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Re: 3 Full Moons Last Month 2nd Full Moon Tonight
« Reply #125 on: February 16, 2022, 12:33:42 PM »
Scripture argument cuts both ways.  Clearly Scripture describes the sun as stopping (with Joshua), and not the earth.  In fact, had the earth stopped, that would have been felt big time all around the world.  Was God working an optical illusion?

It's not "deception" to refer to the sun rising and setting, because that's exactly what it does in the field of vision and through perspective.  It does in fact rise in the sky and then set (fall) in the sky.  How is that "deception" to use those terms?  Does the sun not rise and then set in the sky?  What, in your opinion, should Scripture say, that it "appears to descend due to perspective as it gets farther away" (instead of "sets")?

It's called Copernican Revolution. The Ptolemaic model described what everyone was observing. Sun, moon, and stars orbit the earth, and the planets show a more complicated motion. On the other hand, the Pythagoreans had long claimed: Appearances deceive, the sun is not moving, the earth moves.

The Roman inquisition condemned the proposition that the sun is at rest as philosophically absurd (plus heretical, against scripture). Also, the proposition that the earth moves and spins as philosophically absurd (plus at least theologically erroneous).

These propositions are philosophically absurd, because they imply that the obvious isn't obvious. Every child can see what is going on, until it is re-educated and taught that the ground is moving and the sun at rest, or, more recently, that both move.

"Science" finally found out that they can't distinguish absolute motion from relative motion (Ernst Mach). But still most proponents prefer philosophically absurd ideas.

What happens when people accept philosophically absurd ideas? Copernicanism has lead to general relativism. Kant, analyzing the Copernican Revolution, even denied that man can recognize a lion as a lion and an oak as an oak. Modernism is another consequence that followed.

The more recent "Pythagoreans" or "Copernicans" are the modern flat earthers. They continue the tradition to re-educate the children. "No," they say, "the sun isn't rising and setting. It may appear to be, but in reality it isn't. You're deceived. The FE-truth is: the sun moves at constant height".

But the child doesn't listen. It is watching an aircraft approaching high in the sky on a straight line and then moving away again. No flat earther will make it believe that it looks as if the aircraft had been taking off (rising) when approaching, and landing (setting) when moving away again.

Re: 3 Full Moons Last Month 2nd Full Moon Tonight
« Reply #126 on: February 16, 2022, 01:18:57 PM »
Great video. Gives you a lot to think about.

Strange that some flat earthers, largely a bible referencing group, think celestial lights are above the firmament because scripture describes the lights, which are sun, moon and stars, as "in" the firmament, which is under the dome itself. Like all of them are located in an upside down bowl. It also describes water above the firmament, which divides the water from the water.

"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also."


Genesis 1:14-16

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day."


Genesis 1:6-8


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Re: 3 Full Moons Last Month 2nd Full Moon Tonight
« Reply #127 on: February 16, 2022, 02:11:47 PM »
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The pasted text was larger than I thought and I didn't notice until it was too late to change it. Sorry I offended you with my common sense. 



Re: 3 Full Moons Last Month 2nd Full Moon Tonight
« Reply #128 on: February 16, 2022, 04:46:31 PM »
Here's the Book of Enoch regarding the sun.  Notice the regular use of "setting" and "ascending"/"rising" even though the sun is reportedly passing through various portals (not sure what those are supposed to be).
It reminds me of Tolkien's Middle-Earth. :laugh1: 
When Arda was a flat plane enclosed within a globe, before being transformed into a planetoid, its Gates of Morning and the Door of Night were where the Sun leaves the world for the outer dark each night and returns each day in its cycle. Very much similar to the myths of Ra and his boat towing the Sun or the Greco-Romans with Helios pulling the sun with his chariot. Interesting to see that it's in Enoch.









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Re: 3 Full Moons Last Month 2nd Full Moon Tonight
« Reply #129 on: February 20, 2022, 04:10:13 PM »
Just wanted to take, oh, 10 seconds, to refute Dankward's gratuitous assertion (delivered as always such authority) that all impact craters are round.  Here are just a couple from earth.

Rectangular with rounded corners:


Square with rounded corners:


You'd have all kinds of things (in a wide variety of shapes) coming in from strange angles.  But instead (on the moon) we see this:


Perfect circles everywhere ... that also appear to be very shallow for impact craters.  These look more like bubbles in a liquid than they do impact craters.

If the following asteroid "Oumuamua" (probably just made up by NASA) were to hit sideways, it would NOT result in a circular impact crater.