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Offline bodeens

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Re: Was Silver a Mistake?
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2022, 05:40:57 PM »
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    • The delta between physical and paper/fake silver says it is not a mistake at all and this decoupling was one of the more alarming things in the last few years. I hope no one here has paper/fake silver.
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    Re: Was Silver a Mistake?
    « Reply #16 on: January 05, 2022, 05:50:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 05, 2022, 08:46:53 AM

    Basically, I’m starting to reconsider whether silver is a prudent prepay all.  Perhaps money is better spent on beans, bullets, and bugout land.
    Whenever any disaster or emergency happens, one of the first things that needs to happen is finding someone that is calm, level-headed, knowledgeable, capable and able to take charge of the situation and be the leader. (Yes cholerics or sanguine/cholerics, I am talking to you as first up to the plate).

    It will not matter what kind of stocks or bonds, or silver or gold, or bullets, or what-not you have if you don't have a good and capable leader. It may be a man, or a woman, depending on many things and factors. ***Every married man's wife should know how to lead.***They should be able to lead their own family at least, and to be able to assist with helping other mothers with children, elderly neighbours, etc., but they should also be able to RATIONALLY and CALMLY be able to direct others, reduce fear, and get the job done.

    They cannot be afraid of "getting their feewings hurt," (sarc).

    That leader had better be able to triage and assess the situation in a heartbeat IF you want to survive, or increase your odds of doing so. One of the first things you do in any emergency is always scene assessment. If there are downed power lines and you all go rushing into to pick up a kid, it could end up making things worse.

    Your money would be better spent as time and energy expended in getting fit if you are the father of a family, and getting all your family fit enough (or farm fit) to deal with things like sandbagging, carrying each other/dragging each other across the yard, etc. Practice drills with them, and take turns doing piggy backs and see how far they go before they tire out, etc.

    When it comes right down to it, if a person is not an asset, they are a liability, period. So you need to find a way to reduce your liabilities and assets. When SHTF, the ones that will end up in trouble first will be the ones that cannot run, walk, or otherwise be self-mobile, because they are bed-bound, in a wheelchair, have dementia, etc. There needs to be an evacuation plan or strategy in place for the order of evacuation and assisting persons, whether it is at your own home or elsewhere. You will have to decide if charity begins and stays at home, or how much you are willing to sacrifice to help others outside your immediate home. If you are the father of a family, your first justice is owed to your family, of course, but as Catholics, we are also bound to help others.

    ****If a man is not physically fit, he is in the liability category until he is fit.**** He needs to be able to pick-up and carry his pregnant wife, or 2 or 3 of his kids at once and carry them to safety, that kind of thing. Older kids need to be able to help the younger ones, and so on. But Dad has to figure out a plan for his family for the immediate scene. Otherwise nothing else will matter and no amount of guns or bullets will do any good either. 

    Your team is only as strong as the weakest member on it. Think shows like "Survivor." Not advocating the show, per se, but the IDEA behind it. Practice different scenarios or take your kids and older girls if you have them to do things like swing baseball bats in batting cages, rope climbing, going through tunnels and "scary places." Screaming kids, squealers and yellers will not only waste precious time, but will give away your position if you are in winter and sounds carry for miles and miles.

    And if a man is over 50 and not fit, then he has to add in the extra issues and challenges that come with ageing (reduced stamina, etc.) He needs to ask himself utterly brutal and realistic questions like, "How many flights of stairs could I make it running, walking, or dragging my wife/mother/daughter if I had to?" "When will we decide who gets left behind? Will I tell my family to flee, or do we all die together?" That kind of thing. "What happens when I am injured? Can my wife actually take over in the moment, or will she fall to pieces and we all die?"

    A calm and honest mind will be like gold. A frazzled and fearful anxious mind will be like a lead balloon. Self-control is the secret weapon. Cheers, Anne.
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    Re: Was Silver a Mistake?
    « Reply #17 on: January 05, 2022, 11:44:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on January 05, 2022, 05:23:36 PM
    It was an example, there are problems with anything valuable, like say one's wallet. One just has to learn how to deal with whatever the problem is. Besides I was talking about extra money, and how it is better in an inflationary environment to have it in say bullets or perfume (if that is what someone knows) than in paper money. One does not have to be concerned with inflation on their paper money, if they have instead hard assets, like bullets and perfume (or if you owe $100,000 on your house mortgage )

    Lad put is most succinctly: "…nobody's going to give up anything of real value for some metal" [or paper].
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    Re: Was Silver a Mistake?
    « Reply #18 on: January 06, 2022, 12:19:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anne Evergreen on January 05, 2022, 05:50:55 PM
    Whenever any disaster or emergency happens, one of the first things that needs to happen is finding someone that is calm, level-headed, knowledgeable, capable and able to take charge of the situation and be the leader. …[lots of good stuff snipped only for brevity]… A calm and honest mind will be like gold. A frazzled and fearful anxious mind will be like a lead balloon. Self-control is the secret weapon. Cheers, Anne.

    That was quite succinct in covering such important points. In toto, your post triggered [pun intended] a few aphorisms.

    "The mind is the weapon, not the gun."

    "Beware the man with one gun; he knows how to use it."

    There is also "the lucky shot" phenomenon. An anecdote: Way back in the 20th century there was an annual international shooting competition held in Las Vegas limited to about 300 competitors. The night before the match there was always a shooters' meeting at which the rules and safety procedure were laid out in no uncertain terms. Afterwards we all went our ways. In the morning one of the shooters did not show. Later we found out that, after the shooters' meeting, he went downtown, got in beef over a hooker, and got shot dead by a pimp. Even the worst shooter at the match was more proficient than any 10,000 typical cops (seriously, even the SWAT guys didn't usually place as well as you'd expect for guys who get free ammo and plenty of paid time to practice—except the Dept of Energy's SWAT guys, the ones who guard nuclear reactors and weapons. Delta and HRT never competed as a team as far as I know) and that very proficient guy got himself permanently plugged and planted by the proverbial "lucky shot" of some clown.

    "Never under-estimate ‘the other guy.'"

    There are some folks here that I dearly wish were my neighbors. Sadly, one of my friends here recently returned to MN. Oh well. MN's gain.

    Back to "the mind," I have been impressed by the analytics of this group: https://forwardobserver.com/
    I recommend their Early Warning Report.  They'll email you a sample if you are interested.
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    Re: Was Silver a Mistake?
    « Reply #19 on: January 06, 2022, 08:08:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on January 05, 2022, 02:17:20 PM

    We just bought a new dishwasher to replace one we bought in 2017 that just died. Same dishwasher, about 50% higher sticker price. Amazing.
    Only 4.5 to 5 years old. What brand and model? (So I know to avoid that junk in the future)
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    Re: Was Silver a Mistake?
    « Reply #20 on: January 06, 2022, 05:48:37 PM »
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    • Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants and debt is the money of slaves.
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