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Offline kiwiboy

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2nd proof of the flat earth
« on: October 18, 2017, 02:57:16 PM »
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  • Following from the 1st proof given here https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/1st-proof-of-the-flat-earth-lasers-and-levels/

    I give the 2nd proof of the flat earth...


    Objects beyond the horizon
     (from flatearthtrads.com)





    Objects beyond the horizon

    Both flat earthers and round earthers agree on the circuмference of the earth, approximately 25,000 miles.



     If those 25000 miles form a ball, as we see in the NASA photos, then there must be a fixed rate at which it curves.

     

    That rate of curvature is 8 inches per mile squared. This means that after the first mile it drops by 8 inches, the second 32, the third 6 feet, all the way down to 1.8 miles of a drop after 120 miles distance.

    If the earth is a ball, then after a certain point looking straight out over the horizon, objects should start to disappear the further they go away.

     

    In fact, we can calculate exactly when they should be beyond visibility, with various "earth curve calculators" available online, provided by people who have nothing to do with the flat earth.



     The problem for globe earthers is that there are consistently objects visible that should not be visible. Historically, we have many examples of this, but closer to our day, with advances in widely available camera technology, people can see for themselves examples of this.




    Here below we show snapshots of one of the best produced videos showing islands off the coast of California.



     The photo is taken from over 30 miles away. With height of the camera there should be over 580 feet below the horizon.



    The small islands should be completely gone and most of the large one, yet this is not what we see


















    We'll let the video makers speak for themselves...




    Note also how steady and integral the picture is. This is important against those who try to claim that it is a mirage, or some kind of refraction.

     

    If not upside down, a refracted image would not present itself with the same integrity and steadiness. The video shows this even better. (included below)



    There are many more examples of this. You are encouraged to go to this link :

    http://flatearthtrads.forumga.net/t17-objects-over-the-horizon-proofs
    Eclipses neither prove nor disprove the flat earth.

    "As for whether or not I work for NASA, I'm sorry, but I fail to understand what that could possibly have to do with anything" Neil Obstat, 08-03-2017


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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #1 on: October 18, 2017, 04:26:04 PM »
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 06:13:54 AM »
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  • In the first two lines of my post. The link I gave.
    Eclipses neither prove nor disprove the flat earth.

    "As for whether or not I work for NASA, I'm sorry, but I fail to understand what that could possibly have to do with anything" Neil Obstat, 08-03-2017

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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #3 on: October 19, 2017, 10:33:14 AM »
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  • The rate of curvature is a very important thing to consider. I have yet to see the globe-earthers explain it.

    To reiterate: As is stated in the O.P, if a round earth is about 25,000 miles in circuмference at its widest point, then there need to be a fixed rate at which it curves, which has been determined to be 8 inches per mile squared. This means that after the first mile it drops by 8 inches, the second mile 32 inches, and the third mile six feet, etc., until there's a 1.8 miles of a drop at 120 miles distant.

    Do the globe-earthers dispute this? I would like to see them explain it, if they disagree.

    The O.P. photo of the island is 20 miles distant from mainland California. Given the fixed rate of curvature, the island should not be visible. But it is visible. How do globe-earthers explain that?

    We've all probably seen Islands from a mainland that aren't supposed to be visible, given the rate of curvature.

    When my sons and I stayed at a farm B&B on the little Island of Berneray, just off the Island of North Uist in Scotland, we could see the Island of St. Kilda from the beach on Berneray. St. Kilda is about 48 to 50 miles away from Berneray. We shouldn't have been able to see St. Kilda at all, given the supposed rate of curvature on a "globe" earth. It just wouldn't be possible. Yet we could see it. 
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 11:04:16 AM »
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  • False premise:

    1. the Earth isn't a sphere.

    If you're going to be precise then be precise, including your representations of opposing views; while this seems to be a challenge for some, you can still try.

    If you've already factored this in, then please clearly link such.
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #5 on: October 19, 2017, 11:17:04 AM »
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  • False premise:

    1. the Earth isn't a sphere.

    If you're going to be precise then be precise, including your representations of opposing views; while this seems to be a challenge for some, you can still try.

    If you've already factored this in, then please clearly link such.

    What does your comment have to do with the O.P.? Did you even read the O.P.?

    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #6 on: October 19, 2017, 11:47:00 AM »
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  • What does your comment have to do with the O.P.? Did you even read the O.P.?
    Blessed Mother says the earth is a globe, did you ever read how she described the earth and designed the miraculous medal?
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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #7 on: October 19, 2017, 11:49:02 AM »
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  • Blessed Mother says the earth is a globe, did you ever read how she described the earth and designed the miraculous medal?

    Did you read the O.P., Myrna?
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #8 on: October 19, 2017, 12:00:45 PM »
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  • Not a premise, but a conclusion based on facts you wish to ignore. If 2+2=4 then why represent an opposing view that 2+2=5 (such as a ball earth)?
    For crying out loud you can't even see that it not only can be,  but is, both.

    Carry on question begging though; that's how ya'll roll 9/10 times.

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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #9 on: February 07, 2018, 07:00:27 AM »
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  • Excellent video on this topic


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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #10 on: February 07, 2018, 08:11:20 AM »
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  • The Vandenberg launch last month was filmed y a news cchopper in Phoenix,  400 nm away.

    That would not be possible if earth were a globe. 

    But, unsurprisingly not one glober responded. They would not touch it with a ten foot pole.


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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #11 on: February 07, 2018, 10:40:14 AM »
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  • Yes, I find these types of demonstrations very intriguing.  How do proponents of globe earth explain this kind of thing?  Is all this just faked?

    It's this kind of thing which forces me to keep an open mind about flat earth.

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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #12 on: February 07, 2018, 12:52:47 PM »
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  • Did you read the O.P., Myrna?
    You know Meg, Scripture says to knock, seek and God will answer.  Notice many of the globally indoctrinated REFUSE to ask, seek, knock or learn anything they don't already think they know. You're right, they are not reading our posts, except to find fault in some aspect of them long enough to respond.  Hence, the tendency to miss the point of any given post which they do almost always.  Once in a while someone will ask how something might work.  That person must actually be reading.  A commendable thing to do before responding.  

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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #13 on: February 07, 2018, 01:32:45 PM »
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  • Yes, I find these types of demonstrations very intriguing.  How do proponents of globe earth explain this kind of thing?  Is all this just faked?

    It's this kind of thing which forces me to keep an open mind about flat earth.
    Nothing but crickets from the globers.
    They are undone by a rocket launch and math.

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    Re: 2nd proof of the flat earth
    « Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 01:42:37 PM »
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  • So much for Neil's moon proof.  Super short video proves earth's shadow doesn't cause eclipses.