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Title: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Matthew on September 10, 2018, 07:52:40 PM
September 10th, 2018

Via: Alamogordo Daily News (https://www.alamogordonews.com/story/news/local/2018/09/07/sunspot-observatory-south-cloudcroft-closed-due-security-issue/1227788002/):
The Sunspot Observatory is temporarily closed due to a security issue at the facility that’s located 17 miles south of Cloudcroft in the Sacramento Mountains Friday, an Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy (AURA) spokeswoman Shari Lifson said.
“The Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy who manages the facility is addressing a security issue at this time,” Lifson said. “We have decided to vacate the facility at this time as precautionary measure. It was our decision to evacuate the facility.”
She said she cannot comment on the specifics of the security issue.
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Otero County Sheriff Benny House said the Otero County Sheriff’s Office was asked to standby.
“The FBI is refusing to tell us what’s going on,” House said. “We’ve got people up there (at Sunspot) that requested us to standby while they evacuate it. Nobody would really elaborate on any of the circuмstances as to why. The FBI were up there. What their purpose was nobody will say.”
He said he has a lot of unanswered question about what occurred at Sunspot.
“But for the FBI to get involved that quick and be so secretive about it, there was a lot of stuff going on up there,” House said. “There was a Blackhawk helicopter, a bunch of people around antennas and work crews on towers but nobody would tell us anything.”
The Daily News contacted the Albuquerque FBI spokesman seeking comment for this story, but telephone calls and messages were never returned.
House said he pulled his deputies from the facility after there was no identifiable threat.

“They wanted us up there to help evacuate but nobody would tell us anything,” he said. “We went up there and everything was good. There was no threat. Nobody would identify any specific threat. We hung out for a little while then we left. No reason for us to be there. Nobody would tell us what we’re supposed to be watching out for.”
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 10, 2018, 08:35:23 PM
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Perhaps a flat-earther called in a bomb threat. (For our British friends, that means "a scare.") Flat-earthers really hate observatories AND sunspots, so an observatory NAMED "Sunspot Observatory" would be a super-objectionable entity to flat-earthdom syndromers.
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If it turns out that's what happened, this thread will have to get moved to "The Earth God Made" ghetto!
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 10, 2018, 10:46:57 PM
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Mistake:
The name of the observatory is the National Solar Observatory at Sacramento Peak, and "Sunspot" is the name of the town nearby. If you send mail to the observatory it has a Sunspot address, and the Post Office is right down the road from the observatory.
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Apparently a lot of locals refer to it as "Sunspot Observatory" even though that's a misnomer. 
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There is very little online about this evacuation and no statement from the FBI regarding their involvement. 
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Rumors abound, regarding UFOs, secret ops, drilling noises, mercury leaking (the observatory is said to have tons of mercury on site for specific purposes but mercury has since been deemed an environmental hazzard). But officials are not providing any answers. No one seems to know where the evacuees went and they're not available for comment, for 3 days now. The observatory was closed as well as the Post Office and some nearby residences evacuated, but no reason is being announced. 
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Have you ever heard of an evacuation of a geographical area without any official explanation?
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No source I could find mentioned the fact that tomorrow is the 17th anniversary of 9-11-2001.
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 13, 2018, 08:52:10 AM
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This story is extremely weird.
Entire topic shrouded in mystery.
Close to a week later and still no information.  ???
This is like the murder of Fr. Alfred Joseph Kunz in 1998, only difference is then we knew there was a crime committed.
Here is a new article in the Albuquerque Journal, with the news that there is NO NEWS.
The thing is packed with "NO COMMENT" references.
Evacuees still missing?
No returned phone calls?
No explanation?
What's going on??!??
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https://www.abqjournal.com/1219922/nm-solar-observatory-closed-authorities-mum.html
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(https://d3el53au0d7w62.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/12/1278464-900x1214.jpg)
One of the solar telescopes at Sunspot Observatory in Sunspot, New Mexico. (Nick Pappas/Albuquerque Journal)
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Closure of NM solar observatory a mystery
By Matthew Reisen / Journal Staff Writer (https://www.abqjournal.com/author/mreisen)
Published: Wednesday, September 12th, 2018 at 6:16pm
Updated: Wednesday, September 12th, 2018 at 11:33pm

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The truth is out there – but nobody will go on the record about it.
Rumors are swirling and authorities are tight-lipped following the evacuation of an observatory in southwest New Mexico last week.
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The National Solar Observatory in Sunspot, near Alamogordo, was evacuated last Thursday, along with a nearby post office, and has remained closed since without explanation.
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According to the facility’s website, the observatory and surrounding area are closed until further notice “due to unforeseen circuмstances.”
“The Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy is addressing a security issue … and has decided to temporarily vacate the facility as a precautionary measure,” AURA spokeswoman Shari Lifson said in a statement. “We have no further comment at this time.”
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In the Lincoln National Forest, the observatory has been involved in solar research since 1947. Since the closure, the news has spread nationwide with headlines like “I’m Definitely Not Saying It’s Aliens,” and lighting up internet message boards with fervor and speculation.
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Lifson said AURA is working with the proper authorities, but would not name them.
The closure even caught Otero County Sheriff Benny House by surprise.
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“Some folks that work at the laboratory called us, asked us if we could send a deputy to stand by while they were evacuating,” House said during a phone interview Wednesday. “All the employees were packing up and leaving.”
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House said they didn’t get any more answers at the observatory, but staff members told deputies the FBI had been there.
“Nobody would give us any information on what was going on,” House said, before the phone call cut out and repeated attempts to reach him again were unsuccessful.
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FBI spokesman Frank Fisher would not confirm or deny the agency’s involvement but referred all questions to AURA.
U.S. Postal Service spokesman Rod Spurgeon called the situation “strange” after authorities walked into the nearby post office without warning and told the clerk to evacuate.
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“I wasn’t present … so I’m not sure which law enforcement agency told us to evacuate,” Spurgeon said.
He said no timeline was given on when the office would be able to reopen.
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Spurgeon said he is waiting on a call, but doesn’t know from whom as he has not heard from any authorities or agency.
“It’s shrouded in mystery,” he said.
An employee at the nearby Apache Point Observatory said they are also in the dark.
“We know about as little as anybody,” the employee said.
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The employee said people in the area have seen unknown authorities hovering in helicopters and driving up in vehicles.
“Nobody would know who they are – you stop them and they won’t tell you anyway,” he said.
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The employee said there is not enough information to “worry about it,” but the mystery continues to deepen among locals.
“That’s what happens when you do something and don’t tell anybody why,” he said.

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Contact the writer. (https://www.abqjournal.com/author/mreisen)
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 13, 2018, 09:16:09 AM
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The employee said people in the area have seen unknown authorities hovering in helicopters and driving up in vehicles.
“Nobody would know who they are – you stop them and they won’t tell you anyway,” he said.
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If the observed people hovering in helicopters and driving up in vehicles are unknown and won't identify themselves, how does anyone really know they are "authorities?" 
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: forlorn on September 14, 2018, 02:24:18 PM
I wonder what their motives are. Are the other major Solar Observatories still open? I've heard rumours they might be trying to cover-up the signs of another Carrington Event. 
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: forlorn on September 14, 2018, 02:25:09 PM
Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 13, 2018, 09:16:09 AM
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The employee said people in the area have seen unknown authorities hovering in helicopters and driving up in vehicles.
“Nobody would know who they are – you stop them and they won’t tell you anyway,” he said.
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If the observed people hovering in helicopters and driving up in vehicles are unknown and won't identify themselves, how does anyone really know they are "authorities?"
Well I'd certainly hope the real authorities would have enough cop on to know whether or not these "unknown authorities" should be there or not, and deal with them if they shouldn't be. 
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: MyrnaM on September 14, 2018, 03:27:24 PM
I just heard they evacuated the entire town.  Perhaps something fell around there and they don't want anyone to find it.  

Who knows, no one that will tell us!

Yet, wonder why all those other observatories closed, all over the world or is that just clickbait?
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Ladislaus on September 14, 2018, 05:14:06 PM
Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 10, 2018, 08:35:23 PM
Flat-earthers really hate observatories AND sunspots ...

:laugh1: ... sure, it was a flat earther.
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Ladislaus on September 14, 2018, 05:14:41 PM
Maybe they spotted Planet X.
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: MyrnaM on September 14, 2018, 05:30:14 PM
Would that be a round planet X or a flat planet X?
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 14, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
Quote from: MyrnaM on September 14, 2018, 03:27:24 PM
I just heard they evacuated the entire town.  Perhaps something fell around there and they don't want anyone to find it.  

Who knows, no one that will tell us!

Yet, wonder why all those other observatories closed, all over the world or is that just clickbait?
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Who said the entire town was evacuated? 
What other observatories were closed? 
Some sources question why there have been no other observatories evacuated. 
I've seen nobody saying there have been other closures. 
In fact, since there are numerous solar observatories worldwide, they're all watching the sun, so if something were happening on the sun that is of great relevance to this National Solar Observatory at Sacramento Peak evacuation, what would that be? 

Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 14, 2018, 10:54:18 PM
Quote from: forlorn on September 14, 2018, 02:25:09 PM
Well I'd certainly hope the real authorities would have enough cop on to know whether or not these "unknown authorities" should be there or not, and deal with them if they shouldn't be.
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And how would the "cop on" know to do anything about it if they can't see the "unknown authorities?"
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 14, 2018, 10:58:53 PM
Quote from: forlorn on September 14, 2018, 02:24:18 PM
I wonder what their motives are. Are the other major Solar Observatories still open? I've heard rumours they might be trying to cover-up the signs of another Carrington Event.
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Journalists looking into this story have reported that all the other observatories they have contacted are still open, and they have no information to offer regarding the Sacramento Peak solar observatory.
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There are lots of rumors of all kinds, but there are no answers. Nobody in the town of Sunspot knows what's going on, either.
Rod Spurgeon (someone whose job it is to know what's going on) can't say who ordered the Post Office clerk to evacuate. 
He says he wasn't there himself so he has no idea who or what agency closed the Post Office. 
Someone managed to shut down a US Post Office but without the involvement of the Postal Service? 
Since when does that happen?
Any "unknown authority" who interferes with the US Mail commits a Federal Crime, punishable by Federal Prison time.
Something isn't adding up.
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Everyone involved (outside of the mysterious, unidentified "unknown autorities") wonders what their motives are.
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The one thing there is none of, is answers.
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 14, 2018, 11:17:32 PM
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FBI spokesman Frank Fisher would not confirm or deny the agency’s involvement but referred all questions to AURA.
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“The Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy is addressing a security issue … and has decided to temporarily vacate the facility as a precautionary measure,” AURA spokeswoman Shari Lifson said in a statement. “We have no further comment at this time.”
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Lifson said AURA is working with the proper authorities, but would not name them.
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According to the facility’s website, the observatory and surrounding area are closed until further notice “due to unforeseen circuмstances.”
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Notice, AURA admits to having closed the observatory. However, the Post Office down the street was evacuated by an "unknown authority" that nobody, not even the local Sheriff can identify. It is a Federal crime to interfere with the Postal Service, but here an unknown entity has interfered with the operation of an entire office of the Postal Service and nobody has anything to say about it.
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What is wrong with this picture?
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Geremia on September 14, 2018, 11:32:10 PM
Quote from: forlorn on September 14, 2018, 02:24:18 PM
Are the other major Solar Observatories still open?
Yes, National Solar Observatory has a solar observatory on Kitt Peak, Arizona (McMath-Pierce Solar Telescope (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMath%E2%80%93Pierce_solar_telescope)), similar to the New Mexico one.
Quote from: forlorn on September 14, 2018, 02:24:18 PM
I've heard rumours they might be trying to cover-up the signs of another Carrington Event.
That's probably the best explanation so far.
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 14, 2018, 11:43:50 PM
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ABC News throws hat into the ring:
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/conspiracy-theories-float-evacuated-mexico-observatory-roswell/story?id=57801213
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Mystery surrounds solar observatory evacuated near Roswell, New Mexico
Sep 13, 2018, 4:32 PM ET


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A mysterious solar observatory evacuation in remote New Mexico is sparking an array of conspiracy theories ranging from alien sightings to foreign spies.
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The Sunspot Solar Observatory was unexpectedly closed down and evacuated without publicly stated reason last Thursday -- and a week later, nobody seems to know why.
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(https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/sunspot-observatory-02-gty-rc-180913_hpEmbed_10x13_992.jpg)
National Solar Observatory, Sacramento Peak, New Mexico, 2009.

While local law enforcement was requested at the scene in the town of Sunspot, they said they were left in the dark. Benny House of the Otero County Sheriff’s Office told ABC News that employees from the observatory called his team in around 10 a.m. on Thursday, September 6. He said the team stood by for a few hours while employees evacuated, but the security issue remained a secret.
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"They were tight-lipped about what was going on, no one would tell us what the threat was," House said, and confirmed the FBI had been there.
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A post office nearby was also evacuated. An official from the United States Postal Service told ABC affiliate KVIA in El Paso (https://www.kvia.com/news/new-mexico/mysterious-closure-in-sunspot-nm/793115591), Texas, that he did not know who ordered the postal workers to leave.
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The observatory is run by the Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy, or AURA, which released a statement about the "security" incident.
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"AURA is addressing a security issue at the National Solar Observatory facility at Sacramento Peak, New Mexico and has decided to temporarily vacate the facility as a precautionary measure," Shari Lifson, AURA Corporate Communications Coordinator, said in a statement to ABC News. Lifson said AURA is working with authorities on the issue, but did not offer further information.
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Since last week’s evacuation, the Sunspot Observatory website has also posted a notice (https://sunspot.solar/):
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"On Thursday September 6th, AURA made the decision to temporarily close Sunspot. The Sunspot Solar Observatory continues to work closely with AURA in order to allow for us to reopen as soon as possible. With the excitement this closure has generated, we hope you will come and visit us when we do reopen, and see for yourself the services we provide for science and public outreach in heliophysics."
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The lack of explanation left plenty of room for the internet to speculate and cօռspιʀαcιҽs to emerge.
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ABC provides a link to the Popular Mechanics article:
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https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/telescopes/a23107258/fbi-new-mexico-observatory/
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An observatory in New Mexico has been unexpectedly closed (https://www.alamogordonews.com/story/news/local/2018/09/07/sunspot-observatory-south-cloudcroft-closed-due-security-issue/1227788002/) due to an unnamed "security issue," prompting evacuations and a visit from the FBI. The Sunspot Observatory is now currently closed to both staff and the public, with no word on why or when it will be open again.
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“We have decided to vacate the facility at this time as precautionary measure,” said spokesperson Shari Lifson to the Alomogordo Daily News (https://www.alamogordonews.com/story/news/local/2018/09/07/sunspot-observatory-south-cloudcroft-closed-due-security-issue/1227788002/). “The Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy who manages the facility is addressing a security issue at this time.”
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Lifson said that the facility was first evacuated on September 6 and has remained closed since then. According to Lifson, the observatory has no date for reopening yet.
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As part of the investigation into the security issue, the observatory has contacted the FBI, which has been reported on the scene with multiple agents and a Blackhawk helicopter. According to local sheriff Benny House, the agency has been working with local law enforcement but refuses to share any details.
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“The FBI is refusing to tell us what’s going on,” said House. “We’ve got people up there that requested us to standby while they evacuate it. Nobody would really elaborate on any of the circuмstances as to why.”
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The sheriff speculated that the evacuation could be due to some kind of threat made against the facility or its staff, but expressed confusion as to why local police would be left out of the loop. “If that’s the case, why didn’t they call us and let us deal with it?” he said. “I don’t know why the FBI would get involved so quick and not tell us anything.”
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Another possibility could be some sort of hazardous chemical leak or other natural danger, but again there’s no reason for the FBI to keep everyone in the dark. Whatever the reason, the scientists are forced to postpone their research while the FBI’s investigation continues.
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Source: Alomogordo Daily News (https://www.alamogordonews.com/story/news/local/2018/09/07/sunspot-observatory-south-cloudcroft-closed-due-security-issue/1227788002/)
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 18, 2018, 02:55:57 AM
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1-hour video from two days ago, Sunday 9-16-2018, with 65,732 views and 819 comments, 1.1K likes:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwTaAij1i-4
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Not only was the local Sheriff told his services were not needed, but the Sheriff himself (and deputies) were evacuated.
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Specific residents and workers in the area were evacuated and specific others were allowed by the FBI to remain in Sunspot.
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A news conference led by an unidentified entity is promised for later this week (as of Sunday).
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Maria Regina on September 19, 2018, 09:19:29 PM
https://drudgenow.com/article/?n=0&s=2&c=1&pn=Anonymous&u=https://www.ktsm.com/news/local/el-paso-news/child-pornography-reason-behind-sunspot-observatory-closure-according-to-court-docuмents/1460386237

Could this be the real answer that the Janitor did the dastardly deed.


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A federal search warrant reveals that Sunspot Solar Observatory was shut down as FBI agents conducted computer forensic searches for child pornography.

The source of child pornography was traced to an IP address used at the observatory and a source within the building observed a computer with "not good" images on it, the warrant states.

An investigation by the FBI revealed that a janitor is the main suspect in the search, however he has not been charged with a crime even though his name in on the warrant.

The warrant states the suspect would use the observatory Wifi and a personal laptop to download the child pornography.

A limited number of people have access to the observatory from dusk until dawn, which helped narrow their search.

The observatory in the mountains of southern New Mexico had been closed since Sept. 6 because of an undisclosed security concern, but reopened on Monday.

Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Geremia on September 20, 2018, 09:54:33 AM
Quote from: Maria Regina on September 19, 2018, 09:19:29 PM
Could this be the real answer that the Janitor did the dastardly deed.
Doesn't seem a likely explanation. The Pentagon had 5,200 suspected downloaders of child pornography in 2011, but the investigation was halted after 8 months (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pentagon-fails-to-investigate-suspected-child-porn-users-among-employees).
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Maria Regina on September 20, 2018, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: Geremia on September 20, 2018, 09:54:33 AM
Doesn't seem a likely explanation. The Pentagon had 5,200 suspected downloaders of child pornography in 2011, but the investigation was halted after 8 months (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pentagon-fails-to-investigate-suspected-child-porn-users-among-employees).
I suspect that this story of the evil janitor is a planted story, but one never knows.

Have there been any news alerts by the MSM or alternate sources that have proven this story to be correct?

Are there any more news stories out there? Other alternative video "reporters" are claiming that observatories in Australia and Hawaii, among others, still remained closed. Why?
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 26, 2018, 03:02:54 PM
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Someone knows the answers. There must be a reason that nobody's talking. Shutting down a post office? 
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on September 30, 2018, 01:47:21 AM
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The last website to mention this closure finally got sort of specific (no name for the perpetrator yet).
The observatory re-opened the 17th, but no mention of the Post Office is found. 
No interviews with the evacuated personnel and local residents, either. 
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http://earthsky.org/human-world/why-sunspot-solar-observatory-nm-closed-fbi
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Here’s what closed Sunspot Solar Observatory
By Paul Scott Anderson in HUMAN WORLD | SPACE | September 20, 2018
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Federal court docuмents this week revealed an FBI investigation of a janitor suspected of using Sunspot Solar Observatory’s internet connection to send and receive child pornography.
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UPDATE SEPTEMBER 20, 2018. Reuters and other media are reporting (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-mexico-observatory/new-mexico-observatory-closure-stemmed-from-fbi-child-porn-probe-docuмents-idUSKCN1M001P) that the mysterious 11-day closure of Sunspot Solar Observatory in New Mexico stemmed from an FBI investigation of a janitor suspected of using the facility’s wireless internet service to view and distribute child pornography. Federal court docuмents filed Wednesday, September 19, revealed this information. The suspect reportedly became “agitated,” leading to the closing of the observatory for the sake of staff safety. Read more from Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-mexico-observatory/new-mexico-observatory-closure-stemmed-from-fbi-child-porn-probe-docuмents-idUSKCN1M001P).
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UPDATE SEPTEMBER 16, 2018: The Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy (AURA) issued the following statement (http://aura-astronomy.org/news/news.asp?newsID=389) about the status of the Sunspot Solar Observatory at Sacramento Peak, New Mexico. The observatory has been closed – and residents and staff have been asked to stay off the mountain – since September 6. The statement said Sunspot Solar Observatory will transition back to regular operations as of Monday, September 17. The AURA statement said:
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On September 7, the Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy (AURA (http://www.aura-astronomy.org/)) and the National Science Foundation (NSF (http://www.nsf.gov/)) made the decision to temporarily vacate the Sunspot Solar Observatory (http://www.sunspot.solar/) at Sacramento Peak, New Mexico, as a precautionary measure while addressing a security issue. The facility closed down in an orderly fashion and is now re-opening. The residents that vacated their homes will be returning to the site, and all employees will return to work this week.
AURA has been cooperating with an on-going law enforcement investigation of criminal activity that occurred at Sacramento Peak. During this time, we became concerned that a suspect in the investigation potentially posed a threat to the safety of local staff and residents. For this reason, AURA temporarily vacated the facility and ceased science activities at this location.
The decision to vacate was based on the logistical challenges associated with protecting personnel at such a remote location, and the need for expeditious response to the potential threat. AURA determined that moving the small number of on-site staff and residents off the mountain was the most prudent and effective action to ensure their safety.
In light of recent developments in the investigation, we have determined there is no risk to staff, and Sunspot Solar Observatory is transitioning back to regular operations as of September 17th. Given the significant amount of publicity the temporary closure has generated, and the consequent expectation of an unusual number of visitors to the site, we are temporarily engaging a security service while the facility returns to a normal working environment.
We recognize that the lack of communications while the facility was vacated was concerning and frustrating for some. However, our desire to provide additional information had to be balanced against the risk that, if spread at the time, the news would alert the suspect and impede the law enforcement investigation. That was a risk we could not take.
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Geremia on October 01, 2018, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: Neil Obstat on September 30, 2018, 01:47:21 AM
The suspect reportedly became “agitated,” leading to the closing of the observatory for the sake of staff safety.
Perhaps the post office closed because this porn addict called in a bomb threat to them? sɛҳuąƖ deviance + anger = extreme violence.
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 03, 2018, 10:41:29 PM
Quote from: Geremia on October 01, 2018, 11:14:54 AM
Perhaps the post office closed because this porn addict called in a bomb threat to them? sɛҳuąƖ deviance + anger = extreme violence.
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Why would they close the Post Office AND the Sheriff's office if it were child porn on the janitor's laptop?
Why would a bomb threat result in the Sheriff being put out of his office by the FBI?
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The Sheriff would have been involved, especially because he's familiar with local residents.
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A whole 3 weeks later and still, nobody has been arrested.
The man whose NAME appears in the search&seizure warrant (made public) has not been apprehended.
Could this child porn thing be a cover for what's really going on? 
Why are local residents not demonstrating over having a pedophile in town without an ankle bracelet on?
Why is there no media coverage? 
As soon as the "child porn" explanation was divulged suddenly nobody's interested anymore?
What about the families nearby with young children? Not interested?
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Something's rotten in Denmark.
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Here is a link to a live podcast that took place just today, where about minute 9:45 this topic comes up.
An anonymous informant offers informed speculation that he thinks China was using the observatory's system to spy on a military base right down the hill from the observatory, and that's why the Sheriff was out of the loop because national security is above his capacity.
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Remember, there was an OFFICIAL statement that it was a national security problem. That could easily be foreign espionage.
And nobody doubts that China is really intense on electronic espionage. -- They make all our cell phones and many of our computers.
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The MSM isn't going to be offering any real inside scoop on this closure.
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The Post Office would also fall under this umbrella because there might be mail on hand that is relevant for the investigation, and the postal service workers would not be able to stay out of the way unless they were removed from the scene.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrZlBaPQ3UE
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Starting at minute 16 and later has a lot of UFO type content.
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Maria Regina on October 04, 2018, 08:50:05 PM
China could be in the loop.

Perhaps right now is not a good time to mention China, hence the silence.

Information from the House Judiciary Committee might explain things in a week or two.
HRC is related to China and to all their spy ware that is in our computers, smart phones,
electronics and ships. Apparently, these compromised electronics caused our Navy
vessels to malfunction and crash. Remember back a year ago?
It was so embarrassing to the Navy.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-navy-ship-collisions-were-avoidable-report-finds/


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WASHINGTON -- A U.S. Navy report released Wednesday concluded that two deadly ship collisions in the Pacific earlier this year were avoidable.

It said the collisions, which killed a combined total of 17 sailors, resulted from widespread failures by the crews and commanders who didn't recognize and respond to unfolding emergencies quickly. Navy leaders publicly acknowledged those failings in a congressional hearing last month ...

In June, the USS Fitzgerald (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uss-fitzgerald-captain-navy-discipline/) and a container ship collided off the coast of Japan, and the USS John S. McCain (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-navy-uss-john-s-mccain-collision-commander-executive-officer-relieved-duty/) and a merchant vessel collided near Singapore in August [2017]. ...


Yes, the Navy has their official explanations, and heads rolled, but if electronics were
the weak link, do you think the Navy would admit that publicly?  No way. We could lose battles.

The James Baker testimony before the House Committee is extremely important in this
regard as he worked with the DNC and Perkins Coie, the law firm which represented the
DNC. James Baker has turned state's evidence and he is singing like a songbird.

Jeff Sessions was subpoenaed to appear before the same House Judiciary today, and to
present the following docuмents in unredacted form. This will tie in with Baker's testimony.
https://judiciary.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/092718_Subpoena.pdf

1. The McCabe Memos (mentioning Rod Rosenstein et al)
2. The Woods Files (FISA docuмents for Carter Page)
3. All docuмents shared with Gang of 8 in May 2018 regarding the Russian Collusion.

More heads will roll:
 (https://twitter.com/RepGoodlatte)
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Bob Goodlatte‏ (https://twitter.com/RepGoodlatte)
Verified account @RepGoodlatte (https://twitter.com/RepGoodlatte)


As part of our joint investigation into decisions made by DOJ in 2016, today I subpoenaed Glenn Simpson to appear for a deposition
 2:07 PM - 28 Sep 2018

 
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We’ve also invited James Comey, Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, Stuart Evans, Richard Scott, Sally Moyer, and Mike Kortan as witnesses. Will subpoena them if necessary.

There is a lot of news coming out every day, and the rats are panicking as shown by all the hired protesters.
Today about 300 demonstrators were arrested in DC.
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Maria Regina on October 04, 2018, 08:57:28 PM
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Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 05, 2018, 05:29:06 AM
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"Today about 300 demonstrators were arrested in DC."
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According to whom?
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 05, 2018, 05:56:08 AM
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Starting around 3:45 and for the next 5 minutes in this video (from 9-19, the day the MSM came out with the final version of this story, after which a big nothing!) Howe interviews the Otero County Sheriff, Benny House -- whom the FBI kicked out of his own office.
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Who else bothered to interview the Sheriff?
His manner is very unsophisticated, so maybe other editors didn't appreciate his style.
But he's still the Sheriff.
And he is openly contemptuous of the unprofessional, cavalier and dangerous actions of the FBI.
They put his deputies in mortal danger, unnecessarily. And he does not appreciate that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh4LawTQafI
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One comment says, "The FBI always lies, that's normal for them."
Another responds, "Maybe their name is misspelled, should be FIB."
Title: Re: New Mexico: National Solar Observatory Closed, Evacuated Due to “Security Issue”
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 05, 2018, 06:46:21 AM
Quote from: Maria Regina on September 19, 2018, 09:19:29 PM
https://drudgenow.com/article/?n=0&s=2&c=1&pn=Anonymous&u=https://www.ktsm.com/news/local/el-paso-news/child-pornography-reason-behind-sunspot-observatory-closure-according-to-court-docuмents/1460386237

Could this be the real answer that the Janitor did the dastardly deed.
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You're reference here to the Drudge Report is very weak, since it was Drudge that incorrectly relayed the false message that other solar observatories even in foreign countries had been taken off line, when the National Observatory at Sunspot was in fact the ONLY ONE to be closed. Drudge didn't bother to check facts before reporting!
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As for "The Janitor did it!" check out these comments (from below the video I posted above):
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QQTrick1QQ  2 weeks ago (edited)  Per FOX NEWS.......Sunspot Solar Observatory reopens in New Mexico. ... A New Mexico solar observatory reopened Monday after an 11-day FBI investigation of a janitor who was suspected of using the facility’s internet to download child pornography, federal court docuмents revealed Wednesday............. Sounds sketchy
Chad Lickinstein
Chad Lickinstein
2 weeks ago
QQTrick1QQ they wouldn't shut it down over that
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Krysten B
Krysten B
2 weeks ago
@Chad Lickinstein no. They wouldn't evacuate it either.  That's horse radish.
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Serg NYC
Serg NYC
2 weeks ago
Not buying that cover story. If that was true then local law enforcement would have been involved.
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Krysten B
Krysten B
2 weeks ago
@Serg NYC definitely
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Serg NYC
Serg NYC
2 weeks ago
@Jeanine London If thats the case why would the Sheriff be getting his info from the news and not the FBI?
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Tony South Dakotah
Tony South Dakotah
2 weeks ago
QQTrick1QQ
Ah yes, shut down multiple observatories, post offices and webcams for that reason, makes perfect sense. And perfectly explains the dead hiker nearby too.
[Note: multiple observatories is incorrect --
dead hiker story explained below:
German tourist ignorant of the desert.]
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Timothy Hartman
Timothy Hartman
2 weeks ago (edited)
Jeeezz, some people will Jump to wild conclusions OR swallow a hook, line and...just to feel right and self important...
..reason and sense is not the general public's best suit for sure.
F B I INVOLVED IN A remote area with a ? sex scandal ... that is A Pile of...
A N D evac an entire area, tape it and close it up??!!!!
So far I have heard stories from illegals crossing nearby, to SPYING on White Sands to the high heavens danger from super flares to fleets of UFO'S AROUND the sun.
We have a memory people...
We Know the Pattern, Behavior, Earmarks of U Know Whoo..
GOVERNMENTS!!!
They Lie All the time
I would easily wager and win..
Face Palm..
Most will throw arms in air walk away and FO-get about it baby.
With this in mind and reason there is something BIG going on.

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Julie R
Julie R
1 week ago
And they have made no arrest of this so called janitor according to Reuters.  No charges.. this story is bullsh*t
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milomilo
milomilo
1 week ago
@Krysten B -horse radish- lol
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milomilo
milomilo
1 week ago
This is such a B.S. story and to use child abuse as an excuse shows how evil these people are.
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Susan Smith
Susan Smith
1 week ago
But why close all six of them? No this is wrong.
[Note: Drudge relayed false story that multiple observatories were closed.]
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Smufter16
Smufter16
1 week ago (edited)
If that were true, law enforcement could have arrested him at work or at his home quietly without shutting down the whole town.
What is he going to do, hit them with his broom?
What a load of BS!!!
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QQTrick1QQ
QQTrick1QQ
1 week ago
Unless the downloads had a backdoor hack that infected the system is the only plausible explanation. Such as a country spying on the software.
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Krysten B
Krysten B
1 week ago
@Smufter16 exactly!
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thevancouverguy
thevancouverguy
1 week ago
@Susan Smith they didn't. No others [observatories] were closed. Thats a bullsh*t myth started by secureteam10 and maybe simon parkes. LINDA debunks and disputes that on her Fade to Black appearance a couple days ago
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JRRnotTolkien
JRRnotTolkien
1 week ago (edited)
Serg NYC    And they wouldn't have closed down the observatory, the post office and the town.  Good grief, what if every town where someone got caught with porn was shut down?  New York City, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami ... all would be evacuated and hundreds of post offices would be closed.
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BioStuff415
BioStuff415
1 week ago
so shut down the whole thing - for 11 days????
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doranpat
doranpat
1 week ago
QQTrick1QQ-dead hiker was a one-two HOUR drive away on the desert floor--a german tourist with no clue that u do not go hiking in the desert--leave your car in the parking lot and hit the trail alone with no water and leave ur cell phone in the car--that is just ignorance--that behavior might be safe in europe but not in the wild west. This is also very common this time of year in that area. I used to live there in Alamogordo and that was not an unusual occurance. I also have been to the Sunspot Observatory and owned land nearby--that was NOT just an observatory--it was a creepy place doing creepy things--forty years ago-and NOTHING HAS CHANGED--all those antennas over all those buildings that have NOTHING to do with observing the stars spells HAARP FACILITY TO ME..and THAT is what the fbi was interested in-not the telescope but all those antennas that they have pictured as removing along with THEIR operators.

DouglasUrantia
DouglasUrantia
1 week ago
If kiddy porn is found, the simply take the computers and arrest....they do NOT shut an entire town or site down.   Silly cover story.

berretta9mm1
1 week ago
QQTrickQQ, Totally ridiculous, and insulting in the extreme. "...a janitor who was suspected of using the facility’s internet to download child pornography..." This would be the first and ONLY time in history when Black-Hawk helicopters, armed agents, and the F.B.I. evacuated an entire town to arrest and investigate a janitor's 'child porn' collection on a computer. And the idea that a child porn collector and/or distributor would be using computers like the ones at Sunspot Observatory, with their security and encryption, is just ridiculous. No, beyond ridiculous: if such were true, they would have simply arrested the janitor, seized his computers, and carried on with Solar Sunspot activities. WHY do they believe we are so STUPID, or do they feel so arrogant, and untouchable, that they just say anything, and don't care how absurd it is?