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But if the earth were flat, the angle between the north star, Polaris, and the horizon, would always be the same, regardless of latitude.

Not at all.

mw is correct. Why is everyone in this thread so bad at geometry? It is trivial to show the curvature of the earth with basic geometry. The greeks did it over 2000 years ago.

There is no curvature to the earth.

Those are all panoramic shots, and by their nature, would not exhibit any curve.

Panoramic shots are designed to work in this way, so these shots in and of themselves do not prove a flat earth, nor do they disprove a globe earth.

If you are going to claim that NASA's photos of the globe earth are fake, then you cannot use photos that have been stitched together by computer software to claim the earth is flat.

That is illogical.

Ok, do show, anything at all, that proves curve commensurate with a 24,000 mile ball.  Your own personal tests, someone else's tests, photos, whatever.  Please only untouched, non cgi, not photoshopped evidence.  But I'll take anything at all.  

Just to save you time and effort if you were to try, let me admit to you that no one to date has produced this evidence and I've been doing flat earth for almost 10 years now. Why?  Because they know it doesn't exist.  NASA provides glorious photoshops of all sorts of things in outer space, yet not one true video of the rotating earth.  Seriously? Not one single photo of the ball earth.  NOT ONE!!!  BY NASA'S OWN ADMISSION!   So, please explain to me where is your evidence that earth is a ball?  

Let me guess, you think earth is a ball...

1. Because NASA says so.
2. Because somebody says a shadow on the moon is curved.
3. Because teachers said so.
4. Because somebody said that flat earth is stupid.
5. Because everybody else says its true.
6. Because somebody says that the stars and sun and moon wouldn't work on flat earth.
7. Because somebody said ships disappear over the horizon.
8. Because somebody said astronauts saw it.

Wow. 100% of heliocentrism theory held by individuals is unsubstantiated, undocuмented, unphotographed, untenable HEARSAY!  I really want to understand why good Catholics maintain heliocentric theory, when the Catholic Church condemned heliocentrism?  Scripture only describes a flat immovable earth.  Church Fathers condemned heliocentric theory, including sphericity of earth, based on scripture, yet Catholics still have the nerve to hold this blatantly condemned proposition.

Maybe you could explain that to me. I really don't get it. What are people holding on to?    

As much as I think about the flat earth I focus on one point that I cannot understand. The sun's movement in the sky. I cannot reconcile how the sun moves in the sky with the flat earth models I have seen. If in the flat earth model the sun rose from the east and set in the west and at night went below the flat earth it would make sense and the sun would move the same way as it is observed but then you would have to say there is a vast conspiracy about time zones, but the model where the sun is moving around in a big circle over the flat earth and never sets just does not seem to fit the way the sun moves in the sky. So I do not believe it.

 God mocked Job for his arrogance, citing the fact that no one was there for the laying of the foundations of earth, nor understanding the celestial clockwork of heaven.  There is a lot we don't know, but there is a lot we do know.  For instance, we know for certain that ships do not disappear over the curve.  We know for certain that the horizon rises to eye level no matter how high one goes, and that on a ball, the horizon would actually descend in order to be a ball.  We know for certain that the coriolis force and foucault pendulums were scams to try to prove round moving earth.  We know for certain that there is a hard dome above earth forming a tent like structure over the earth with water above the dome.  We know NASA has lied about the moonlandings, photoshopped pictures of earth and heavens with the intent to indoctrinate and steal billions of dollars from the unsuspecting public.  I could go on and on, but that should be sufficient.  One thing is certain for me: all my life I never really looked up for long.  Now I do it constantly.  I take pictures of the stars and moon and observe their actions, I ponder creation and God's intent for showing it to me, and I thank God for providing me a clearer picture of where He resides: above.