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Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2018, 01:17:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on February 09, 2018, 01:12:28 PM
    Don't feed Samuel the troll, Meg.

    He followed kiwi here from another board just to troll him.

    Okay. That makes sense. But it isn't fair of him to say that FE'ers do not debate (which absolutely isn't true), and that we are just trolls from Menzingen. And then he of course mentions the devil and Pope Leo's vision, and somehow equates FE'ers with that. He tends to over-react. Not much different from Theologian Jayne, who said that I was promoting evil with FE.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #46 on: February 09, 2018, 01:24:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 09, 2018, 01:17:48 PM
    Okay. That makes sense. But it isn't fair of him to say that FE'ers do not debate (which absolutely isn't true), and that we are just trolls from Menzingen. And then he of course mentions the devil and Pope Leo's vision, and somehow equates FE'ers with that. He tends to over-react. Not much different from Theologian Jayne, who said that I was promoting evil with FE.
    Why take seriously anything said by Samuel or Mr. Garrison? 
    They have insufficient love for truth.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #47 on: February 09, 2018, 01:41:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 09, 2018, 01:01:39 PM
    You seem to make the assumption that the flat-earthers have not debated the subject or presented their views, but you are fairly new to the debate, isn't that correct?

    Meg,

    Please do yourself a favor.

    1. Read this simple explanation I posted here yesterday on CI.

    2.a. If you agree with my explanation, say so now.

    2.b. If you do not agree, say so now.

    2.c. If you don't understand it, say so now.

    3. Then look at the reactions of the flat earthers.

    Do you think that is being honest? Has my effort been useful? Was it worth my time? Is that what you call "debating"?

    I do not assume that flat earthers don't debate, I know it and I have proven it, more than once, the first time being nearly a year ago. You may be happy to ignore what you see with your own eyes and just take anyone else's word for it instead, but I am not.

    It is scary to see how easily you (and others) are being led astray. A few simple posts and you're back in their net, agreeing with them. Tell me, what else can I possibly do, except leave you all to it?
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #48 on: February 09, 2018, 01:53:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 09, 2018, 01:17:48 PM
    Okay. That makes sense. But it isn't fair of him to say that FE'ers do not debate (which absolutely isn't true), and that we are just trolls from Menzingen. And then he of course mentions the devil and Pope Leo's vision, and somehow equates FE'ers with that. He tends to over-react. Not much different from Theologian Jayne, who said that I was promoting evil with FE.

    No Meg, I did not say that you are a troll from Menzingen, but you are being led by them. And I am not absolutely sure that these trolls are sent by Menzingen, but I am absolutely sure that there are such trolls working for Menzingen, and I suspect some of these flat earthers are among them.

    The only alternative to this is that some of these flat earthers are simply the most dishonest and dumb people I have ever met. But I thought is was more charitable to assume they were doing this on purpose, rather than out of sheer dishonesty and stupidity.

    Btw, I know kiwiboy quite well and I know he is a good Catholic. But he is not being honest, although I believe his dishonesty is not malicious/intentional. He's just too absorbed into flat earth and has probably gone too far down this road to turn back now. It takes a lot of courage to admit you've been chasing a mirage for so long. He'll find out one day, hopefully before he leads too many others astray.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #49 on: February 09, 2018, 01:57:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 09, 2018, 01:41:46 PM

    I do not assume that flat earthers don't debate, I know it and I have proven it, more than once, the first time being nearly a year ago. You may be happy to ignore what you see with your own eyes and just take anyone else's word for it instead, but I am not.

    It is scary to see how easily you (and others) are being led astray. A few simple posts and you're back in their net, agreeing with them. Tell me, what else can I possibly do, except leave you all to it?

    What makes you think I just take anyone's word for it, as if I haven't done any research into FE myself, independent of anything that Catholic FE'ers have said? 

    You disagree that the earth is flat. Well, you're not the only one. What makes you so different than all of the others arrogant trads who want to disprove a flat earth? Do you believe that you have special insight into the matter? Well, get in line, because you aren't the only globe-earther here who thinks that they are special. 
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #50 on: February 09, 2018, 01:59:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 09, 2018, 01:57:52 PM
    What makes you think I just take anyone's word for it, as if I haven't done any research into FE myself, independent of anything that Catholic FE'ers have said?

    You disagree that the earth is flat. Well, you're not the only one. What makes you so different than all of the others arrogant trads who want to disprove a flat earth? Do you believe that you have special insight into the matter? Well, get in line, because you aren't the only globe-earther here who thinks that they are special.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #51 on: February 09, 2018, 02:01:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 09, 2018, 01:59:58 PM
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    Oh, so you have SPECIAL evidence that no other globe-earther has yet shown.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #52 on: February 09, 2018, 02:03:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 09, 2018, 02:01:17 PM
    Oh, so you have SPECIAL evidence that no other globe-earther has yet shown.

    No, I have SIMPLE evidence that ALL flat earthers (including YOU) ignore.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #53 on: February 09, 2018, 02:05:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 09, 2018, 02:03:53 PM
    No, I have SIMPLE evidence that ALL flat earthers (including YOU) ignore.

    You mean...disagree with.

    You think that you can amaze FE'ers with your evidence, as if it hasn't been presented before.

    I'm outta here.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #54 on: February 09, 2018, 02:11:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 09, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
    You mean...disagree with.

    No, I mean ignore.

    I'll prove it to you (again):

    1. Do you, Meg, agree or disagree with the explanation I posted here on CI yesterday?

    2. And if you disagree, I do hope you have a reason for it. Please state that reason here and now, or else, forever hold your peace (in other words, ignore the evidence).
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #55 on: February 09, 2018, 02:12:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 09, 2018, 01:41:46 PM
    Meg,

    Please do yourself a favor.

    1. Read this simple explanation I posted here yesterday on CI.

    2.a. If you agree with my explanation, say so now.

    2.b. If you do not agree, say so now.

    2.c. If you don't understand it, say so now.

    3. Then look at the reactions of the flat earthers.

    Do you think that is being honest? Has my effort been useful? Was it worth my time? Is that what you call "debating"?

    I do not assume that flat earthers don't debate, I know it and I have proven it, more than once, the first time being nearly a year ago. You may be happy to ignore what you see with your own eyes and just take anyone else's word for it instead, but I am not.

    It is scary to see how easily you (and others) are being led astray. A few simple posts and you're back in their net, agreeing with them. Tell me, what else can I possibly do, except leave you all to it?

    I have no idea what kind of evidence you think this is.  Based on your own math, objects 30 miles away would have to be more than 600 feet tall in order to be seen (assuming that both the observer and the target object are at sea level).  There are many of experiments which defy this math.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #56 on: February 09, 2018, 02:32:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 09, 2018, 02:12:47 PM
    I have no idea what kind of evidence you think this is.  Based on your own math, objects 30 miles away would have to be more than 600 feet tall in order to be seen (assuming that both the observer and the target object are at sea level).  There are many of experiments which defy this math.

    If there are many, surely you can show me one?
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #57 on: February 09, 2018, 03:20:05 PM »
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    • Please Meg stop engaging him.

    He is a fool who does not understand that each and every flat earther here arrived at that conclusion independently on their own.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #58 on: February 09, 2018, 03:22:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 09, 2018, 02:32:07 PM
    If there are many, surely you can show me one?
    I did. 
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    You IGNORED it.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #59 on: February 09, 2018, 10:34:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 09, 2018, 12:51:17 PM
    Hopefully I can find your reply ... since you said you won't post it here.
    Ladislaus,

    Here is my reply: http://tradidi.com/etc/fe-anacapa

    PS : You will not find this article on the front page, as I find this flat earth nonsense too embarrassing for the Resistance.
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