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Offline s2srea

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We need a new crusade
« on: August 08, 2014, 12:32:51 PM »
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    • Too bad our pope is a wuss; more interested in inviting the infidels over to pray to their false god than do anything of value. Look how far your rediculous act has gotten you Francis- children and women being beheaded in Iraq and elsewhere.
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    Offline TheKnightVigilant

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    « Reply #1 on: August 08, 2014, 12:48:37 PM »
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    • I'd sign up.
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    « Reply #2 on: August 10, 2014, 01:14:46 AM »
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    • They should ship some crates of Kalashnikovs  and RPGs to the Chaldeans.

    Meh... I guess some to the Orthodox too.

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    Offline LaramieHirsch

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    « Reply #3 on: August 10, 2014, 01:58:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: s2srea
    Too bad our pope is a wuss; more interested in inviting the infidels over to pray to their false god than do anything of value. Look how far your rediculous act has gotten you Francis- children and women being beheaded in Iraq and elsewhere.


    Leadership is too busy praying for peace instead of victory.  

    Peace can be achieved easily.  All the Christians need to do is to lay down and die.  Pope Francis' goal would be achieved, because then there'd be peace.  


    Victory, on the other hand, confounds our leadership.  




    ...I've already covered this, though.  Here:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Bp-Pates-and-Pope-Francis-approach-to-Iraq
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    Offline LaramieHirsch

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    « Reply #4 on: August 10, 2014, 04:18:25 AM »
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    • Our so-called President I'm-going-to-screw-over-America Obama is off on another damned vacation at Martha's Vineyard while pictures of kids getting their heads cut off keeps pouring out onto the internet.  


    Is no one else pissed off at this?  Is everyone too busy?  What the hell is wrong here?  


    Is no one in this world going to organize men to go over there with weapons to kill the enemy and protect the last remnant of Iraqi Christians?  If not a state power, then a private party?  What the hell?
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    Offline LaramieHirsch

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    « Reply #5 on: August 10, 2014, 03:02:19 PM »
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    • Bah.  I was just sort of emotional yesterday.  Vox Day was right in today's post.  There is no point for anyone in the West to intercede with military force, because once they left, the place would revert to its current barbarism.  

    What simply needs to happen is a clear battle between a Christian West and the Islamic Middle East, with the Christians conquering and settling indefinitely to assure permanent victory.  

    This, they say, will not happen until the Great Monarch.  So I suppose we should be hoping that he comes along at some point.  

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    What West?

    With Easterners murdering Easterners again, the cry rises once more: the West must act!

    -The West must face the evil that has revealed itself in the Iraq genocide - Michael nαzιr-Ali
    -The West must intervene in Iraq - Lord Dannatt
    -The decision to intervene is almost certainly the right call - Ross Douthat

    Why? What possible interest does the West have in keeping Easterners from killing each other? France imported tens of thousands of pro-French Algerians to keep them from being murdered by other Algerians, now their police don't dare to enter the slums inhabited by the grandchildren of those Algerians. The USA has been importing people from every single one of its post-WWI foreign engagements of the previous century, what benefit has that been to Americans beyond nearly exposing the people of Coon Rapids, Minnesota, to Ebola?

    Did Rome concern itself when one Chinese king was slaughtering other Chinese? Did Imperial Japan intervene in the Dutch-Spanish war?

    The West is in no position to help anyone now that it has been invaded by more than 30 million Muslims and Africans and 50 million Hispanics. With the center of gravity under assault, nothing at all will be accomplished elsewhere. Considering that the present debacle is the direct result of the last two failed Western interventions, why does anyone believe that a third one will improve anything, rather than make it worse?

    Besides, the "West" is already involved. There are presently more than 500 "Britons" fighting with ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Which means the West shouldn't concern itself with the wars over there, it should be preparing to fight the inevitable one over here.


    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/08/what-west.html
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    Offline LaramieHirsch

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    « Reply #6 on: August 10, 2014, 06:57:54 PM »
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    • More thoughts on the genocide we--America--created in Iraq.  

    I posted this over at VD's site:



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    When I saw the behedings of toddlers in the last few days, I was very very enraged. I thought we should go over to Iraq and kill all ISIS minions without mercy.

    But what would that serve? The same thing would just happen again once we left. I slept on the issue for two days. And it is clear that going over to Iraq again is not a good answer. This country is incapable of doing anything good like that.

    What needs to happen in Iraq is what has needed to happen all along: the Christian West needs to go to war with the Muslim East, and settle in territories indefinitely to ensure this never happens again. This is what was needed ever since the end of the First Crusade. But America is certainly not even willing to acknowledge God, so the US is not capable of doing this.

    Therefore, the best way for Americans to help stop the ISIS is to force the government to stop funding them. Also, Americans need to fund any kind of relief forces that may be left, if there are any. Because the machine behind Obama is funding ISIS.

    Then again, the government does not even listen to us on the immigration issue, so what is the chances of succeeding in stopping terror funding? Probably slim.


    Who do we blame? Ourselves. I was once a neocon Zionist. I was not always a full Christian...which is to say, a Catholic. When September 11, 2001 occurred, we were all enraged, and we were told that a group named Al Queda had attacked us, and we were told by our leader--who we trusted at the time--that Al Queda had set up shop in Iraq and had weapons there. We believed the lie, and we supported the idea of sending our military into Iraq.

    We were warned, of course. We were warned by the Pope at the time. But we believed the lies we were fed, and we supported the actions that led to this current genocide. If we had not driven out Saddam Hussein, this would not have happened.

    God, forgive us for being ignorant on that matter.

    At this point, we should stop our government from funding the ISIS.
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    « Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 02:28:01 PM »
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    • JPII warned against military action but what exactly did he say?

    I don't remember him saying that the war was all a bunch of lies and I think he pretty much said to trust in the UN and be peaceful.  

    Words matter.  

    Being against all wars all the time will land you in the correct camp quite often because almost all wars are wars of lies for ulterior motives so it's nothing to brag about.  Abortion loving Obama fans could lay claim to the same prize.  

    Can someone post JPII's actual admonitions at the time so we could the man the credit he deserves....

    ...or we could shake our head's and pity the man because he was merely being wishy-washy.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 25, 2014, 02:59:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    JPII warned against military action but what exactly did he say?

    I don't remember him saying that the war was all a bunch of lies and I think he pretty much said to trust in the UN and be peaceful.  

    Words matter.  

    Being against all wars all the time will land you in the correct camp quite often because almost all wars are wars of lies for ulterior motives so it's nothing to brag about.  Abortion loving Obama fans could lay claim to the same prize.  

    Can someone post JPII's actual admonitions at the time so we could the man the credit he deserves....

    ...or we could shake our head's and pity the man because he was merely being wishy-washy.


    Found this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/14/international/europe/14POPE.html

    I remember him being pretty consistent on this.  I disagreed with him at the time.
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