As we look out at the sky from our immobile Earth, we see that all celestial bodies have proper daily, monthly, annual and multi-yearly movement, that is, a daily rotation around the Earth, a monthly orbit for the moon, an annual orbit for the sun, and a multi-year cycle for planets, comets and the precession of the stars. The Earth’s motionless centrality was considered by Aristotle to be its gravitational ‘natural place.’ St Ambrose of Milan (†397), however, and other Fathers of the Church, like St Gregory Naxianzus (†390) and St Basil the Great (†379), attributed the geocentricity of the Earth to divine Providence alone.

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Not true. Some of the celestial bodies (planets) appear to have a non-proper daily motion, called retrograde motion.  This can only be explained
by Heliocentrism in a simple way.  It can be explained by a Geocentrism that is so complex that it is insane.

I don't give a damn what Aristotle thought or what St Ambrose believed about Astronomy.  I don't care what the Fathers of the Church believed
about Astronomy. 

Like I said, you need to get out of the dark ages.

There is nothing in the Universe that is fixed in position... :cheers:

It is one of Galileo's greatest astronomical mistakes to presume that S is fixed in center of U...

Fr. Alphonsus Maria, C.SS.R., currently working with the SSPX, claims that St. Alphonsus de Liguori was a heliocentrist.

There's a reason your screen name is that of the pagan sun god.

There's a reason your screen name is that of the pagan sun god.

Neil Obstat already said that a long time ago. Actually that is a name someone used to call me many years ago.

I just watched a video, a talk by Dr. Robert Sungenis given in Dallas, TX, published in Dec. 2015.
I now realize that I have been narrowly focused on the Newtonian (gravitational) aspect of the
Solar System.  Robert Sungenis focuses on a much larger aspect, using the whole universe.  
He has shown me why so many Catholics like the idea of Geocentrism.

HOWEVER, he admits that if one focuses only on the Solar System, the Newtonian (gravitational)
theories show that the Earth orbits around the Sun, no question about it.  

Nevertheless, he claims that there are forces outside our Solar System that change the Newtonian
Solar System model into a different model where the Earth may very well be at the center of the
Universe.  

Finally, I disagree with his concept of forces outside of our Solar System, but I don't want to go
into that in this reply.  I want to see if there is sufficient interest in this advanced part of the debate.  
I also disagree with his main arguments about why the Earth must be at the center and I disagree
with his claim that the Bible says the Earth is at the center and not rotating and not orbiting the
Sun.

BTW, I'm sorry for my lack of patience with people, but I do think it's not fair for people to keep
shouting the same thing over and over again, when I've already given my argument against it.

Here is the Video:

Your lack of respect for the great thinkers of the past limits your understanding of the present.  You need to learn some humility and some history.

Humility? OK.  
Great thinkers of the past? What this usually means is that I cannot disagree with the Fathers of the Church,
whose business was religion and Catholic dogma, but not Astronomy.

They may be out of date, since we have better telescopes than they had.  So we may know more than they
knew.  There have been mathematical discoveries since they lived on the Earth.  Respect for them?  OK.   But
if their theories are now known to be incorrect, we can say so, especially on non-religious subjects, such as 
Astronomy.

So, to say the we don't understand gravity is not very smart.  We understand all we need to know about gravity for
rockets, satellites and the planets of the solar system (which are orbiting around the Sun, like the Earth does).  

Please provide actual photos of your heliocentric solar system that are not CG'd.