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See what the pilot says at 23:50.
"I've seen the sun rise and set two, three times on a flight..."

Yes, duh - because one can easily travel into the path of the sun's light, depending on the route. You can do this on commercial flights also.

In fact, I recently flew on a flight that had this phenomenon and I photographed it. I'll post the photos in a little while.

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As objects move further away, they have the appearance of moving down.

It is not just that it sinks below the horizon, it is also that if the flat earth models were true the sun would move in a much greater curve in the sky than it seems to and it would rise and set in the same direction. I have trouble explaining it in words but maybe you could understand if you think about it. I have heard from flat earthers that the sun is 3,000 miles away. So if the sun is really 3,000 miles away from the earth the sun would be around three thousand miles away at noon (let's say on the equator) but at least twice as far away at sunrise and sunset so it would look a lot smaller at sunrise and sunset than it does at noon but this is not the case. I am trying to understand the flat earth theory and reconcile it with what I see but it isn't working.

At the lower angles of viewing at rise and set, the distance is greatest. However, you get the lensing effect from looking through the water vapor of the atmosphere, making it look larger.

At the 90 degree angle the distance is shortest, and the depth of atmosphere is shortest.

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Once again FlatEarthInquisitor, how can a flat earth have day and night rotating every 24 hours? Now remember we are here dealing with a mathematical and geometrical question, so absolute proofs are possible. We know the distance the sun is from the earth and therefore the distances its light spreads across space. It seem to me impossible for a small flat earth to accommodate this rotation of day and night in the manner that a global earth does.

Remind me of your theory.

The flat earth model does NOT hold that the sun is 93 million miles away.

If you are ascribing this part of heliocentrism to your theory of geocntrism, you are dead wrong.

In FE model the sun is about 3,000 miles in altitude and has a limited throw of light.

3,000 milers, you must be joking. We would fry if this were so. No doubt you can tell us how you measured this distance.

There is a science that can calculate the distances of the sun, moon and planets no matter G or H. The stars cannot be measured in a G system, yes.. There is a science that can calculate the curvature of the earth. FE has to dismiss both and depend on so many 'lies' such as no space pictures of curved earth are real, etc., etc.
That is why I for one am not convinced.

We would fry? Obviously, this is a complete lack of consideration that sun and moon remain inside the firmament as scripture says. Why do people choose to remain buried under the piles of NASA indoctrination?  The Church teaches infallibly that heliocentrism, the notion that earth moves and sun is stationary, IS FALSE and contrary to the Faith. The Church also teaches that the sun, moon and stars reside inside a visible firmament that is laid out as a firm boundary, like a tent, between heaven and earth.  Thus, by God's Holy Will, people certainly will not fry... unless they deny these Catholic teachings.

Origen called the firmament “without doubt firm and solid” (First Homily on Genesis, FC 71). Ambrose, commenting on Genesis 1:6, said, “the specific solidity of this exterior firmament is meant” (Hexameron, FC 42.60). And Saint Augustine said the word firmament was used “to indicate not that it is motionless but that it is solid and that it constitutes an impassible boundary between the waters above and the waters below” (The Literal Meaning of Genesis, ACW 41.1.61).