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The Myth of a 300 Mile Radius and the Golden Horde
« on: September 04, 2016, 11:50:22 PM »
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  • Prepper Relocation Part II: The Myth of a 300 Mile Radius and the Golden Horde
    http://www.lastminutesurvival.com/2016/09/02/prepper-relocation-part-ii-the-myth-of-a-300-mile-radius-and-the-golden-horde/

    I think it is better to be in a small (Catholic) community where all the skill sets are well-represented than to be isolated and "self-sufficient."


    In part one of our series on “Prepper Relocation,” I directly addressed a common false logic amongst preppers that led to bad conclusions regarding why one should relocate to Idaho.  Specifically, I challenged the idea that a bunker was a viable long term survival strategy for a major catastrophe many prep for such as nuclear war.  Simply establishing a second residence in a modern first world location like Santiago, Singapore, or New Zealand offer far better options for survival, both physically and economically, than hiding in a hole while a nuclear war is carried out above you.  Today, I continue the slaughter of the sacred cows and challenge the merits of relocating to a site far from other people.  As I previously discussed, relocation isn’t a subject to take lightly.  It may be the single most important decision a prepper makes and therefore any plan should be heavily vetted before time and money is invested in executing it.  Therefore, one must consider counter arguments to contemporary “expert” recommendations.  By leveraging the information in this series, you will be far better prepared to develop a personalized answer to what truly is you “best prepper place to relocate.”

    Contemporary prepper logic states that the farther your relocation site is from dense centers of population, the better.  In fact, the magic number often touted is that you must be at least 300 miles from any major population center.  However, is this really the case?  This is very important because if 300 miles is accurate, it severely constrains your relocation options.  If it is not a valid constraint, then suddenly you have many good options for relocation depending on the specific scenario you are prepping for.  As such, let’s examine what that conclusion is premised upon.  Breaking the theory down, you have two main hypotheses to vet.  The first is that 300 miles provides a necessary and adequate buffer from an urban center.  The second is that from said urban area a horde of starving refugees will emerge and overrun your redoubt.

    Let me be the first to tell you neither hypothesis constituting this prepper theory, which to date has been held up as prepper law, is valid.  To begin, the 300 mile metric is nearly useless.  Sure it is a good general metric for how far someone can drive on a tank of gas, but that is about as far as its utility can be stretched.  Far more complex mechanisms are at work.  For example, it assumes no one left before the crisis climaxed, no one thought to bring along extra fuel, no one stopped to get gas, and none of the millions of people living outside of the urban center decided to pick up and leave too.  It also discounts the fact people generally will go to a place they know.  Most people will not just wander aimlessly like Moses through the Sinai.  They will go to the homes of family and friends.  This means most rural places irrespective of where they are located tend to remain that way.  The hypothetical notion of a wave of people just wandering the countryside like zombies consuming all in their path like a swarm of locusts is utterly ridiculous when actually researched.  Even today, you can see refugees follow logical routes to known points where they can obtain help.  The middle of nowhere West Virginia will not be any higher on that short list of places for refugees to go than middle of nowhere Idaho when you have plenty of other cities, FEMA distribution points, and military bases that people will go to first.  All this said, I am not discounting the benefits of being out of the middle of a major city and self-sufficient during a crisis, I am just saying you don’t need to move all the way to Idaho to obtain those benefits.

    The second major fallacy this theory is predicated upon is that people are your enemy and if you have anything resembling neighbors within a day’s drive of your property, they are a threat.  What I find when analyzing this is that we have a huge body of contemporary case studies that debunk this theory.  What you find is that people by nature are creatures of habit.  This means even after a major collapse, most people are biased to continue to try and maintain their same habits.  We saw this post collapse in the Soviet Union when people still went to work even though they weren’t being paid because that is what they always did.  We also saw this in areas of the US where industry and jobs left 30 years ago or more.  People are still living in these cities and towns in total poverty waiting for the good times to come back even though the jobs are gone for good and if they moved even a half tank of gas away, they could have found new work.  Another example is with guns.  Most people are good and good people generally stay good law abiding people irrespective of a gun placed in their hand.  Criminals will stay criminals, but can and always have been dealt with by the majority of good people.

    Some would immediately argue the examples given are not extreme enough to be comparable.  Therefore, let’s examine the worst cases of war, famine, economic collapse, and total destruction.  What we find is that just like in the previous examples, people are still reluctant to leave and don’t turn on each other in any systemic widespread fashion.   This is repeatedly demonstrated in places totally destroyed by wars such as Afghanistan and Iraq.  In both warzones, most people remained in their cities and towns irrespective of the violence.  Granted, it wasn’t advisable to stay and they would have been far better off if they had bugged out, but they stayed.  The urban populations did not venture into the surrounding rural areas in mass destroying all in their wake as the 300 mile theory would predict.  Look at what it took for refugees to leave Syria.  They literally had to be facing imminent death after the total loss of their homes and families before they began the trek away from their homes.  However, they didn’t stray aimlessly.  The refugees followed very predictable routes to safe havens they knew would offer aid.  Further, although we can debate the merits of their culture and religion, the vast majority still maintained their moral and ethical standards just as they did in Syria (for better or worse).

    The actions of the people are no different when studying how people reacted to utter poverty and famine in places such as Ethiopia, Somalia, and Niger.  Although tribal warlords and criminal violence are common, there still is no precedent being set for mass migrations out of the cities.  In fact, it appears people actually came to the cities in many situations because they viewed their options better than trying to survive away from others on their own.  This is noteworthy because it appears that in these situations, people that were isolated, were actually more, not less, vulnerable.  This was reinforced by what was seen in war zones where lone individuals and small villages were far more vulnerable to insurgent actions of groups like the Taliban.

    Economic collapses are occurring all over the world in places like Venezuela, but again, there is nothing to suggest that the lack of food and starvation is causing a mass exodus from Venezuela’s major cities and the surrounding burbs are being ransacked.  Instead, people mobbed grocery stores and supply depots within the cities and flooded border crossings where food could be purchased a short distance into Colombia.  The hinterlands even a short distance out of the major cities remain undisturbed.  Domestically, we saw the same thing during the Great Depression and post-World War I in Weimar Germany.  Again, people were starving, but did not wipe out the surrounding suburbs.  Instead, like already witnessed in the previous examples, people actually went to the cities for support.

    The evidence at this point should be overwhelming to anyone other than the brain dead and hopelessly brainwashed.  Nonetheless, let’s look at more examples.  During massive large scale natural disasters around the world guess what we witness?  Coming as no surprise now, we see that people do not suddenly wander about aimlessly looting and killing.  Instead, people are drawn closer together in mutual support.  People quickly move to organize and rebuild, not descend into a primal state of anarchy, which serves no survival purpose for the species as a whole.  Arguably humans are designed to form into mutually supportive groups, which have always been necessary for human survival.  For example, the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami was truly cataclysmic, wiped out entire coastal villages, and killed over 240,000 people yet no mass exodus occurred from urban areas.  The earthquake and tsunami that destroyed the Fukushima Nuclear Plant in Japan also erased entire villages and continues to irradiate a growing area and threatens Tokyo directly.  Tokyo is one of the world’s largest cities and the people are living within a very short distance of a nuclear disaster still in meltdown that could catastrophically deteriorate at any time, but again, no hordes or exodus of people have ran for the mountains.  In New Orleans after Katrina and in Haiti after their most recent major earthquake people were so tied to habit that many literally sat and waited for help until they died instead of becoming a refugee and overrunning the suburbs.  Even looking back to the worst days of World War II and the American cινιℓ ωαr one can’t find large scale accounts of the hordes leaving the cities and wiping out the surrounding areas even after massive destruction like the burning of Savannah or the firebombing of Dresden.  In fact, after conducting in-depth case studies, the only place that this Hobbesian world of anarchy exists is in the imagination of James Rawles and the heads of people fueled by Hollywood doomsday movies.

    So what are the lessons to be learned?  The key takeaways today are that the relocation rule of 300 miles from any urban center and that a wave of refugees will overrun your redoubt are myths.  As important, it is critical to understand that the research I have been conducting completely changes the most fundamentally held theories adhered to by preppers today.  Up until now, if you were going to survive most catastrophic events, it was believed you would have to move to a small pocket of land in the North West.  What I am demonstrating through a mix of case studies and large-N analyses of global crises is that you have far more options than previously believed.  You don’t need to leave your job, family, and community behind to effectively prepare for most scenarios.  Further, you do not need to move to the far reaches of the earth or to Idaho to gain the benefits of being outside the immediate dangers of the mob.  In fact, there appears to be a point where being too isolated becomes detrimental and actually counterproductive to your survival in most crisis scenarios.  It also appears that rather than running from the cities, the mass migration during a crisis is actually too the cities.  These game changing conclusions are just the beginning.  Look for part three in the coming days where even more deeply held prepper theories are debunked when actually analyzed.

    By Guiles Hendrik

    September 2, 2016



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    The Myth of a 300 Mile Radius and the Golden Horde
    « Reply #1 on: September 05, 2016, 12:12:53 AM »
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  • Part 1

    Prepper Relocation Part I: Questioning the Common Logic
    http://www.lastminutesurvival.com/2016/09/01/prepper-relocation-part-i-questioning-the-common-logic/

    I routinely read articles online where individuals pontificate about where the best places for preppers to live or relocate too are.  What I don’t usually see is any real cognitive effort to do a realistic analysis and assessment. This should be a red flag.  Selecting your relocation site is one of the most important decisions a prepper must make.  It is too important to be made on hearsay and opinions.  Therefore, I am going to question that contemporary prepper relocation logic.  I am going to debunk common myths and offer better alternatives that will help you develop a personalized answer to what truly is you “best prepper place to relocate.”  When this series is complete, you will be armed with critical information necessary for identifying your ideal relocation spot.  Don’t be surprised if after this eye opening series your philosophy on how you previously evaluated and envisioned your relocation site looks completely different.

    Most preparedness “experts” would define the common prepper relocation logic is to find a place as far as possible from other people in an area still suitable for an off-grid, self-sustaining lifestyle.  This implies the location has ample water, good soil, and a good growing season.  Add a couple wild card factors like being outside the blast radius and fallout pattern of a nuclear detonation and avoiding known earthquake prone areas and most preppers conclude that Idaho is the choice destination.  James Wesley Rawles, a man well known and respected throughout the prepper community and a recognized expert on the field is a big advocate of this relocation option.  In Rawles’ defense, Idaho may indeed be a good location for some preppers for some reasons.  However, Rawles and many others are basing many of their primary assumptions on outdated information, obsolete tactics and techniques, and generally old school logic that when tested in real world scenarios, fails.  I don’t take this indictment lightly.  If we get this wrong, we die and that is why it is so important we first question some of the fundamental assumptions the conventional prepper relocation plan is based upon.

    You must first identify what you are prepping for to begin the site selection process.  Every “prepper” has their own opinion on what an ideal bugout location should be like and that is perfectly fine.  I also agree that wherever you are located, you should try to be as self-sufficient as possible.  Nevertheless, no two people have the exact same set of life factors and personal circuмstances to deal with so everyone must design their plans to fit their unique needs.  However, if you are “prepping,” you should have some idea what contingency or crises you intend to mitigate.  To say you want to be prepared for anything is nice, but in truth it isn’t the most realistic goal.  Traditional preps are very good for dealing with limited or short term catastrophes, but if you are prepping for a major long term collapse or wide spread disaster, you need to get serious about your planning.  Anyone that is more or less self-sufficient will be far more resilient and better off during a crisis, but that does not equate to survival over the long term.  To be more specific, even simple well-tailored preparedness plans often fail miserably due to group think and false assumptions.  Therefore, you really need to identify what catastrophe you are prepping for and what your idea of “survival” really means.

    To illustrate the fact people often fail to adequately prepare for even a single specific event, let’s look at a basic prepper scenario for surviving a nuclear war.  If you are prepping to survive a full scale nuclear war, most self-proclaimed “experts” recommend relocating to Idaho.  This is perfectly fine if you are preparing for a small, isolated, nuclear event in a major city.  However, a realistic and unbiased assessment would conclude you are nuts and poorly prepared to survive a full scale nuclear war scenario whether in Idaho or not.  Modern nuclear weapons launched from space platforms and undersea delivery vehicles like attack subs provide almost no warning or reaction time.  Further, our primary nation state threats have enough warheads now to not only destroy all of our major cities multiple times over, but also plenty of extras to eliminate all of our small and medium sized cities.  Idaho was only a viable option if one relied on the assumptions made 30 years ago based on maps developed by the US military on guesses of how they believed a Soviet nuclear strike would unfold.  To say these targeting assumptions and estimated fall out zones were imprecise would be an understatement.  These Cold War estimates are outdated and not accurate.  Nor have they been updated for the wide range of contingencies such as a joint Chinese-Russian-North Korean attack, bombers that drop their payload prematurely, or errant missile strikes.  They do not take into account the pinpoint accuracy of modern missiles, missile warheads carrying large numbers of independently targeted reentry vehicles, cruise missiles, improved blast yields, the number of hostile nations possessing viable nuclear threats, or the total number of weapons now available.  The entire war could be over in minutes.  Think about this for a second.  Before you finished your commute home, a short run, or TV sitcom, our entire nation could be obliterated.  The bottom line is if Doomsday occurs, you aren’t escaping the blasts and fallout if you are in the US.

    Let’s take this one step further because right now there are many of you thinking I am stupid because you will just button up in your underground bunker and survive.  Okay, so even if we assume you were lucky enough to be living in your remote underground bunker at the precise time of the attack, what kind of existence is it living in an underground box for years?  What does “survival” look like once you surface to a radioactive wasteland?  Further, this plan, when evaluated for critical failure points and their likelihood of occurring, is very high risk.  Stated differently, what are the odds something doesn’t go wrong?  Air filtration systems failing, running out of fuel, disease, injuries, attacks, and a host of other contingencies are all not just possible, but very likely.  Also one must consider how much money it costs to develop a truly functional nuclear blast shelter that could weather doomsday and sustain you till radiation levels dropped to survivable levels?  Shelters may make good sense for short term plans, but lose significant value if relied upon over the long term.  When compared to what you pay, what you are getting is really not that desirable.  I argue that in this case, the run and hide in Idaho strategy is completely flawed.  There are far smarter options than pretending you are a groundhog for a year that really do offer good chances of survival and quality living.

    As you read on throughout this series, what you will see is that what Rawles and others are preaching is quite dangerous and inaccurate for many scenarios people are actually prepping for.  In the event of a full nuclear war today, you would realistically need to vacate the entire Northern Hemisphere long before the attack ever began if you want to survive it.  The radiation would blanket everything from Alaska to Miami.  I understand we love our country and we intuitively want to literally dig in and defend our homeland, but ask yourself a few questions.  If you really believe our country is going to be nuked, what will be left that is worth inhabiting assuming you survive?  If you and your family are incinerated in the blast, how did that help defend the US?  How is it that if you believe a nuclear war is coming that you think keeping your family here is a good plan?  How well could you really resist and fight back against an invasion if you are preoccupied with not dying from radiation poisoning or starvation?  Instead of spending tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars on elaborate preps, would it not make more sense to use that money on a real plan?  The lesson here is not to artificially limit your search area for a proper relocation site.  You must open your mind to relocation possibilities far beyond just the borders of the US.

    Consider this alternative for a moment.  Instead of wasting the money buying a bunker you may never use or die in, use that money to establish a second residency in a country in South America.  You would be so far from the blasts and fallout you wouldn’t need a bunker.  Having that second residence would allow you to offshore a portion of your money and other assets.  This would insulate you from much of the economic chaos and capital losses that would wreck the US even if it did survive a nuclear war.  Using that money, you could actually live quite well and be very prosperous for far less than the cost of building a fortified nuclear shelter in Idaho.  The logic behind this strategy is simple and sound.  You survive a nuclear war by not being in the middle of one.  You don’t roll the dice and suffer, you avoid it entirely.  This strategy is very similar to the logic that the best way to survive getting shot is to not get shot or to survive a car accident by not being in the car when it wrecks.  No one is threatening Uruguay with nuclear annihilation right now.  In fact, no one is threatening any country in Central or South America with a nuclear war right now.  Further, if you are like most people, you don’t live in Idaho and would have to travel hundreds if not thousands of miles to get there.  In the event of an impending crisis, the only way you would get there with any real reliable hope would be to fly.  If you are going to need to fly to get there, why not fly to a place that offers real sanctuary?  Why suffer when you can not only live, but live very well?  Drop the dated prepper group think and open your mind to a better set of survival options.

    I hope after reading this short article you have already started to reevaluate your preps.  Over the course of my upcoming posts, I am going to challenge conventional prepper thinking repeatedly.  These articles, like my previous articles detailing the need for preppers to organize and live in groups vice isolated and independent of people (see: http://www.lastminutesurvival.com/2013/12/02/overcoming-the-greatest-prepper-weakness-the-individual-versus-the-community-and-a-plan-for-the-future/) will continue to rewrite how we effectively prepare.  I invite each and every one of you to not only read, but discuss, debate, post, blog, and vet my points.  We need fresh thinking.  At the end of the series, you will all be better prepared to answer for yourself where the best relocation site is.

     

    By Guiles Hendrik

    September 1, 2016


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  • The best place to be is with a traditional Catholic priest and community. Access to confession and communion is far more valuable that gold or horded food.

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    « Reply #3 on: September 05, 2016, 09:30:52 AM »
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  • Quote from: nctradcath
    The best place to be is with a traditional Catholic priest and community. Access to confession and communion is far more valuable that gold or horded food.


    Agreed.

    That said, fathers have the duty of feeding, protecting, and raising their children.

    If a father has a choice, why would he do that swimming upstream against the raging torrent of sewage in urban America?


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  • Great posts, Mark.  Interesting stuff.


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    « Reply #5 on: September 06, 2016, 12:33:28 PM »
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