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Offline Neil Obstat

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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2017, 11:53:01 PM »
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    Despite some atheist rhetoric (just ignore it), this video exposes "flat earth" retardation.

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/JgY8zNZ35uw[/youtube]

    It's too bad that some people think it's effective to be insulting.

    Flat-earthers mean well, they're just misinformed.  But some of them really don't want to know or think about the basics of physics or material sciences which are demonstrable in an experimental scenario. Anyone who studies a science major in college has to pass the basic physics classes, and if they go through the whole course they have to successfully complete calculus based physics. That means that they won't be coming out of that class with a passing grade and then proceed to make arguments for a flat earth or against the existence of gravity.

    The video above contains some good, simple geodesic and geometric calculations, that is, ones that don't require integration or differentials.  Even so, it seems unlikely that any of the flat-earthers even here on CI are going to press the keys on their trig calculator (if they even have one) to see that these distances are computed correctly.

    Consequently, and perhaps largely due to the derisive language employed therein, they will never achieve a significant degree of comprehension of the examples given, especially the one showing the calculated arc distance vs. actual distance traveled over Australia from east to west.

    In other words, the video shows some good stuff in it but they do it without regard to common decency and they throw out any polite decorum like the baby with the bathwater.

    As an example of keeping some decorum alive in the discussion, this guy seems to show some promise. He's just getting started so he might have a lot more to offer in the future:

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/NKiI5k-_iaU[/youtube]



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    « Reply #16 on: January 04, 2017, 09:35:22 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    Quote from: ascent

    Despite some atheist rhetoric (just ignore it), this video exposes "flat earth" retardation.

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/JgY8zNZ35uw[/youtube]

    It's too bad that some people think it's effective to be insulting.

    Flat-earthers mean well, they're just misinformed.  But some of them really don't want to know or think about the basics of physics or material sciences which are demonstrable in an experimental scenario. Anyone who studies a science major in college has to pass the basic physics classes, and if they go through the whole course they have to successfully complete calculus based physics. That means that they won't be coming out of that class with a passing grade and then proceed to make arguments for a flat earth or against the existence of gravity.

    The video above contains some good, simple geodesic and geometric calculations, that is, ones that don't require integration or differentials.  Even so, it seems unlikely that any of the flat-earthers even here on CI are going to press the keys on their trig calculator (if they even have one) to see that these distances are computed correctly.

    Consequently, and perhaps largely due to the derisive language employed therein, they will never achieve a significant degree of comprehension of the examples given, especially the one showing the calculated arc distance vs. actual distance traveled over Australia from east to west.

    In other words, the video shows some good stuff in it but they do it without regard to common decency and they throw out any polite decorum like the baby with the bathwater.

    As an example of keeping some decorum alive in the discussion, this guy seems to show some promise. He's just getting started so he might have a lot more to offer in the future:

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/NKiI5k-_iaU[/youtube]



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    Quoting a video called "Testing Flattards", because You can't disprove the quotes below, is insulting and or rather amusing.   :laugh2:

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    The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.


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    The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.
     

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    The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.

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    « Reply #17 on: January 04, 2017, 09:37:06 AM »
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    In the FE model, there is no such thing, no such magical force, as "gravity." There is only mass and density, or buoyancy. An object falls from any given height because it weighs more than the air - there is no force "pulling" it. A balloon filled with helium rises because it has a buoyancy that is lighter than the air. It's pretty simple and much more elegant that the pretzel-logic that the priests of scientism have tried to foist upon the world.


    This can be demonstrated to be false with a simple experiment. Drop a feather in a vacuum chamber. It's been done a million times. for instance. Things don't fall because they are lighter than air. They fall because there is a force pulling them. Again, I encourage you to look up the definition of a force, as I did some weeks ago in a different thread. Motion, by definition, requires a force to cause it. Ergo, gravity is the force that causes falling motion.


    Yes, you can keep making scientism's claim, and keep attempting to rescue their religion, but yet even THEY cannot prove it nor explain it.

    The priests of scientism have literally NO explanation for their THEORY.

    Remember that? The THEORY of gravity?? That means it is NOT PROVEN.

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    « Reply #18 on: January 04, 2017, 12:29:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: FlatEarthInquisitor
    Who's the retard now?


    You, because you believe "the earth is flat."


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    Flat-earthers mean well...


    A lot of them don't mean well. They're nothing more than disinformationists attempting to smear the geocentrism movement by attaching itself to it. People will then judge geocentrism as "nuts" because "flat earth" has been associated with it. That's how the flawed mind works, and these deceivers know it. They're also trying to make traditional Catholicism look bad with their concerted effort to recruit more FlatTards.

    For any FlatTard who would like to respond to the following, please do, for I have yet to receive answers from any of them to whom I posed the question on many different forums.

    If you travel east in a linear path without stopping, you will eventually end up in the same spot from where you departed because the earth is a globe, not flat. Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains and satellite engineers involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not?

    These are simple questions that should be directly answered.

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    « Reply #19 on: January 04, 2017, 02:54:33 PM »
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    Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains and satellite engineers involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not?

    These are simple questions that should be directly answered.



    They HAVE spoken out and answered your question.

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/VaUBrui9L1I[/youtube]

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/dFi98T8phoI[/youtube]



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    « Reply #20 on: January 04, 2017, 03:10:42 PM »
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    If you travel east in a linear path without stopping, you will eventually end up in the same spot from where you departed because the earth is a globe, not flat.



    You know you can do this on a flat earth, right?

    Here's my route sketched out on a FE map.

    Depart Los Angeles, sail east to Japan, past the Phillipines, thru the Straits of Malacca, across the Indian Ocean to the Horn of Africa, up the Suez Canal, across the Mediterranean, thru the Strait of Gibraltar, across the Atlantic, thru the Panama Canal, back to LA.

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    « Reply #21 on: January 04, 2017, 03:14:25 PM »
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    « Reply #22 on: January 04, 2017, 03:42:51 PM »
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  • Quote from: ascent
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    Who's the retard now?


    You, because you believe "the earth is flat."


    Quote from: Neil Obstat
    Flat-earthers mean well...


    A lot of them don't mean well. They're nothing more than disinformationists attempting to smear the geocentrism movement by attaching itself to it. People will then judge geocentrism as "nuts" because "flat earth" has been associated with it. That's how the flawed mind works, and these deceivers know it. They're also trying to make traditional Catholicism look bad with their concerted effort to recruit more FlatTards.

    For any FlatTard who would like to respond to the following, please do, for I have yet to receive answers from any of them to whom I posed the question on many different forums.

    If you travel east in a linear path without stopping, you will eventually end up in the same spot from where you departed because the earth is a globe, not flat. Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains and satellite engineers involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not?

    These are simple questions that should be directly answered.



    Flattard?



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    « Reply #23 on: January 04, 2017, 03:44:17 PM »
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  • For those of you that need assistance, the above Catholic teaching says that rotundity of earth is contrary to scripture.  

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    « Reply #24 on: January 04, 2017, 04:03:45 PM »
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  • Scripture on Flat Earth

    Job 26:7 “He stretched out the north over the empty space, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.”
    “He raiseth up the needy from the dust, and lifteth up the poor from the dunghill: that He may sit with princes, and hold the throne of glory. For the poles of the earth are the Lord's, and upon them He hath set the world.” (1 Kings 2:8)
    Prov. 8:26 “The poles of the earth.”
    Isaiah 40:22 “It is He that sitteth
       upon the circle of the earth.”
    Psalm 18:5 “Fines Orbis terrae.”
    Psalm  89:2 “Terra et orbis.”
    Job 37:12 “Orbis terrarum.”
    Ps. 18:5 “Orbis terrae.”
    Ps. 49:12 “Orbis terrae.”
    Prov. 8:26 “Orbis terrae.”
    Lk. 4:5 “Orbis terrae.”

    Orbis is always translated "circle", not "globe".


    http://browse.dict.cc/latin-english/orbis.html

    http://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-meaning-of/latin-word-3b58f269f20cb8a0576db4c5547ab969c8fd090f.html

    http://www.majstro.com/dictionaries/Latin-English/orbis

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/orbis


    Spherical earth is a lie promoted by pagan NASA and historical pagans like Eratosthenes, Pythagorus, Keplar, Newton, Copernicus (heretic priest), Einstein, Carl Sagan and evolution-promoting NASA globalists.  Earth is not a globe.

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    « Reply #25 on: January 04, 2017, 05:11:39 PM »
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    Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains and satellite engineers involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not?

    These are simple questions that should be directly answered.



    They HAVE spoken out and answered your question.

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/VaUBrui9L1I[/youtube]

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/dFi98T8phoI[/youtube]



    I'm not wasting however many minutes or hours of my life watching videos, when I directed the questions to YOU / THEM to answer. Why don't YOU / THEY answer my questions, then I'll have an impetus to watch the videos you're providing? It seems the reason you / they don't answer these simple questions is because you really don't have the answers. I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered.

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    [You know you can do this on a flat earth, right? [...]


    That's according to your narrative that every pilot, engineer, etc. on earth throughout history is involved in a grand conspiracy to withhold the fact the they're not really circumnavigating a globe, but rather going in a flat circle. So we're back to square one, and no questions have really been answered.
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    « Reply #26 on: January 04, 2017, 05:13:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: ascent
    Quote from: FlatEarthInquisitor
    Who's the retard now?


    You, because you believe "the earth is flat."


    Quote from: Neil Obstat
    Flat-earthers mean well...


    A lot of them don't mean well. They're nothing more than disinformationists attempting to smear the geocentrism movement by attaching itself to it. People will then judge geocentrism as "nuts" because "flat earth" has been associated with it. That's how the flawed mind works, and these deceivers know it. They're also trying to make traditional Catholicism look bad with their concerted effort to recruit more FlatTards.

    For any FlatTard who would like to respond to the following, please do, for I have yet to receive answers from any of them to whom I posed the question on many different forums.

    If you travel east in a linear path without stopping, you will eventually end up in the same spot from where you departed because the earth is a globe, not flat. Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains and satellite engineers involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not?

    These are simple questions that should be directly answered.



    The flat earth is geocentric.  :smile:

    Satellites' do not exist. Can you show me a picture of satellites' in space?
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    « Reply #27 on: January 04, 2017, 06:51:11 PM »
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    I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered.


    That's according to your narrative that every pilot, engineer, etc. on earth throughout history is involved in a grand conspiracy to withhold the fact the they're not really circumnavigating a globe, but rather going in a flat circle. So we're back to square one, and no questions have really been answered.


    I'm happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability - fire away!

    I thought you'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, hence, the videos.

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    « Reply #28 on: January 04, 2017, 09:56:37 PM »
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    Quote from: ascent
    I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered.


    That's according to your narrative that every pilot, engineer, etc. on earth throughout history is involved in a grand conspiracy to withhold the fact the they're not really circumnavigating a globe, but rather going in a flat circle. So we're back to square one, and no questions have really been answered.


    I'm happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability - fire away!

    I thought you'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, hence, the videos.


    Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains, satellite engineers, etc. involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not? If one or some have spoken out, give me a synopsis of what they disclosed.  
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    « Reply #29 on: January 05, 2017, 10:35:03 AM »
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    Quote from: ascent
    I'm still waiting for my questions to be answered.


    That's according to your narrative that every pilot, engineer, etc. on earth throughout history is involved in a grand conspiracy to withhold the fact the they're not really circumnavigating a globe, but rather going in a flat circle. So we're back to square one, and no questions have really been answered.


    I'm happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability - fire away!

    I thought you'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth, hence, the videos.


    Are all of the world's airline pilots, ship captains, satellite engineers, etc. involved in a grand conspiracy to hide knowledge of the earth being flat? Not one has spoken out and provided hard proof of the earth being flat? Why not? If one or some have spoken out, give me a synopsis of what they disclosed.  


    German ENGINEER/ PILOT Confirms FLAT EARTH & says GPS Satellites Don't Exist on THECONTROVERSY7

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