017, 10:39:01 AM »

Quote from: Croix de Fer

Quote from: mw2016
Quote from: ascent
I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered.

That's according to your narrative that every pilot, engineer, etc. on earth throughout history is involved in a grand conspiracy to withhold the fact the they're not really circuмnavigating a globe, but rather going in a flat circle. So we're back to square one, and no questions have really been answered.

I'm happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability - fire away!

I thought you'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, hence, the videos.

Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains, satellite engineers, etc. involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not? If one or some have spoken out, give me a synopsis of what they disclosed.

Engineer Proves Flat Earth to Radio Host Mike Church - Nikon P900

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #32 on:** January 05, 2017, 10:52:10 AM »

Quote from: Croix de Fer

Quote from: mw2016
Quote from: ascent
I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered.

That's according to your narrative that every pilot, engineer, etc. on earth throughout history is involved in a grand conspiracy to withhold the fact the they're not really circuмnavigating a globe, but rather going in a flat circle. So we're back to square one, and no questions have really been answered.

I'm happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability - fire away!

I thought you'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, hence, the videos.

Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains, satellite engineers, etc. involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not? If one or some have spoken out, give me a synopsis of what they disclosed.

Career Land Surveyor: No curve ever measured - Flat Earth SW22 - Mark Sargent

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #33 on:** January 05, 2017, 11:09:32 AM »

Quote from: Truth is Eternal

Quote from: Croix de Fer
Quote from: mw2016
Quote from: ascent
I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered.

That's according to your narrative that every pilot, engineer, etc. on earth throughout history is involved in a grand conspiracy to withhold the fact the they're not really circuмnavigating a globe, but rather going in a flat circle. So we're back to square one, and no questions have really been answered.

I'm happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability - fire away!

I thought you'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, hence, the videos.

Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains, satellite engineers, etc. involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not? If one or some have spoken out, give me a synopsis of what they disclosed.

Career Land Surveyor: No curve ever measured - Flat Earth SW22 - Mark Sargent

You keep proving my point. Did you not read what I wrote? YOU answer and explain why there is this grand conspiracy by pilots and the others keep people thinking the world is a globe. I'm not wasting my time on videos until I get an answer from the actual flat earther who is posting the videos.

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #34 on:** January 05, 2017, 11:31:51 AM »

Quote from: Croix de Fer

Quote from: Truth is Eternal
Quote from: Croix de Fer
Quote from: mw2016
Quote from: ascent
I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered.

That's according to your narrative that every pilot, engineer, etc. on earth throughout history is involved in a grand conspiracy to withhold the fact the they're not really circuмnavigating a globe, but rather going in a flat circle. So we're back to square one, and no questions have really been answered.

I'm happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability - fire away!

I thought you'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, hence, the videos.

Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains, satellite engineers, etc. involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not? If one or some have spoken out, give me a synopsis of what they disclosed.

Career Land Surveyor: No curve ever measured - Flat Earth SW22 - Mark Sargent

You keep proving my point. Did you not read what I wrote? YOU answer and explain why there is this grand conspiracy by pilots and the others keep people thinking the world is a globe. I'm not wasting my time on videos until I get an answer from the actual flat earther who is posting the videos.

I got you right where I want you. :smile:

happenby · « **Reply #35 on:** January 05, 2017, 04:08:39 PM »

HISTORY OF HELIOCENTRISM vs GEOCENTRISM

Following historical trails backward in time we find Heliocentrism is a doctrine practiced and promoted by pagans. Conversely, Geocentrism is a doctrine founded in scripture and vigorously defended by those loyal to the True God.

Pythagoras was recognized by Johannes Kepler as “grandfather of all Copernicans.”
Galileo viewed the papal edict of 1616 as a “suppression of the Pythagorean opinion of the mobility of the earth”.
Heliocentrism is the same as the Pythagorean Doctrine or Copernican Doctrine and is the model accepted today.

The history of spherical earth and Heliocentrism, is 100% pagan, handed down from Pythagoras and held by pagans through the centuries:

Pythagoras
Eratosthenes
Aristotle
Plato
Copernicus
Keplar
Newton
Einstein
Sagan
Freemasons
NASA
Modern Scientism

The Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia states that the Kabbalah is the origin of the philosophy of Pythagoras. It was the secrets of the Kabbalah that led Pythagoras to heliocentric philosophy. German humanist Johannes Reuchlin (1455-1522) says that Pythagorean philosophy emanated from the Jєωs, not the Greeks.
Martin Wagner conducted an objective and thorough study of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and wrote a book about his findings titled “Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ: An Interpretation” In the book it is found that the Kabbalah is unadulterated witchcraft and occultism.
The Zionist Kabbalah Jєωs hide behind Gentile Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and control the sciences through various arms of the government, including NASA.

We have a history of the Kabbalah through to modern times where the spherical moving earth is widely accepted and people are continuing the process of apostatizing from the Church as never before. The Church took a stand against these pagan doctrines in 1633 when She condemned Heliocentrism. Sadly, people moved away from this teaching little by little through the next centuries and most have no idea how seriously it affects their Faith.

Catholics must be warned about the evils of the Heliocentric doctrine that promotes the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, The Big Bang, evolution, aliens, millions year old earth, and demonic modern scientism. Scripture is very clear: earth is flat and geocentric.

happenby · « **Reply #36 on:** January 05, 2017, 05:01:41 PM »

In addition...

Theological ‘pontiff’ for the Freemasonic religion and author of “Moral Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite”, Albert Pike teaches: “The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine.”
Albert Pike, Morals & Dogma, "Masonry is identical to the ancient Mysteries ", which means that all their teachings in all their books are precisely the same as the Ancient, Pagan, Satanic Mysteries.

NASA symbols and philosophy promote this same Freemasonic Luciferian
doctrine.

This 1979 medallion was struck to commenmorate the 10th anniversary of our flags “on the moon”. Many people do not know that Neil Armstrong carried two flags on the Apollo flight, one, the American flag, the other was designed by Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite depicting the double-headed eagle emblem.

This is one of many freemasonic symbols used by NASA to promote their agenda.

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #37 on:** January 05, 2017, 07:02:59 PM »

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Quote from: Croix de Fer
You keep proving my point. Did you not read what I wrote? YOU answer and explain why there is this grand conspiracy by pilots and the others keep people thinking the world is a globe. I'm not wasting my time on videos until I get an answer from the actual flat earther who is posting the videos.

I got you right where I want you. :smile:

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NASA symbols and philosophy promote this same Freemasonic Luciferian doctrine.

I agree that NASA is a fraud and pushing a diabolical and anti-human agenda. I also agree with geocentrism, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with "flat earth".

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #38 on:** January 06, 2017, 12:36:33 AM »

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As an example of keeping some decorum alive in the discussion, this guy seems to show some promise. He's just getting started so he might have a lot more to offer in the future:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/NKiI5k-_iaU[/youtube]

I think it's noteworthy that none of the Flat-earthers have a reply to the video I posted, above.

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #39 on:** January 06, 2017, 12:58:49 AM »

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As an example of keeping some decorum alive in the discussion, this guy seems to show some promise. He's just getting started so he might have a lot more to offer in the future:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/NKiI5k-_iaU[/youtube]

I think it's noteworthy that none of the Flat-earthers have a reply to the video I posted, above.

The Flat Earth Rising Horizon

happenby · « **Reply #40 on:** January 06, 2017, 02:45:47 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Neil Obstat

As an example of keeping some decorum alive in the discussion, this guy seems to show some promise. He's just getting started so he might have a lot more to offer in the future:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/NKiI5k-_iaU[/youtube]

I think it's noteworthy that none of the Flat-earthers have a reply to the video I posted, above.

Why would any Catholic bother to look when so clear evidence shows that the Church has always taught earth is flat and geocentric? Nothing trumps the Catholic Church, or the myriad of Catholics that attest to this truth. Answer first the Church. Show evidence that the Church Fathers, saints and popes teach Heliocentrism... or abandon it.

FlatEarthInquisitor · « **Reply #41 on:** January 08, 2017, 12:17:24 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Neil Obstat

As an example of keeping some decorum alive in the discussion, this guy seems to show some promise. He's just getting started so he might have a lot more to offer in the future:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/NKiI5k-_iaU[/youtube]

I think it's noteworthy that none of the Flat-earthers have a reply to the video I posted, above.

Some quick responses.

The main argument of the flat earth is the lack of curvature. Something you personally have avoided, especially when challenged by the male members of the forum.
It is not the phoney images of NASA. Even if we couldnt prove easily they were phoney, flat earth lack of curvature would still stand.

The thesis of the the earth is, "what we know of the earth is flat". That is a positive thesis, not one which just sets out to disprove the globe earth.

There are different types of manipulation. It depends on what you judge the motivation to be. Also, there are major things like the different sized north america, and the fact that experts now claim the earth is pear shaped, and yet the images don't reflect this. It is contradictions which are the most important.

It is not difficult to photograph the earth.

I agree that NASA faking everything does not necessarily imply a flat earth.

The round earth is big, but not that big. The maths shows us clearly that 120 miles across would make a different of at least 1.5 miles. Look it up, you're an engineer.

The best items for showing objects over the horizon, are viewed from sealevel.
Like the video you conveniently ignored back in the other thread? Remember, the missing few hundred metres you just ignored? Yea.

Just an aside, I find it amusing the way globalists like using the earth curve calculator, to try to show off how they are maths geniuses and we are jsut ignorant, but when you show them where they are wrong! Silence. You're not the only one Neil, if it is any consolation.

There is such a thing as circular reasoning. Some theories appear logical, but only within themselves. They are not truly logical, because they don't consider certain other factors.

The moon arguments by globalists are sometimes not properly studied, so
it can be easy to mock flatearthers.

His rhetoric about the flat earth being dangerous, is just wrong. This guy has not taken the time to study the curvature issue in depth.

At the end of the day, you like this guy mostly cos he has english accent don't you ?? go on admit it.

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #42 on:** January 08, 2017, 09:42:43 PM »

Isaias 40:22 (Douay Rheims)

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It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Our Lady of La Salette

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Water and fire will give the earth's globe convulsions and terrible earthquakes which will swallow up mountains, cities, etc..

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #43 on:** January 08, 2017, 09:56:22 PM »

Quote from: Croix de Fer

Isaias 40:22 (Douay Rheims)
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It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Our Lady of La Salette
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Water and fire will give the earth's globe convulsions and terrible earthquakes which will swallow up mountains, cities, etc..

Here is an illustration of the globe of the flat earth the above passages are referring to. :wink:

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #44 on:** January 08, 2017, 10:50:08 PM »

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Quote from: Croix de Fer
Isaias 40:22 (Douay Rheims)
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It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Our Lady of La Salette
Quote
Water and fire will give the earth's globe convulsions and terrible earthquakes which will swallow up mountains, cities, etc..

Here is an illustration of the globe of the flat earth the above passages are referring to. :wink:

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Wrong analysis and erred illustration.