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Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #520 on: April 05, 2017, 02:08:07 PM »
Neil, 


There is no claim anywhere on that FE Trad website that Bp. Williamson is a flat earther.

I have never heard Bp. Williamson mention FE, but I wouldn't mind if someone asked him about it.


The website's statement says they are "supporters" of Bp. Williamson.


So what?


Also, why don't you answer my question about the Bible's description of the Firmament? Still waiting....

Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #521 on: April 06, 2017, 05:27:39 AM »
Hey guys,
Here is something I posted over on "the" forum. Hope you find it convincing.
Here is a pretty good example of something we should not see.
It is from the village hermanville in north France to le Havre, a well known port village, and the mountains above it.
The pictures I  got from google maps street view and from heywhatsthat.com, a website for viewing the contours of land at any given spot.

Here first map view of the place in question



It is from the pink X to the black X. It is this side profile which is shown below



For the earth curve calculator we are going to take 40 miles. You can see the elevation from the above image. It is just over 400 feet approximately.

We have given an allowance of 14 feet height for the camera from sea level. Pretty generous. Giving a few more feet will not alter our results significantly or detract from the point of the experiment as you will see.

Here is what we see




Here is what the earth curve calculator gives me. A whopping 836 feet. That's nearly 400 feet below the horizon. This would be impossible on a round earth.




Now the first objection usually given is refraction. That is why we took images from a sunny (warmer day) and a cooler cloudy day. There would be a variance in temperature and humidity, important factors in creating refraction and/or superior mirages.

Here are the results

A cloudy day



The first image was a sunny day.

Here are the two side by side, in case anyone thinks we are cheating with the different points at which the photo was taken



Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #522 on: April 06, 2017, 06:44:42 PM »
Cute, and deliberately misleading. Why are you measuring the distance to a point 15 miles into the plateau (or hill or whatever it is)? The cliff's edge is ~25 miles away. So you should expect to see 1-200 feet of cliff above the horizon (depending on the actual height above sea level of the camera, which we can't know exactly).

Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #523 on: April 06, 2017, 07:40:45 PM »

Re: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #524 on: April 07, 2017, 05:14:00 AM »
Cute, and deliberately misleading. Why are you measuring the distance to a point 15 miles into the plateau (or hill or whatever it is)? The cliff's edge is ~25 miles away. So you should expect to see 1-200 feet of cliff above the horizon (depending on the actual height above sea level of the camera, which we can't know exactly).

Actually, its only misleading if you are not paying attention.

And, as a matter of fact it is now you who is being misleading.

I'll explain how for people of good will (not you)...

Misleading, because you can look up the google street vie truck and see that it about this height. Also, you can see how close the camera is to the sea, and that it is pretty much at sea level.

Misleading, because at 25 miles there should be 278 feet below the horizon, according to the calculator. (the link is there for anyone who wants to verify it- and I encourage that) Now look again at the profile view and you see that at 25 miles, that is nearly all of the mountain! Q.E.D.

Now the reason I chose 40 miles is because it was a high point. But you have now given an excellent opportunity for the truth to shine even more.

Man, I love being right.

So, since you have nothing productive to say, would you like to admit your error?