The problem is, you've been short on both civility and facts and reason when debating FE. You can pretend otherwise, of course. You seem to take the approach that Catholicism is only based on facts and rules, and that it's your job to instruct us on the facts and rules, as if we are children. You are not our teacher. Neither is Neil.

There is no obligation on you to try and make the fool wise, or to make the obstinate willing. Flat earthers have a free will, and at some point you will have to accept that and move on, otherwise you risk losing your own sanity and inner peace (which is what some people are aiming for!). You just have to learn to accept that there are bad and willfully dumb Catholics. And yes, if or when you turn your back on them, they will call you all kinds of names and triumphantly accuse you of all kinds of nasty things, but just consider that Our Lord was treated likewise and He remained silent. Follow His example, and shake the flat earth dust off your feet!

Jaynek,

Flat earthers are unwilling and/or incapable of discussing their theory scientifically. All they do is point to this video or that one as "proof". And when their pet video is refuted, they ignore it and point to the next one. They wouldn't even pass a science exam in pre-school. And if you persist in refuting them they will attack you with ad hominems.

If then they are unwilling and/or incapable of discussing facts, i.e. things they can see and feel for themselves, how then can you expect them to listen to historical arguments, which always depend on the integrity and qualifications of the historian in the middle? And how much more unlikely will they listen to, let alone understand, a theological argument? Especially considering that the Church does not teach and/or bind anyone on the shape of the earth. After all, here too, it all boils down to history, Church history this time.

There is no obligation on you to try and make the fool wise, or to make the obstinate willing. Flat earthers have a free will, and at some point you will have to accept that and move on, otherwise you risk losing your own sanity and inner peace (which is what some people are aiming for!). You just have to learn to accept that there are bad and willfully dumb Catholics. And yes, if or when you turn your back on them, they will call you all kinds of names and triumphantly accuse you of all kinds of nasty things, but just consider that Our Lord was treated likewise and He remained silent. Follow His example, and shake the flat earth dust off your feet!

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I've had students with your attitude. They got an F.

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Flat-earthers have nothing to fear but sphere itself.            

I apologize for all the occasions on which I have failed in civility.

I am aware that I am not qualified to teach people here (with the possible exception of giving advice to young women in the women-only section).  But every time someone claims that flat earth is a Catholic teaching I am facing an error about the Church.  I cannot see how I would not have an obligation to correct such a serious error.  I would appreciate it if people could explain to me how it would be OK to be silent in the face of this error.  I do not enjoy doing this and would like to stop if I could do so with a clear conscience.

I noticed SD has shut down their FE thread, just like they did their GC discussion in 2015.

Disgraceful.

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Yeah, it's great. So now's your chance to say something informative, for a change. That is, if you have anything.
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