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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => The Earth God Made - Flat Earth, Geocentrism => Topic started by: Truth is Eternal on December 05, 2017, 08:23:04 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGSfzcmABq4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGSfzcmABq4)
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There are no proofs the earth is not a globe.
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Anyone saying there are is pandering fiction.
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And if he's a Catholic he's making a MOCKERY of the Faith and a scandal to those who might be interested in converting.
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They won't want anything to do with a bunch of nut cases.
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You have to be a nut case to believe in a "flat" earth.
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A proof that the Earth is not rotating would not be a proof that the Earth is flat. :facepalm:
Agreed. I believe in a stationary earth myself ... but not yet a flat Earth.
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A proof that the Earth is not rotating would not be a proof that the Earth is flat. :facepalm:
Yet, those who lie to us about earth rotating and spinning just so happen to insist its a ball, while their Copernican model of which it is a part was expressly named as contrary to scripture and condemned by the Church. Fascinating that scripture also speaks in flat earth terms. So lets all pretend that one illogical aspect of a condemned model is worth keeping since it wasn't specifically condemned, even though we know the guy that proposed it is known for having resurrected the idea from pagan sources. Yea. Real smart.
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Agreed. I believe in a stationary earth myself ... but not yet a flat Earth.
I too believe in a stationary Earth. The title of this thread is more accurate than to say the earth is flat, it says the Earth is not a globe. Judging by the fact that there are no real pictures of the earth, despite our supposedly going to the Moon and Mars, I believe the Earth is not a globe. I never thought anything about this subject (or the fake moon landing) till I read about it on CI.
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There are no proofs the earth is not a globe.
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Anyone saying there are is pandering fiction.
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And if he's a Catholic he's making a MOCKERY of the Faith and a scandal to those who might be interested in converting.
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They won't want anything to do with a bunch of nut cases.
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You have to be a nut case to believe in a "flat" earth.
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Flat Horizontal Horizon. ;D
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I too believe in a stationary Earth. The title of this thread is more accurate than to say the earth is flat, it says the Earth is not a globe. Judging by the fact that there are no real pictures of the earth, despite our supposedly going to the Moon and Mars, I believe the Earth is not a globe. I never thought anything about this subject (or the fake moon landing) till I read about it on CI.
Thanks for having the courage to say this.
There are a lot of lurkers reading the threads who feel the same.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGSfzcmABq4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGSfzcmABq4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY1sMeUa-fs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY1sMeUa-fs)
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That's a good video!
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I confess I have had this discussion with several of you many months ago, without much satisfaction. I have been interested in the study of gravity since my high school physics days and remain unconvinced to this day but that’s another topic. For reasons unknown I am going to list some lingering issues with the flat earth theory to see if any responses peek my curiosity. Thanks in advance.
1) have you ever flown on the Concorde when it was flying? Earth looked like a globe to me! 2) my good friend and his dad, both Navy pilots with absolutely no dog in this fight, flew from Virginia and went only one direction, east, and made it back to their point of origin flying easterly only. How could you manage that if the earth was flat. 3) a business partner of mine Colonel David Wilson US Air Force flew jets that had been out of service and serviced lost control of his F-18 and could not get control until his plane was at 58,000 ft. Again, he has no horse in this race, but he saw first hand that the earth was a globe. 4) it seems to me that if the earth were flat one of you fellows could fly over the end and send the rest of us a good picture. It would be easy. 5) ever heard of the USS Blackbird! From 50,000 ft it can tell you the amount of mail in your mailbox. Great plane! It has also taken many pictures of the earth which show a “globe” earth.
I actually have an open mind on issues that don’t effect my salvation, like gravity and flat earth, but I also have common sense and the ability to observe. Even though I recognize your attempts to show a flat earth all of the above issues would need be satisfied in order for me to study further. Then we could explore mathematics, the alleged massive deceit of NASA the viewable satellites in space at low altitudes etc etc. I am genuinely looking forward to your responses. Any ad hominem remarks will be ignored and ultimately simply lead me to move on once again. Thanks
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I confess I have had this discussion with several of you many months ago, without much satisfaction. I have been interested in the study of gravity since my high school physics days and remain unconvinced to this day but that’s another topic. For reasons unknown I am going to list some lingering issues with the flat earth theory to see if any responses peek my curiosity. Thanks in advance.
1) have you ever flown on the Concorde when it was flying? Earth looked like a globe to me! 2) my good friend and his dad, both Navy pilots with absolutely no dog in this fight, flew from Virginia and went only one direction, east, and made it back to their point of origin flying easterly only. How could you manage that if the earth was flat. 3) a business partner of mine Colonel David Wilson US Air Force flew jets that had been out of service and serviced lost control of his F-18 and could not get control until his plane was at 58,000 ft. Again, he has no horse in this race, but he saw first hand that the earth was a globe. 4) it seems to me that if the earth were flat one of you fellows could fly over the end and send the rest of us a good picture. It would be easy. 5) ever heard of the USS Blackbird! From 50,000 ft it can tell you the amount of mail in your mailbox. Great plane! It has also taken many pictures of the earth which show a “globe” earth.
I actually have an open mind on issues that don’t effect my salvation, like gravity and flat earth, but I also have common sense and the ability to observe. Even though I recognize your attempts to show a flat earth all of the above issues would need be satisfied in order for me to study further. Then we could explore mathematics, the alleged massive deceit of NASA the viewable satellites in space at low altitudes etc etc. I am genuinely looking forward to your responses. Any ad hominem remarks will be ignored and ultimately simply lead me to move on once again. Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXkCgB0cOGc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXkCgB0cOGc)
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I confess I have had this discussion with several of you many months ago, without much satisfaction. I have been interested in the study of gravity since my high school physics days and remain unconvinced to this day but that’s another topic. For reasons unknown I am going to list some lingering issues with the flat earth theory to see if any responses peek my curiosity. Thanks in advance.
1) have you ever flown on the Concorde when it was flying? Earth looked like a globe to me! 2) my good friend and his dad, both Navy pilots with absolutely no dog in this fight, flew from Virginia and went only one direction, east, and made it back to their point of origin flying easterly only. How could you manage that if the earth was flat. 3) a business partner of mine Colonel David Wilson US Air Force flew jets that had been out of service and serviced lost control of his F-18 and could not get control until his plane was at 58,000 ft. Again, he has no horse in this race, but he saw first hand that the earth was a globe. 4) it seems to me that if the earth were flat one of you fellows could fly over the end and send the rest of us a good picture. It would be easy. 5) ever heard of the USS Blackbird! From 50,000 ft it can tell you the amount of mail in your mailbox. Great plane! It has also taken many pictures of the earth which show a “globe” earth.
I actually have an open mind on issues that don’t effect my salvation, like gravity and flat earth, but I also have common sense and the ability to observe. Even though I recognize your attempts to show a flat earth all of the above issues would need be satisfied in order for me to study further. Then we could explore mathematics, the alleged massive deceit of NASA the viewable satellites in space at low altitudes etc etc. I am genuinely looking forward to your responses. Any ad hominem remarks will be ignored and ultimately simply lead me to move on once again. Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LilPAlmr8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LilPAlmr8)
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Plenty of windowseat photos show no curvature.
Plenty of high altitude (100K+ft) balloons how no curvature.
Why don't you look at those??
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Sorry it didn’t post. I did what you asked and saw several pictures from high altitude weather balloons. They show an amazing curvature. I’ll see if I can post them. I also have several from the SR-71 camera showing the curvature. Thanks
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This is a pic from the high altitude weather balloon.
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I recognize that the various pictures will be the most difficult proposition to use due to the universality of the alleged fake ness or the “fish eye” conundrum so for the sake brevity perhaps you can tell how a person can fly in one general direction and return to the point of origin without turning around or flying off the edge? This happens repeatedly.
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Emergency landings prove we live on a plane
https://youtu.be/KzmjDFv23Ng (https://youtu.be/KzmjDFv23Ng)
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If someone would simply tell me how my friend Ricky and his dad flew only eastwardly and returned back to their point of origin I’d be much obliged. Also at that point I’ll move along to the next point. Not trying to be rude. The picture issues, from the Concorde to the SR-71 to low orbit satellites and weather balloons are not allowed so I am moving on to travel around the globe on a “disc.” I promise that if allowed I’ll look at all your proofs of a flat earth but the reason I originally posted was to have y’all tell me why my observations are erroneous. Let me know if that is not proper.
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This is a pic from the high altitude weather balloon.
I just showed you fish eye lenses and the you post flat earth pictures using fish eyes. Thanks for proving God created the flat earth.
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If someone would simply tell me how my friend Ricky and his dad flew only eastwardly and returned back to their point of origin I’d be much obliged. Also at that point I’ll move along to the next point. Not trying to be rude. The picture issues, from the Concorde to the SR-71 to low orbit satellites and weather balloons are not allowed so I am moving on to travel around the globe on a “disc.” I promise that if allowed I’ll look at all your proofs of a flat earth but the reason I originally posted was to have y’all tell me why my observations are erroneous. Let me know if that is not proper.
Curved airplane windows distort the view.
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Now I just said that I realized the fish eye deal killed the picture of a curve for you FE and you retort by thanking me for “proving flat earth.” Go figure. If that “proves” flat earth then no wonder folks don’t debate you. Now there are thousands of pic of the curvature of the earth but since you believe there are equally thousands of folks in on the conspiracy again I suggest we move on. Please answer me how my friend and his father left Virginia and flew only east and returned to their point of origin without turning back. Thanks!
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BTW I am assuming your answer about curved airplane windows is not your answer to my question in regard to flying eastwardly and returning to your initial location, correct? My friends left the east coast of the US went to London to Germany to Japan to Hawaii to California and back to the east coast to their point of origin. They only flew eat and went around the world. How do you accomplish that if the earth is flat? Educate me if you will. Thanks
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BTW I am assuming your answer about curved airplane windows is not your answer to my question in regard to flying eastwardly and returning to your initial location, correct? My friends left the east coast of the US went to London to Germany to Japan to Hawaii to California and back to the east coast to their point of origin. They only flew eat and went around the world. How do you accomplish that if the earth is flat? Educate me if you will. Thanks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuthal_equidistant_projection
Plot those points on this map, connect the dots, and you have your answer.
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BTW I am assuming your answer about curved airplane windows is not your answer to my question in regard to flying eastwardly and returning to your initial location, correct? My friends left the east coast of the US went to London to Germany to Japan to Hawaii to California and back to the east coast to their point of origin. They only flew eat and went around the world. How do you accomplish that if the earth is flat? Educate me if you will. Thanks
(https://i.imgur.com/C3IWD4L.jpg)
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Biggest problem is the long flight from South America to Australia. Some people claim that such flights exist ... others that they are hoaxes; there are just one or two, while most others head up to North America first. And of course not all flat earthers believe in a circular flat earth.
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The only way that gets me back to the east coast is to mak a turn somewhere to travel back. Even on that map if you only go to your east you eventually hit the edge. If you keep going east your on your way out to space. Any chance you can send me a pic of the edge or a number for any pilot who flew past the edge? No matter the map you create traveling in one direction only won’t get you back to the point of beginning on a flat earth. Simple observation.
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The only way that gets me back to the east coast is to mak a turn somewhere to travel back. Even on that map if you only go to your east you eventually hit the edge. If you keep going east your on your way out to space. Any chance you can send me a pic of the edge or a number for any pilot who flew past the edge? No matter the map you create traveling in one direction only won’t get you back to the point of beginning on a flat earth. Simple observation.
(https://i.imgur.com/9gXAR8Q.png)
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The only way that gets me back to the east coast is to mak a turn somewhere to travel back. Even on that map if you only go to your east you eventually hit the edge. If you keep going east your on your way out to space. Any chance you can send me a pic of the edge or a number for any pilot who flew past the edge? No matter the map you create traveling in one direction only won’t get you back to the point of beginning on a flat earth. Simple observation.
You didn't connect the dots.
Do I need to draw the picture for you?
It's a circle.
The stops all make a circle.
The sun circuits above the flat earth in a circle (get it?) from east to west. The movement is "curved" by the magnetic pull of the north pole. The sun is circuiting around the magnet, as is the compass in the gyroscope in the cockpit that your pilot friend followed when he made the trip.
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There is no flying off the "edge."
There is a barrier.
This is in the Bible.
God says He "compassed" (encircled) the waters witha certain law to hold them in place.
That's the ice wall.
The ice beyond cannot be traversed any significant distance.
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(https://i.imgur.com/C3IWD4L.jpg)
I don't believe there is a magnet out there that works the way you have it in the diagram above. How can a compass prove flat earth so definitively when a disk can not be magnetized the way you claim the earth is?
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The pole is magnetized.
That's a fact.
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The pole is magnetized.
That's a fact.
That's nice....That answers nothing of what i said.
I don't believe there is a magnet out there that works the way you have it in the diagram above. How can a compass prove flat earth so definitively when a disk can not be magnetized the way you claim the earth is?
There are a couple different way a disk magnet can be magnetized. Having north in the middle and south at the edges can not be done in magnets. That's not the way it work. I'm not disputing the magnetism of the poles, I'm saying that magnetics don't work this way.
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Earth not a disk magnet.
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Earth not a disk magnet.
If a compass proves flat earth like TiE posted....and you say the earth is not a disk magnet...Then what shape is the Earth that magnetic poles would apply? Magnets don't exist in nature the way in the model posted.
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This is a pic from the high altitude weather balloon.
Perhaps this was CGI also?
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A proof that the Earth is not rotating would not be a proof that the Earth is flat. :facepalm:
No, but there are other proofs earth is not a globe.
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Perhaps this was CGI also?
Perhaps. But this test has been repeated several times from independent sources, from mountain tops, from balloons, from high altitude planes, all with the same flat horizon that always rises to meet the eye. If earth were a globe, the horizon would descend at some point as one gained altitude. Conversely, the only source for pictures of spherical earth come from NASA.