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Offline Smedley Butler

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Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
« Reply #255 on: July 25, 2018, 10:51:23 AM »
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  • We know that a rocket needs to attain a speed of 25,000 MPH to leave the gravity of the Earth and never come back,
    for going to Mars or Jupiter.  We have been able to calculate that speed (25,000 MPH) by using the formula used in
    Celestial Mechanics.  If we had tried to send a rocket to Mars with a maximum speed of 20,000 MPH, it would never
    have escaped the gravity of the Earth and would be orbiting the Earth in some kind of elliptical orbit.

    So, to say the we don't understand gravity is not very smart.  We understand all we need to know about gravity for
    rockets, satellites and the planets of the solar system (which are orbiting around the Sun, like the Earth does).  

    I know .... don't tell me ... BUT THE CHURCH FATHERS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH ...
    Give me some more negative votes.  That will prove me wrong.
    Earth has no gravity.
    Launching a rocket has to do with only 2 things to get it aloft: its mass and its speed.

    Offline apollo

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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #256 on: July 25, 2018, 12:05:36 PM »
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  • Earth has no gravity.
    Then why is the world high-jump record not 20 or 30 feet ?


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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #257 on: July 25, 2018, 12:08:12 PM »
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  • Launching a rocket has to do with only 2 things to get it aloft: its mass and its speed.
    And what speed is that?  And how does one "get it aloft"?  NASA might want to know.

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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #258 on: July 25, 2018, 12:15:15 PM »
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  • QUESTION. What is the force that keeps the Moon in orbit around the Earth?   The Moon has a velocity, right?  It has been calculated
    to be 2,300 MPH.  Why does it not go in a straight line and go off into space?  (I have my own theory/fact, but I want to hear what
    other people think).

    Electromagnetism. Get iron filings on a piece of paper. Place a magnet of two positive poles underneat and they will form cassinian ovals, exactly the same as found in all orbits.

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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #259 on: July 25, 2018, 12:20:16 PM »
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  • Then why is the world high-jump record not 20 or 30 feet ?

    Gravity is made up.  There's no credible scientific answer that's ever been put forward to explain how mass can act at a distance on another mass.  In fact, some scientists believe that what had heretofore been known as gravity actually is a manifestation of electromagnetic forces.  


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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #260 on: July 25, 2018, 12:27:00 PM »
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  • Theories about astronomy are always subject to change ...
    Celestial Mechanics is not subject to much change.  It has been accurate for a long time.
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    You seem to have this idea that everyone is smart and correct now and were stupid and wrong in the past ...
    Not really.  I'm in agreement with Pascendi.  I'm opposed to Evolution.
    My use of the term "dark ages" was directed specifically at the thinking of certain individuals replying to this topic,
    who seem to think all science is evil.  Actually, I love Chopin and Beethoven.  Also Rembrandt lighting in portraiture. 

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    « Reply #261 on: July 25, 2018, 12:34:13 PM »
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  • Electromagnetism. Get iron filings on a piece of paper. Place a magnet of two positive poles underneat and they will form cassinian ovals, exactly the same as found in all orbits.
    OK, noted. So if I get the iron out of my body, will I weight less?

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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #262 on: July 25, 2018, 12:51:11 PM »
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  • We know that a rocket needs to attain a speed of 25,000 MPH to leave the gravity of the Earth and never come back,
    for going to Mars or Jupiter.  We have been able to calculate that speed (25,000 MPH) by using the formula used in
    Celestial Mechanics.  If we had tried to send a rocket to Mars with a maximum speed of 20,000 MPH, it would never
    have escaped the gravity of the Earth and would be orbiting the Earth in some kind of elliptical orbit.

    So, to say the we don't understand gravity is not very smart.  We understand all we need to know about gravity for
    rockets, satellites and the planets of the solar system (which are orbiting around the Sun, like the Earth does).  

    I know .... don't tell me ... BUT THE CHURCH FATHERS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH ...
    Give me some more negative votes.  That will prove me wrong.

    It is obvious to me now Apollo that you avoid many of the replies to your position. This tells me you are not open to faith or reason. You keep insulting the Fathers, popes and theologians saying they have no expertese in astronomy.

    It was Galileo who said ASTRONOMY would correct Scriptuiral exegesis. The astronomy that we geocentrists defend FIRST is the geocentrism of SCRIPTURE. It has God as its Author so He knows how he created it. The popes had every right to defend Scripture against the ideologies of philosophers AND GUYS LIKE YOURSELF. So no more BUT THE CHURCH FATHERS BLAH, BLAH,BAH... if you dont mind. They simply interpreted the Word of God, and did NOT indulge in cosmology. 

    There are times when you write like a ten-year-old. 'To say we don't understand gravity is not very smart' you write. By this I/WE MEAN WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT CAUSES GRAVITY, NOT HOW IT WORKS ON EARTH. I have already told you there are at least 5 different viable SCIENTIFIC THEORIES FOR THE CAUSE OF GRAVITY. You picked Newton's, but please do not tell us that his theory is a law.

    Finally, here is a question on gravity in which you can show us all how much you know about it. Now I will be waiting for your answer knowall.

    If I am on a train and I throw a ball as it passes a building, what speed will the ball hit the wall at? Won't it be the speed of the train PLUS the speed with which I throw it?

    Now the 25,000mph needed to get a rocket into space. But given the rocket is launched off the earth (A TRAIN) doing 72,000mph shouldn't the rocket fly off into space at 97,000mph? Now get in touch with your pals in NASA and ask them at what rate they calculate the time it will take to get to its destination. Do they start at 97,000mph, so that it takes one hour to do 97,000miles.
    When you get an answer let us know Apollo.


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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #263 on: July 25, 2018, 12:56:51 PM »
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  • OK, noted. So if I get the iron out of my body, will I weight less?

    See everybody, Apollo cannot cope with facts so tries to make a joke out of it.

    Apollo, YOU ARE PATHETIC. I FOR ONE AM OFF. YOU ARE A WASTE OF SPACE ON A DISCUSSION FORUM.

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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #264 on: July 25, 2018, 12:59:41 PM »
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  • Celestial Mechanics is not subject to much change.  It has been accurate for a long time. Not really.  I'm in agreement with Pascendi.  I'm opposed to Evolution.
    My use of the term "dark ages" was directed specifically at the thinking of certain individuals replying to this topic,
    who seem to think all science is evil.  Actually, I love Chopin and Beethoven.  Also Rembrandt lighting in portraiture.

    Oh, one final joke Apollo.

    Your heliocentrism is an evolved theory (Nebular theory). Yet above you say you are opposed to evolution. You couldn't make it up.

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    « Reply #265 on: July 25, 2018, 01:29:03 PM »
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  • Oh, one final joke Apollo.
    Your heliocentrism is an evolved theory (Nebular theory). Yet above you say you are opposed to evolution. You couldn't make it up.
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    Hey guys, it was fun, but I've got some work to do, no more time for insults and speculation.
    NASA has offered me a job after reading my replies.  I've got to go launch some rockets and write 
    some numerical analysis software, double integration, using Gaussian quadrature (you know). 
    Good luck with your rocket built out of magnets.  Love, peace, charity.


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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #266 on: July 25, 2018, 03:00:43 PM »
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  • See everybody, Apollo cannot cope with facts so tries to make a joke out of it.

    Apollo, YOU ARE PATHETIC. I FOR ONE AM OFF. YOU ARE A WASTE OF SPACE ON A DISCUSSION FORUM.

    I am not saying that Apollo is evil, yet I can not help noting here that evil often hides behind a mask of humor, just as Freemasons often disguise their evil agenda behind a philanthropic disguise.

    As a slight aside, I am reminded of how Francis put on a foolish grin for the infamous photo op behind that red circus nose (or how he bowed down before a Jєωιѕн female secretary from Israel, yet fails to bow down, let alone genuflect, during the Consecration (?) at the NO Mass.

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    « Reply #267 on: July 26, 2018, 10:46:25 AM »
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  • GEOCENTRISM vs HELIOCENTRISM VIDEO ...






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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #268 on: August 04, 2018, 07:22:54 PM »
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  • I am not saying that Apollo is evil, yet I can not help noting here that evil often hides behind a mask of humor, just as Freemasons often disguise their evil agenda behind a philanthropic disguise.

    As a slight aside, I am reminded of how Francis put on a foolish grin for the infamous photo op behind that red circus nose (or how he bowed down before a Jєωιѕн female secretary from Israel, yet fails to bow down, let alone genuflect, during the Consecration (?) at the NO Mass.
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    Or when he pulls the altar cloth out from under the candlesticks.
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    Re: "The Heliocentric Hoax" (by Fr. Robinson's stepfather)
    « Reply #269 on: August 24, 2018, 10:13:03 AM »
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  • .
    This whole thread is a microcosm of the controversy.
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