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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 11:39:08 PM »
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  • Anyone who thinks martial arts is a waste of time, needs to know, that
    criminals can tell by the way you walk if you are a good "victim" for them
    or not.

    If you have had martial arts training, and you completed the course, you
    will have that look about you that makes you "off limits" to an observer,
    because they will see by your movement and posture that to attack you
    could very well be the last thing they will ever do in life.  

    Even if you are walking alone.



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    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 11:46:57 PM »
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    Anyone who thinks martial arts is a waste of time, needs to know, that
    criminals can tell by the way you walk if you are a good "victim" for them
    or not.

    If you have had martial arts training, and you completed the course, you
    will have that look about you that makes you "off limits" to an observer,
    because they will see by your movement and posture that to attack you
    could very well be the last thing they will ever do in life.  

    Even if you are walking alone.


    I think the belief that martial arts allows women to project strength is delusional.

    Women should try to avoid walking alone.  That makes more sense.


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    « Reply #3 on: December 06, 2012, 12:46:22 AM »
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    I think the belief that martial arts allows women to project strength is delusional.

    Women should try to avoid walking alone.  That makes more sense.




    Well, you're entitled to your opinion, certainly.  And yes, it makes a lot more
    sense for them to avoid walking alone.  I have been honored many times
    when a woman has asked me to walk her to her car or wherever.  Men
    should always oblige such a request, it is our duty as gentlemen, and do
    not chide them or act as if it is frivolous.  Be upright and proud that you
    have been given the honor.  In fact, we should look for the opportunity to
    do this and offer our service when the way is desolate or there have been
    incidents of crime recently.  When the "big crash" happens, you would
    likely forbid your wife or daughter to walk alone, anywhere.

    At the same time, of all the women I've ever known who have studied
    the martial arts, not one of them has ever been attacked, but for two.  
    Nor do they know of anyone like them who has, although there are two
    exceptions, and in both cases, the attacker was overcome, one of them
    died due to mortal injuries at the bare hands of the woman.  She was
    Korean.  And Korean martial arts take no prisoners.  

    Fr. Pheiffer says in his most recent sermon that in the days of Elias, a
    woman said that she knew he was a prophet by the way he walked past
    her house every day.  She had never known him, spoken to him, nor heard
    what he had said or written, but she knew he was a prophet because of
    the manner of his movement and posture alone, as he walked.  He says
    that the priest is a man of God, and he exudes Godliness in his very way
    of walking.  Now, if a woman who has studied how to defend herself
    with her own hands projects no image of strength by her appearance,
    then how can what Fr. Pheiffer say about priests and/or prophets be true?



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    « Reply #4 on: December 06, 2012, 12:53:06 AM »
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  • I think there is something perverse in teaching women to practice "killing" men.

    And while you may have some anecdotal evidence that attackers will be overcome, to be honest, I really don't think "martial arts" are an effective option for self-defense.

    This woman knocked to the ground by that freak never had a chance.


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    « Reply #5 on: December 06, 2012, 01:44:24 AM »
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    I think there is something perverse in teaching women to practice "killing" men.

    And while you may have some anecdotal evidence that attackers will be overcome, to be honest, I really don't think "martial arts" are an effective option for self-defense.

    This woman knocked to the ground by that freak never had a chance.


    Okay, it looks from the video like she never had a chance, however, if
    she had been turning to look behind her that would not be the case.  
    Whenever a woman, or a man for that matter, walks down the street,
    he or she should give some occasional turn of the head so as to at least
    give an observer the impression that he is paying attention to his
    immediate environment.  Otherwise one makes one's self a victim.

    The attacker was watching her as he approached, and one turn of her
    head would have stopped him in his tracks.  Doubt it not.

    And a most severe sentence of hard labor would be quite appropriate
    for him.  He is obviously a serious threat to society, and his life should be
    at minimum curtailed to have no freedom to ever do such a thing again.

    We have no audio, so we don't know if the man running up behind her was
    making any noise, or if there was ambient traffic or other noise.  But it
    does appear that she was walking without any attention to her
    surroundings.  That is not something she would be doing if she had had
    training.  

    On the other hand, "walking like a lady" is somewhat inimical to what
    such training evokes in an accomplished student.  If a woman is going to
    walk with a feminine grace it may be a much more challenging thing to be
    at all times prepared for self-defense.  

    You have a valid point that a society where this kind of thing is happening
    is a society that is depraved.  What is a "freak" like that doing on the
    loose? What kind of man would ever do such a thing?  But I must say, if
    that girl had been St. Joan of Arc, I doubt she would have been the one
    falling to the sidewalk.  I doubt it very much.  



                       
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    « Reply #6 on: December 06, 2012, 01:56:41 AM »
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    The attacker was watching her as he approached, and one turn of her
    head would have stopped him in his tracks.  Doubt it not.


    Are you kidding?

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    « Reply #7 on: December 06, 2012, 02:41:17 AM »
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    The attacker was watching her as he approached, and one turn of her
    head would have stopped him in his tracks.  Doubt it not.


    Are you kidding?


    So you think he would have kept coming at her if she'd turned to look at
    him?   And then if he had, would she have done nothing to avert the effect
    of his swinging fist?  Who's kidding whom?  Oh, but she doesn't know the
    first thing about "killing men" so she's not prepared to defend herself, and
    THERFORE she "didn't have a chance,"  correct?


    If you think for a moment he wasn't watching her then you did not
    see the video.  His entire posture, pace, approach and movement
    confirm that he was intently watching her, and I can assure you that
    it was her lack of awareness that he perceived that gave him the
    confidence to continue.  No doubt about it. None whatsoever.
    Ask any security guard who earns $5 an hour.  This is not rocket
    science.
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    « Reply #8 on: December 06, 2012, 07:48:08 AM »
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  • Of course the attacker was black. What a shocker! :rolleyes: In London Blacks or Arabs commit most of the crimes.

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    « Reply #9 on: December 06, 2012, 04:31:57 PM »
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  • Funny:  nowhere on the video and nowhere on this thread was the
    race or color of the assailant mentioned, until your post, TG20.  

    What about the race of the victim?  We don't get much of a look at
    her but she seems to be Hispanic or Mid-eastern, perhaps Indian.  

    I'd like to know if she has now decided that it's time to take some
    lessons in self-defense?  Judo is very popular with women because
    it teaches you mostly how to use your adversary's balance and
    strength to turn it against himself in your favor.  The woman in this
    video, if she had ducked at the key moment, and grabbed his arm,
    she could have made him fall forward to her right side.  But he was
    preparing for such a move by making his stature low to the ground
    as he swung at her, so he was thinking how to deal with her action,
    should she attempt to defend herself.  This was a most deliberate
    and premeditated attack, which should make it much more
    punishable by law, but the English law system is entirely corrupt.

    Don't be surprised if he gets off on this, even if he's "convicted."  



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    « Reply #10 on: December 14, 2012, 03:40:10 AM »
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  • She was a Muslim woman walking in a scuмmy part of London which is why her head is covered.

    I suspect the black guy said something insulting to her a few minutes before she either replied, or gave him a dirty look.  Those sorts of people over have a chip on their shoulder and there is probably a sense by some black people that middle easterners look down on them.

    What happens next is in the video.

    Best way to avoid these attacks is to avoid walking in those scuмmy areas of London.  Even if she'd had a gun, in that particular case it would have done her no good because she was blindsided by the attack.

    If they catch the guy they will jail him and he will then face the wrath of the Muslims who have formed a small clique in whatever jail he is sent to.   He will serve several years at least even under the liberal British justice system and it will be hard time because very few prisoners have much lover for women beaters.


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    « Reply #11 on: December 14, 2012, 03:51:34 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat


    Anyone who thinks martial arts is a waste of time, needs to know, that
    criminals can tell by the way you walk if you are a good "victim" for them
    or not.

    If you have had martial arts training, and you completed the course, you
    will have that look about you that makes you "off limits" to an observer,
    because they will see by your movement and posture that to attack you
    could very well be the last thing they will ever do in life.  

    Even if you are walking alone.





    I had a friend back in the 1980s who was ranked like 3rd in the nation and an 8th degree black belt. Real competitor.

    He lasted 1 day in New Orleans. He was walking on a dark street and someone simply thumped him in the back of the head with a bat and stole his wallet. He woke up in the hospital.