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Offline Mark 79

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Soil amendments
« on: March 26, 2022, 08:20:16 PM »
The supply chain attack is making some products scarce.

Can anyone recommend reasonable sources for 40-60 lb bags of:

Peruvian bat guano?
AZOMITE?
fish bone meal (doesn't carry the prion disease risk of mammalian bone meals)?
other soil amendments?

Also I was sad to discover that my favorite source for species roses (not hybrid tea roses) is no longer shipping bare root roses. 

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Offline epiphany

Re: Soil amendments
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2022, 10:01:33 PM »
Quote from: Mark 79 on March 26, 2022, 08:20:16 PM
The supply chain attack is making some products scarce.

Can anyone recommend reasonable sources for 40-60 lb bags of:

Peruvian bat guano?
AZOMITE?
fish bone meal (doesn't carry the prion disease risk of mammalian bone meals)?
other soil amendments?

Also I was sad to discover that my favorite source for species roses (not hybrid tea roses) is no longer shipping bare root roses.
Why do you need all those?
The only soul ammendments I ever used was either rabbit poop or goat poop.  Both can be found on Craigslist, usually.
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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Soil amendments
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2022, 12:35:53 AM »
Quote from: epiphany on March 26, 2022, 10:01:33 PM
Why do you need all those?
The only soul ammendments I ever used was either rabbit poop or goat poop.  Both can be found on Craigslist, usually.

This will be my first attempt at "no till" technique. Tilling is a tough habit to break.

Are you familiar with AZOMITE ("A-to-Z-Of-Minerals-In-The-Earth")? Volcanically sourced, it contains even rare earth minerals, excepting the very short half-life radionuclides. When I have used it in the past, my yields improved 30-50%, more than any other amendment. It works so well it's almost like Bugs Bunny's carrot patch.

Our local topsoil is rather calcium deficient and, without supplement (e.g., the fish bone meal), tomatoes suffer especially, fruiting poorly, a problem aggravated by our extreme summer heat.

Two types of bat guano are available, high nitrogen and high phosphorous; the former aids vegetative phase and the later aids fruiting phase.

Anyway I did find a source: https://www.redbudsoilcompany.com/

We also have a good source for beneficial insects: https://www.arbico-organics.com/

When it comes to aphids on my roses and heirloom melons, I am a firmly committed genocidalist :-)
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Offline shin

Re: Soil amendments
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2022, 04:18:10 AM »
Never tried no till. Be interested to hear how it works out for you. :)

There are so many rocks in my soil every year I still have to till and toss rocks to try to improve it and give the root crops room to spread. Even without the rocks soil might be too compact to do no till, if it goes how I think it goes. I have tons of clonal saplings I trim back every year, so I'll be trying hugelkultur without really meaning to, perhaps that method will help naturally. For tomatoes have you tried egg shells?

I get beetles here attacking the roots of the root crops, so past two years tried the nematodes, they may in fact have helped as last year there appeared to be a portion fewer, but it's hard to say without more evidence. 

Just started my first seeds yesterday. Too early really here, average last frost is a long time away, but I can grow some of it indoors. This year -- starting the seeds in mason jars with sprout drainer lids, so I can see which seeds sprout before putting them in trays, should save me from any pruning.

S. Serenus ora pro nobis.



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Offline epiphany

Re: Soil amendments
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2022, 10:51:12 AM »
Quote from: Mark 79 on March 27, 2022, 12:35:53 AM
This will be my first attempt at "no till" technique. Tilling is a tough habit to break.

Are you familiar with AZOMITE ("A-to-Z-Of-Minerals-In-The-Earth")? Volcanically sourced, it contains even rare earth minerals, excepting the very short half-life radionuclides. When I have used it in the past, my yields improved 30-50%, more than any other amendment. It works so well it's almost like Bugs Bunny's carrot patch.

Our local topsoil is rather calcium deficient and, without supplement (e.g., the fish bone meal), tomatoes suffer especially, fruiting poorly, a problem aggravated by our extreme summer heat.

Two types of bat guano are available, high nitrogen and high phosphorous; the former aids vegetative phase and the later aids fruiting phase.

Anyway I did find a source: https://www.redbudsoilcompany.com/

We also have a good source for beneficial insects: https://www.arbico-organics.com/

When it comes to aphids on my roses and heirloom melons, I am a firmly committed genocidalist :-)
No. Never heard of it.
I am a big fan of square-foot and lasagne gardening.  I prefer to go up rather than till down.
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