Author Topic: The Chastisement (Read 1718 times)

LoverOfTradition · « **on:** November 11, 2013, 12:25:19 PM »

The Typhoon was clearly the judgment of God and the Chastisement. I'm sure it's even in the Third Secret which is being kept from us.

Didn't Cardinal Bea tell Malachi Martin that they had killed one billion people by not releasing the Third Secret when it was supposed to be released?

It's one thing to read about the Chastisement, but another to actually see it unfolding. God help us. Pray for those poor people. I can't imagine what it must be like over there right now. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that 10,000+ people have been killed.

ggreg · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2013, 04:04:18 AM »

Why couldn't it just be a tropical storm at the thin tale end of the statistical bell curve? They happen all the time when you look at the wider historical picture.

The Boxing Day tsunami in 2004 killed 300,000 people. Thailand and a South East Asia carries on much as it ever did. If God intended it as a lesson it does not appear to have had much effect.

What did Eastern Europe do to deserve the mongol invades, or medieval Europe to deserve the Black Death? Were the residents of Nanking particularly evil?

It's pretty hard to pin down big disasters as specific chastisements. This typhoon was a minnow.

ggreg · « **Reply #2 on:** November 12, 2013, 09:22:26 AM »

Storm expert Brian McNoldy of U. of Miami: ‘We don’t get to pick and choose which storms are enhanced by a warmer climate and which ones aren’t’ — Brian McNoldy, a senior research associate at the University of Miami: ‘While Haiyan was absolutely amazing, it’s not alone. It’s in an elite company of a handful of other tropical cyclones scattered across the decades and across the world.’ — Haiyan ‘was just as subject to this year’s climate as the numerous others that weren’t so impressive. Extremely intense tropical cyclones are rare, but have always been a part of nature — we don’t need to find an excuse for them.’

Philippine Met Service: ‘Some of the reports of wind speeds were exaggerated’

Flashback study shows most frequent typhoons happend in Little Ice Age: ’2004 paleoclimate reconstruction of hurricane landfalls in South-eastern China: ‘Remarkably, the two periods of most frequent typhoon strikes in Guangdong (AD 1660–1680, 1850–1880) coincide with two of the coldest & driest periods in northern & central China during the Little Ice Age’

Meteorologist Joe Bastardi: ‘If you really studied typhoons,then Haiyan is perhaps as big as they come, but you dont shoot your mouth off about it being strongest ever’

Dolores · « **Reply #3 on:** November 12, 2013, 01:59:00 PM »

Unless you have received divine revelation, it's not "clearly" anything other than a naturally-occurring storm. You may have a theory, but it is not as certain as you claim.

Up and until God starts speaking to you in some unambiguous and unequivocal way, I strongly suggest you not attribute what appears to be a naturally-occurring phenomenon to divine intervention.

Indeed, however, we should pray for those affected, and tend to their material needs if we are able.

ggreg · « **Reply #4 on:** November 13, 2013, 12:39:51 AM »

Quote from: LoverOfTradition

The Typhoon was clearly the judgment of God and the Chastisement. I'm sure it's even in the Third Secret which is being kept from us.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that 10,000+ people have been killed.

Philippine President Benigno Aquino says the death toll from Typhoon Haiyan may be lower than first thought.

Speaking to CNN, he said the number of 10,000 killed was "too high" and the figure was more likely up to 2500.

The earlier figure of 10,000 feared killed came from a police officer and local official and may have arisen from the "emotional trauma" of being at the centre of the disaster, Mr Aquino said.

Cuthbert · « **Reply #5 on:** November 13, 2013, 04:10:48 AM »

And there were present, at that very time, some that told Him of the Galileans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. And He answering, said to them: Think you that these Galileans were sinners above all the men of Galilee, because they suffered such things? No, I say to you: but unless you shall do penance, you shall all likewise perish. Or those eighteen upon whom the tower fell in Siloe, and slew them: think you, that they also were debtors above all the men that dwelt in Jerusalem? No, I say to you; but except you do penance, you shall all likewise perish. Gospel according to St. Luke Chapter 13, verses 1 to 5. We should all often contemplate the brevity & uncertain continuance of our natural lives. None of us can know if we have even another second of life, let us all pray for the grace of a happy death. May God have mercy on the poor souls who have just lately entered eternity in such numbers as a result of this terrible natural catastrophe.

poche · « **Reply #6 on:** November 13, 2013, 11:07:51 PM »

two things;
A - Maybe we should think of reforming our own lives. After all some of us deserve a worse chastisement than those people in the Phillipines
B - Let us pray for the people in the Phillipines. The very least we could do for them is to offer them our prayers as they suffer through this ordeal