[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/KnqBzncqS2U[/youtube]

The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.

Despite some atheist rhetoric (just ignore it), this video exposes "flat earth" retardation.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/JgY8zNZ35uw[/youtube]

Despite some atheist rhetoric (just ignore it), this video exposes "flat earth" retardation.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/JgY8zNZ35uw[/youtube]

You lose. You didn't even attempt to disprove this quote below.  :smile:

The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

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Despite some atheist rhetoric (just ignore it), this video exposes "flat earth" retardation.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/JgY8zNZ35uw[/youtube]

You lose. You didn't even attempt to disprove this quote below.  :smile:

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The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

That quote / fallacious argument has been destroyed many times over. Me debunking it with the same truth that has exposes its imbecility isn't going to change your mind. You lose, again.  

If it has been destroyed then you won't mind linking to a refutation at least.

On the topic of this thread,
This video of the dimond brothers has been responded to at this link
http://flatearthtrads.forumga.net/t62-video-of-the-dimond-brothers


Just a piece of advice, at this point acting arrogantly towards people and calling them retards etc etc. only has a limited effect and won't make the flat earth go away.

I have had this kind of attitude from everyone from internet trolls to respected traditional priests. It doesn't work and makes us look like the victim especially if we can respond calmly and rationally. It thus draws people to us rather than puts them off. Counter productive from your perspective.

The argument above has not been responded to adequately at all. Some will say that when you cut an orange straight around it looks straight. But it doesn't because the definition of a spehre is that it is a cirlce at all angles.

The second point is that looking at the horizon, the curvature wouldn't show because it is so big. Again false. The curvature would be visible albeit slight. It is sufficient to take a look at the measurements for the rate of curvature. after 120 miles, over 9600 feet of difference. look it up.

Maybe it's been covered on the other big thread but I don't want to search through the 120+ pages to find it.

I have two questions:

1. If gravity has to be so powerful to keep the water on Earth from falling off, how does it not crush us?

2. How do planes land on a north/south runway when the Earth is spinning/rotating at 1000 +/-mph? It seems it would be hard enough to land the plane going with the rotation, but it seems it would be way harder to do it against the rotation.
I've seen bits of the "air moves with the Earth argument" but don't fully get it.

Very good quesion, indeed. It is nice to see someone using their brain and not just calling FE "tards."

The very explanation from the religion of the scientists ("scientism") as to how graviy works makes it impossible.

We know from the Bible and from experiment (the Michelson/Morley experiment) that the earth DOES NOT MOVE.

But scientism says that gravity is caused by the rotation of the earth itself, as well as the rotation of the so-called molten iron core inside the earth - even though we have never drilled deeper than about 8-10 miles down.

Scientism also says the mass and rotation of the sun cause the gravity which makes the earth rotate about it.

You can see the obvious contradiction of both of these claims: the Bible says the earth does not move, and this was proven experimentally by observation in the Michelson/Morley experiment.

Therefore, both cannot be true.

If there is no movement whatsoever of the earth, there is no gravity.

Also, if you think about it, gravity is sure a magical, omniscient "force" isn't it? It somehow "knows" to keep people on the ground, but yet it allows planes to take off and butterflies to fly? Quite absurd, when you think about it.

In the FE model, there is no such thing, no such magical force, as "gravity." There is only mass and density, or buoyancy. An object falls from any given height because it weighs more than the air - there is no force "pulling" it. A balloon filled with helium rises because it has a buoyancy that is lighter than the air. It's pretty simple and much more elegant that the pretzel-logic that the priests of scientism have tried to foist upon the world.

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Quote from: ascent

Quote from: Truth is Eternal

Quote from: ascent

Despite some atheist rhetoric (just ignore it), this video exposes "flat earth" retardation.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/JgY8zNZ35uw[/youtube]

You lose. You didn't even attempt to disprove this quote below.  :smile:

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The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

That quote / fallacious argument has been destroyed many times over. Me debunking it with the same truth that has exposes its imbecility isn't going to change your mind. You lose, again.  

If it has been destroyed then you won't mind linking to a refutation at least.

On the topic of this thread,
This video of the dimond brothers has been responded to at this link
http://flatearthtrads.forumga.net/t62-video-of-the-dimond-brothers


Just a piece of advice, at this point acting arrogantly towards people and calling them retards etc etc. only has a limited effect and won't make the flat earth go away.

I have had this kind of attitude from everyone from internet trolls to respected traditional priests. It doesn't work and makes us look like the victim especially if we can respond calmly and rationally. It thus draws people to us rather than puts them off. Counter productive from your perspective.

The argument above has not been responded to adequately at all. Some will say that when you cut an orange straight around it looks straight. But it doesn't because the definition of a spehre is that it is a cirlce at all angles.

The second point is that looking at the horizon, the curvature wouldn't show because it is so big. Again false. The curvature would be visible albeit slight. It is sufficient to take a look at the measurements for the rate of curvature. after 120 miles, over 9600 feet of difference. look it up.

It's actually refuted in both the videos I posted. Don't be such a lazy FlatTard.   Watch the videos.

You still didn't even attempt to disprove this quote below.  :smile:

The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

 

And while you are at it, you should at least try to refute the two quotes below.  :smile:

The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.

The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.

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 A balloon filled with helium rises because it has a buoyancy that is lighter than the air.  

This can be demonstrated to be false with a simple experiment. Drop a feather in a vacuum chamber. It's been done a million times. for instance. Things don't fall because they are lighter than air. They fall because there is a force pulling them. Again, I encourage you to look up the definition of a force, as I did some weeks ago in a different thread. Motion, by definition, requires a force to cause it. Ergo, gravity is the force that causes falling motion.

The linked video shows a very small scale vacuum chamber.

This video shows the well-known vacuum chamber where a helium balloon does not rise at all.  So saying that a balloon filled with helium rises is a false statement, because in a vacuum the helium balloon does not rise, but falls instead.

Since the helium balloon not only remains on the floor without rising, so too the same balloon dropped from the high release platform with the feathers and/or with the bowling ball will fall at the very same rate as the feathers and/or the ball.

These objects fall at the acceleration due to gravity, about 32 ft/sec/sec ("32 feet per second per second").  That means each second that it falls, it increases its velocity by 32 feet per second. So after one second it's falling at 32 f/s, and after 2 seconds it's falling at 64 f/s, and after 3 seconds it's falling at 96 f/s. This acceleration increases without limit so long as the ambient vacuum is maintained.