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Offline brogan

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Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
« Reply #90 on: June 18, 2025, 10:20:25 AM »
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  • Honestly, brogan has only been here to ask for money. Before he needed money, he had no use for the forum. What did he think of us "tinfoil hat wearers" and "extremists" back in 2020 when the spicy flu was raging, and he was lining up for the Fauci Ouchie? One member got him to admit he took the jab.

    You do realize all his current health woes (assuming they're real) are almost certainly due to this poor decision. "Nature never forgives."

    But let's say it was just a coincidence he didn't discover CathInfo until he needed money. Even then, you can see he's had several "ups and downs" in terms of financial need since he joined. But how much have we seen him participate in the forum when he's NOT in need, and asking for money? Just look at his post history. It should speak for itself.

    I was raised with Irish culture, which means I don't play games and I'm BS proof. It's obvious brogan only comes here when he needs money. Can we call a spade a spade?

    I'm not making any accusations at this time, aside from
    1. brogan had no need of CathInfo before his recent long string of woes
    2. he continues to have no need for CathInfo unless it's to ask for money

    Is that a crime? Technically no, but I can see how that could be annoying to some -- to say the least. Whether it's IRL or online, most people are annoyed by individuals who only come around when they need money.
    I Posted my music and my son's art on here. I've posted a few other threads on here. But you're right that I mainly do come here when I'm in need. I like the forum, but there's definitely some people on here who act and post very immaturely. But 99% of the forum are saintly people that I strive to be like.

    I am never going to ask for money again For my family or my extended family or anyone else for that matter, but I will continue to post here.

    Offline FarmerWife

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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #91 on: June 18, 2025, 10:21:26 AM »
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  • How many “fundraisers” does this guy have going on?
    I agree with this. I don’t think Brogan is lying but his very first post on his forum was asking for financial help. Usually people built some sort of presence on the forum as it builds trust. People don’t want to feel used. They give money to someone who asks for it and then that person doesn’t show up on the forum until they want money again. 

    I recall a few people asking for financial help or sharing a link and there was not much doubt because they’ve participated on the forum for a while and opened up about themselves that lead people to trust them. 


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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #92 on: June 18, 2025, 10:48:20 AM »
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  • I don’t think Brogan is lying but his very first post on his forum was asking for financial help. Usually people built some sort of presence on the forum as it builds trust. People don’t want to feel used. They give money to someone who asks for it and then that person doesn’t show up on the forum until they want money again.

    I recall a few people asking for financial help or sharing a link and there was not much doubt because they’ve participated on the forum for a while and opened up about themselves that lead people to trust them.
    I agree with all of this (and with Matthew's post as well) but given he gave proof once before that he wasn't lying we shouldn't assume he is lying here.  I remember immediately thinking at the time that it was a scam, but then he provided proof.  I think his request for an apology is certainly reasonable. 

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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #93 on: June 18, 2025, 11:08:25 AM »
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  • Honestly, brogan has only been here to ask for money. ...

    I'm not making any accusations at this time, aside from
    1. brogan had no need of CathInfo before his recent long string of woes
    2. he continues to have no need for CathInfo unless it's to ask for money
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    Best case scenario, he's like an innocent man who appears 100% guilty
    Thank you.  A good summary of my point.

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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #94 on: June 18, 2025, 11:14:28 AM »
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  • The actual scenario may be true (or half true), but he knows people will get on and give money. 








    Offline brogan

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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #95 on: June 18, 2025, 11:22:46 AM »
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  • Thank you.  A good summary of my point.
    How can that be your point when you accused me of fraud? You didn't say that I appeared to be fraudulent. You said I was fraudulent.

    You cannot say that you had the same point as Matthew. There was nothing offensive about Matthew's post, but you accused me of a crime baselessly and refused to apologize for it. That is much different than Matthews post.

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    « Reply #96 on: June 18, 2025, 11:50:58 AM »
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  • How can that be your point when you accused me of fraud?
    I did not accuse YOU of fraud; I accused your username.

    I did not slander YOU, only your anonymous username, which I know nothing about.

    The internet is not real life.  A username represents a person (or it could represent a bot, or even multiple people).  

    There is no way to "prove" anything (or anyone) on the internet.  I'm sorry, that's reality.  Grow up and stop being naive.

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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #97 on: June 18, 2025, 11:59:59 AM »
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  • I did not accuse YOU of fraud; I accused your username.

    I did not slander YOU, only your anonymous username, which I know nothing about.

    The internet is not real life.  A username represents a person (or it could represent a bot, or even multiple people). 

    There is no way to "prove" anything (or anyone) on the internet.  I'm sorry, that's reality.  Grow up and stop being naive.


    Stop with the $ requests, man.  You’re a scam artist.  You’re not going to get to heaven lying to people for $.  You better change your life. 

    Can you explain this? 






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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #98 on: June 18, 2025, 12:04:33 PM »
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  • Can you explain this?
    Scam does not mean the same thing as fraud. 

    Not legally, anyway. 

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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #99 on: June 18, 2025, 12:05:07 PM »
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  • I did not accuse YOU of fraud; I accused your username.

    I did not slander YOU, only your anonymous username, which I know nothing about.

    The internet is not real life.  A username represents a person (or it could represent a bot, or even multiple people). 

    There is no way to "prove" anything (or anyone) on the internet.  I'm sorry, that's reality.  Grow up and stop being naive.

    Great distinction.  We don't know if the user is even who he might claim to be.  For all we know it's a completely fictional character.  That does not impugn the veracity of any specific individual.  IF the CI user is not the person that's claimed, the you you're not questioning the integrity of the person, but of whoever might be impersonating that individual.

    If a person who knows me well questioned my integrity, that's different than sineon who really doesn't know me or who I am. Even if they could verify my identity ... they still know nothing of my character and I wouldn't blame anyone for being suspicious.

    People really have to stop being snowflakes and to be offended by things that are clearly not personal.  If they do not know you personally then you cannot take anything they say about your online account personally.

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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #100 on: June 18, 2025, 12:05:14 PM »
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  • Right.


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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #101 on: June 18, 2025, 12:40:40 PM »
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  • I did not accuse YOU of fraud; I accused your username.

    I did not slander YOU, only your anonymous username, which I know nothing about.

    The internet is not real life.  A username represents a person (or it could represent a bot, or even multiple people). 

    There is no way to "prove" anything (or anyone) on the internet.  I'm sorry, that's reality.  Grow up and stop being naive.
    Oh, OK. I get it. You're not "blessing the couple" you're blessing the "individuals of the couple." OK, I understand now. Actually, you seem like you could use a spontaneous blessing. Better call James Martin.

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    Re: We are desperate. Please help us.
    « Reply #102 on: June 18, 2025, 12:47:06 PM »
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  • Oh, OK. I get it. You're not "blessing the couple" you're blessing the "individuals of the couple." OK, I understand now. Actually, you seem like you could use a spontaneous blessing. Better call James Martin.

    No, that's not it, and you clear don't "get it". ... so you mocking him in derision because you don't understand what he's saying.  He's right.  Stop being such a snowflake.  For all most people on this forum know, this individual you claim to be does not even exist.  Someone could easily do that.  I could use AI to generate some fake pictures, adopt the persona of someone that does not exist ... or even of someone who does exist (but I'm not them but engaging in identity theft), create an appeal for funds from people who might be inclined to help, and then sit back to watch the money flow in.

    It might help your case if you came on the forum here to exchange posts with people on other topics or subjects besides asking for money.  If some long-established member here vouched for your existence and integrity, people would accept that.  If Matthew or some other well-established poster said, "I know this individual, and he's a solid man of integrity." ... we would all accept that assessment.  So, for instance, I know poster ElwinRansom personally ... while I'm convinced that very few others here do.  But if I told them that he's a solid lifelong Catholic, former STAS seminarian, a man of integrity (who would not scam anyone), etc. ... I'm sure people would accept that.  Lots of people don't care for me, but I think they would accept my assessment on such a manner.

    In fact, if I came on here telling my story and asking for money, I've been here for close to 15 years now, making tons of posts, and I people might call me a lot of things, but not a liar or thief (knowing that it's a mortal sin to lie and steal like that) ... people would believe me (even if they don't like me).

    But without any kind of independent verification, you can't blame people for being skeptical.  Even if the existence of someone by your real name could be verified, how do we know it's actually that person posting here?  You really can't.

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    « Reply #103 on: June 18, 2025, 12:51:33 PM »
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  • No, that's not it, and you clear don't "get it". ... so you mocking him in derision because you don't understand what he's saying.  He's right.  Stop being such a snowflake.  For all most people on this forum know, this individual you claim to be does not even exist.  Someone could easily do that.  I could use AI to generate some fake pictures, adopt the persona of someone that does not exist ... or even of someone who does exist (but I'm not them but engaging in identity theft), create an appeal for funds from people who might be inclined to help, and then sit back to watch the money flow in.
    It is not currently possible to make pictures look that real and like the same person in multiple pictures like the pictures that I posted. AI in 2025 is still recognizable as AI and the pictures I posted are not AI and do not look AI. I agree that it would be possible to fake medical records, but I didn't do that.
    Also, if you look at the gofundme it says that my ID is verified and what that means is that they have had me upload a copy of my drivers license and verified my name and also that that's the name on the bank account. So James Cowan absolutely exists and he is the one receiving these funds. Maybe just maybe he's the one posting under the name Brogan also.

    Only somebody named James Cowan can get the funds. So you're claiming that maybe I could be pretending to be James Cowan and then having all the money go to someone named James Cowan as a scam? That is a laughable clownish conspiracy theory. But you haven't thought this through at all.

    Why are you even posting this nonsense that you haven't even thought through? I would bet that you never donated anything so why do you even care about this? What's wrong with you?

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    « Reply #104 on: June 18, 2025, 12:57:57 PM »
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  • It is not currently possible to make pictures look real and like the same people in multiple pictures like the pictures that I posted. I agree that it would be possible to fake medical records, but I didn't do that.
    Also, if you look at the go follow me, it says that my ID is verified and what that means is that they have had me upload a copy of my drivers license and verified my name and also that that's the name on the bank account. So James Cowan absolutely exists and he is the one receiving these funds. Maybe just maybe he's the one posting under the name Brogan also.

    Only somebody named James Cowan can get the funds. So you're claiming that maybe I could be pretending to be James Cowan and then giving it to someone named James Cowan as a scam? That is a clownish conspiracy theory. But you haven't thought this through at all.

    Well, I disagree.  I think think there's plenty of AI stuff out there that COULD do that.  So, again, nobody's positively affirming that you DID do anything of the sort ... just that some unknown individual COULD do all these things.  So you need to stop taking this personally.  Identity theft is a very common problem, and lots of people get scammed by various fund-raising appeals, so it's not something entirely impossible.

    So now you're gaslighting people claiming that if we don't believe you it's a "clownish conspiracy theory".  So the more you double-down and gaslight people for not taking stuff you typed here as absolute truth, the more you get them suspicious of you ... since that would be what a scammer would do, gaslight people who didn't buy their scam.

    If you had adopted more an attitude of humility along the lines of, "I get it.  You don't know me from Adam, and I understand if you don't want to send me anything as a result of the uncertainty.  But perhaps I could, oh, tell you the name of this [Traditional or other] priest I know that you all know, and you can find his phone number, e.g. call this priory here, and he could verify who I am."  That would be much more effective, rather than gaslighting people who have some reservations as engaging in "clownish conspiracy theory".

    In fact, if I were to go on some forum that I had never posted on and where nobody knew me ... if I posted an appeal, I'd fully expect 99.9% of them to be skeptical and in fact would marvel at anyone who would not be skeptical of me, as being extremely gullible and naive."  There are thousands of people who get scammed every day by various often-sophisticated techniques, where there could be multiple layers of misdirection.

    But so long as you think that any questions or reservations along those line are personal attacks and then gaslight people who might have some reluctance due to this uncertainty ... you're only hurting your case.