Here is a very nice flat-earth legend:

THE EARTH ON TURTLE'S BACK                        

Before Earth was here there was only water as far as one could see in all directions, with birds and animals swimming around in it. Up above in the clouds there was Skyland. In Skyland was a great and beautiful tree with four white roots stretching to the four sacred directions. Every kind of fruit and flower grew from its wide spreading branches.

The Chief of Skyland's young wife was expecting a child. One night she dreamt she saw the great tree uprooted. The next morning she told her husband her dream. "This is very sad," he said, "for it is a dream of great power and we must do all we can to make it come true." Then the chief called all the men together and told them they must uproot the tree. But the roots were so deep and strong they couldn't budge it. So the ancient chief himself wrapped his arms around the tree and strained and strained, until with one last great effort he uprooted it. Now there was a great hole where the tree's roots had been. The chief's wife came and leaned over to look down, holding the tip of one of the uprooted tree's branches to steady herself, Far below she thought she saw something glittering like water. Leaning out further she lost her balance and fell into the hole. Her hand slipped from the tip of the branch, leaving her only a handful of seeds as she fell.

Far, far below in the waters some of the animals looked up. "Someone is falling from the sky," said one.

"We must help her," said another. Then two Swans flew up and caught her between their wings, and brought her gently down to the water where the birds and animals were watching.

She is not like us," said one of the animals. "She doesn't have webbed feet. I don't think she can live in the water." "What shall we do?" said another of the water animals.

"I know," said one of the birds. "I have heard there is Earth far below the waters. If we dive down and bring up Earth she will have a place to stand. So the birds and animals tried to bring up Earth. First Duck dove far down beneath the surface, but he couldn't reach the bottom and floated back up. Then Beaver tried. He went even deeper, so deep that it was all dark, but he couldn't reach the bottom either. Then Loon tried and was gone a long, long time, but he too failed to bring up Earth. Soon it seemed that all had tried and failed. Then a small voice spoke.

"I will bring up Earth or die trying." They all looked to see who it was. It was little Muskrat. She dove down and swam and swam. She was not as strong and swift as the others, but she was determined. She went so deep that it was all dark, and still she swam deeper. Her lungs felt ready to burst, but she swam deeper still. At last, just as she was becoming unconscious, she grasped at the bottom with her little paw and floated upwards, almost dead. When the other animals saw her break the surface, they thought she had failed. Then they saw her right paw was held tightly shut.

"She has the Earth," they said. "Now where can we put it?"

"Put it on my back," said a deep voice. It was Great Turtle who had come up from the depths. They brought Muskrat over and placed her paw against his back. To this day there are marks at the back of Turtle's shell that were made by Muskrat's paw. The tiny bit of Earth fell on the back of Turtle. Almost immediately it began to grow and grow until it became the whole world.

Then the two Swans brought Sky Woman down. She stepped onto the new Earth and opened her hand, letting the seeds fall onto the bare soil. From the seeds the trees and grass and flowers sprang up. Life on Earth had begun.


Creation Story from the Onondaga Tribe, From Keepers of the Earth by Michael J. Caduto & Joseph Bruchac

Neil,

I don't know why you are posting a creation story from the Onondaga peoples, unless you are trying to equate a flat earth with Indian stories. The Indian peoples tried to make sense of the world, and developed stories that would make sense to them. They were observers of natural law, especially in that most of them believed in some sort of creator.

My examples work, but you have chosen to think they don't. Just saying so doesn't make it so.
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We can see the sun just fine during night time hours, we just have to look at it from the other side of earth. There are people over there, you know.
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Please notice I'm the only one providing examples to substantiate my explanation, while the flat-earthers have no examples, refuse to take any measurements, and have never once attempted to discuss any of the objective data. That's because they don't have any data to discuss. They do not have sun rising times or moon rising times. They don't have specific distances for the sun from the earth or the moon from the earth. They just say "they're about 3,000 miles," but then the sun is higher above the earth than the moon is, never how many miles further. They can't give any specific numbers because they have no way of demonstrating where the numbers come from. It's all speculation and fantasy.
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Flat-earthism is a junk theory.
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We can see other stars clearly that are much further away than the sun is. It's just a matter of magnification.
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If we were as close to the sun as Mercury or Mars is, we would be feeling the sun's heat a lot more than we do.
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But flat-earthers in trying to make sense of the world, have developed a story that would make sense to them, too. The only difference is, the junk theory they've come up with doesn't make any sense.
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Wrong. Flat-earthism is the junk theory of yours.
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There you go, again, accusing me of heliocentrism. So, you're a liar. Simple. I have told you again and again, but you say I'm not telling the truth. You are a liar and a caluminator.
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Face it, happenby. You're just full of it. Flat-earthism is a junk theory. Wake up.
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