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Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
« on: November 08, 2018, 09:31:18 AM »
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    Just about every radio station is all over this story.
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    Interviews being broadcast
    21 victims being treated right now for injuries, including cuts from leaping behind tables or out through broken windows for cover.
    12 people dead, including a police officer who stopped writing a traffic ticket to go into the bar when a man alerted him.
         The officer was within a few years of retirement from the police force.
    The shooter had a Glock 21, 0.45 calibur handgun with an extended magazine (illegal in California). It had been legally purchased, locally. 
    He was a former Marine, who reportedly had "mental issues," but somehow not severe enough to be detained or confined ("5150"). 
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    Hundreds of college students were at the bar before midnight when the shooting occurred.
    They scattered immediately, leaving the bar by every possible means, back doors, fire escapes, out windows after breaking them.
    The shooter was standing near the front door so probably nobody went out through that door while the shooter was active.
    The shooter was neutralized quickly. He was a local resident, 28 years old.
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    Local colleges have cancelled classes for the day:
         Moorpark College
         Cal Lutheran
         Pepperdine University
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    One station reported that there had been some people present at this bar who had also been present in Las Vegas last year at that shooting.
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    Some of the people present had in mind that a shooting could happen and had already been thinking about what to do in such an event.
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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #1 on: November 08, 2018, 10:38:59 AM »
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    Some people present were Cal State Channel Islands students.
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    Shooter's name is released: Ian David Long, resident of nearby Newbury Park, 28 years old.
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    Correction: an eyewitness claims that about 80 people were at the bar, which is a little less than usual (earlier reports said 100 or more).
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    Borderline is a Country music theme bar, where they have line dancing and many attendees go there to learn how to line dance.
          Last night, Wednesday, was "college night" at the bar, when 18 is the minimum age, average attendees about 22 years old.
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    A witness was asked if he would consider returning there in the future and he replied that it's too early to answer that question.
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    From the 101 (Ventura) freeway, Borderline is visible along the side of the road, near Moorpark and traffic control cautions motorists to be careful passing that area today because some motorists might unexpectedly slow down as they come within view of the Bar & Grill.
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    Just now they're saying the shooter initially walked up to the entrance and shot the security guards before shooting other people inside.
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    One witness says he has been to this bar at least 100 times and he has never seen any shooting or weapons there before, nor had he thought that might be possible;  there have been fights in the past but they are put down quickly.
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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 11:00:58 AM »
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  • One station reported that there had been some people present at this bar who had also been present in Las Vegas last year at that shooting.

    Well, I want to find out who those were and make sure I'm never too close to them.  :)

    Las Vegas is one of those events where everyone and his uncle was there.

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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2018, 11:06:44 AM »
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  • Well, I want to find out who those were and make sure I'm never too close to them.  :)

    Las Vegas is one of those events where everyone and his uncle was there.
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    Didn't Forrest Gump say he was there?
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    In the Old West lots of customers brought sidearms into bars or saloons. 
    Sometimes they shot their guns inside the bar and business went on as usual.
    They would shoot their guns just to express their approval of something.
    No big deal.
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    Now someone shoots a handgun in a bar and it's suddenly national bad news.
    If everyone had been packing heat this wouldn't have taken place to begin with.

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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #4 on: November 08, 2018, 04:45:13 PM »
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  • Lord, have mercy. Unfortunately, you can't fix crazy, and anyone who needs violence and killing to fulfill their goals is a damn lunatic.

    May they rest in peace. Children are not supposed to die before their parents.
    Justice for Hannah Cornelius


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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #5 on: November 08, 2018, 06:46:25 PM »
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  • See the map below of the planned crazy shootings that have occurred since the Jewish Synagogue killings
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    Ask yourself:
    How many of these shooters were MK ultras?
    How many of these shooters were on drugs?
    Actors involved?
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    There are just too many shootings. There must be a connection. These cannot be merely coincidences!
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    Oct. 30 - Vallejo, CA 2 dead/5 wounded
    Oct. 30 - Los Angeles, CA 0/5
    Oct. 29 - Riverside, CA 0/7
    Nov. 2 -  Long Beach, CA 0/4
    Nov. 7 - Thousand Oaks, CA 13/23
    Nov. 1 - Minneapolis, MN 0/5
    Nov. 3 - Watertown, NY 0/8
    Oct. 31 - Detroit, MI 1/4
    Nov. 1  - Springfield, MO 2/4
    Oct. 27 - Memphis, TN 0/5
    Nov. 2 - Tallahassee, FL 3/8
    Oct. 28 - El Dorado, Ark. 2/4

    Go to https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shooting-reported-borderline-bar-grill-thousand-oaks-california-n933831
    data was missing from the map, except the locations.

    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #6 on: November 08, 2018, 09:11:52 PM »
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  • As I've told several people, this is just the latest regularly-scheduled mass shooting. Maybe no one died at all.

    "Yawn".

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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #7 on: November 08, 2018, 09:56:26 PM »
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  • As I've told several people, this is just the latest regularly-scheduled mass shooting. Maybe no one died at all.

    "Yawn".
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    This is the kind of reaction I got when I tried to tell Catholics about the ritual assassination of Fr. Alfred J. Kunz: they didn't believe it happened.
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    They didn't read about it in the Tidings or Circle Media so they thought it must not be real.
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    The Moslems say Jesus Christ did not die on the cross. Maybe you didn't know about that.
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    Perhaps the twin towers at the World Trade Center never existed, just urban legend, Photoshopped in to the NY skyline.
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    Or the so-called Old Man in the Mountain in New Hampshire -- just a figment of wild imaginations! 
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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #8 on: November 08, 2018, 10:22:22 PM »
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  • See the map below of the planned crazy shootings that have occurred since the Jewish Synagogue killings
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    Ask yourself:
    How many of these shooters were MK ultras?
    How many of these shooters were on drugs?
    Actors involved?
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    There are just too many shootings. There must be a connection. These cannot be merely coincidences!
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    Oct. 30 - Vallejo, CA 2 dead/5 wounded
    Oct. 30 - Los Angeles, CA 0/5
    Oct. 29 - Riverside, CA 0/7
    Nov. 2 -  Long Beach, CA 0/4
    Nov. 7 - Thousand Oaks, CA 13/23
    Nov. 1 - Minneapolis, MN 0/5
    Nov. 3 - Watertown, NY 0/8
    Oct. 31 - Detroit, MI 1/4
    Nov. 1  - Springfield, MO 2/4
    Oct. 27 - Memphis, TN 0/5
    Nov. 2 - Tallahassee, FL 3/8
    Oct. 28 - El Dorado, Ark. 2/4

    Go to https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shooting-reported-borderline-bar-grill-thousand-oaks-california-n933831
    data was missing from the map, except the locations.


    Remember also that America is the third-biggest country in land and population. There are 320 million people in a giant landmass with more guns than people. Inevitably a portion of those guns will go into the wrong hands.
    Justice for Hannah Cornelius

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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
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    Remember also that America is the third-biggest country in land and population. There are 320 million people in a giant landmass with more guns than people. Inevitably a portion of those guns will go into the wrong hands.
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    If everyone in the Borderline Bar & Grill had been wearing a sidearm, this shooting would never have happened in the first place.
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    So the more guns the better, but we should be permitted to wear them in public.
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    They have open carry in Texas, where bank robberies are almost unheard of.
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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #10 on: November 09, 2018, 11:46:35 PM »
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  • As I've told several people, this is just the latest regularly-scheduled mass shooting. Maybe no one died at all.

    "Yawn".
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    Whatever you do, do not contact Adam Housley and his wife, actress Tamera Mowry-Housley, and tell them that you as a Catholic don't think their niece, Alaina Housley, was killed Wednesday at Borderline Bar & Grill.
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    This undated photo provided by former Fox News correspondent Adam Housley and his wife, 
    actress Tamera Mowry-Housley, shows their niece, Alaina Housley, a Pepperdine University 
    freshman who was among those killed in the Wednesday shooting at the 
    Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks, Calif.

    Adam Housley/AP
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    Alaina Housley, 18, had recently started her freshman year at Pepperdine University in Malibu, Calif.
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    For hours after the attack and into the early morning hours of Thursday, Housley's family was desperately seeking information about her.
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    Housley is the niece of actress Tamera Mowry-Housley and her husband, Adam Housley, a former Fox News reporter.
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    Shortly after the shooting, Adam Housley said the teen's "Apple Watch and iPhone still showed her location on the dance floor," the LA Times reported over Twitter.
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    Hours later, the couple confirmed the young woman's death in a statement, writing, "Our hearts are broken."
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    "Alaina was an incredible young woman with so much life ahead of her and we are devastated that her life was cut short in this manner," the couple added.
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    Housley's Facebook page says she is from Napa, Calif., and photos on the site include several pictures of her surrounded by a group of friends at what appears to be her graduation from Vintage High School.
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    "We offer our deepest condolences to the Housley family and ask that our community join us in keeping Alaina's family, friends, and loved ones in their prayers during this incredibly difficult time," Pepperdine University added in a statement.
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    And don't try to tell Jason Coffman that you, as a Catholic, don't think he had a son and they're just making all this up.
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    As I'm sure many of you know, we lost one of our employees last night in the mass shooting that occurred in Thousand Oaks. Cody Coffman was such an encouraging soul, always smiling and so happy all the time. Our hearts are aching today as we mourn him. Cody had such a bright future ahead of him. He was just weeks away from joining the Army. We know Cody's heart and he sacrificed his own life, to protect the ones around him. 
    Cody Coffman, you are a hero.
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    Cody Coffman, 22, was the oldest son of Jason Coffman, who confirmed his death amid sobs in an interview with reporters.
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    "This is going to be absolutely heart-wrenching time for me and my family," Jason Coffman said, adding that Cody's younger brothers and soon-to-be born sister would miss him terribly.
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    He recalled their last conversation as the younger man was leaving for Borderline: "I talked to him last night before he headed out the door. The first thing I said was, 'Please don't drink and drive.' The last thing I said was, 'Son, I love you.' "
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    Jason Coffman said his son had recently moved in with him, and that Cody had been meeting with recruiters and planned to enlist in the Army, The Sun reported.
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    He worked at a Camarillo moving company called Attention to Detail.
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    On Facebook on Thursday, someone from the company had posted a few lines about Cody Coffman. The tribute described him as an "encouraging soul, always smiling and so happy all the time."
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    "Cody had such a bright future ahead of him," it reads. "He was just weeks away from joining the Army. We know Cody's heart and he sacrificed his own life, to protect the ones around him."
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    Or any of the other 10 casualties of this, as you say, "false flag" shooting. 
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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #11 on: November 10, 2018, 01:46:31 AM »
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  • From what I have read, FAKE FLAG EVENTS or WAG the DOG events are real acts of terrorism.

    Real people are killed, but crisis actors may be employed to create a powerful emotional scene. For example, a white girl is commonly seen at most of these mass shootings. She wears straight long dark brown hair and is usually seen hugging other people and crying with them.

    A common feature of these mass shootings is that they are used by the Deep State-controlled Main-Stream Media especially CNN, MSMBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NY Times, LA Times, Politico, etc. to create a strong emotional appeal for GUN CONTROL.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #12 on: November 10, 2018, 01:56:08 AM »
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  • From what I have read, FAKE FLAG EVENTS or WAG the DOG events are real acts of terrorism.

    Real people are killed, but crisis actors may be employed to create a powerful emotional scene. For example, a white girl is commonly seen at most of these mass shootings. She wears straight long dark brown hair and is usually seen hugging other people and crying with them.

    A common feature of these mass shootings is that they are used by the Deep State-controlled Main-Stream Media especially CNN, MSMBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NY Times, LA Times, Politico, etc. to create a strong emotional appeal for GUN CONTROL.
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    And if everyone in the bar had been carrying a gun this would never have happened.
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    Sean Adler, one of the first to die, was a bouncer but he did not have a gun. If bouncers were armed they'd be able to do their jobs better.
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    Sean Adler, 48, worked at the Borderline Bar & Grill as a bouncer. He also owned a coffee shop called Rivalry Roasters, which he opened over the summer.
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    He was a soccer and taekwondo coach.
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    The Los Angeles Times reported that before Adler changed his career path due to a heart attack, he had planned to join the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.
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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #13 on: November 10, 2018, 08:24:51 AM »
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  • From what I have read, FAKE FLAG EVENTS or WAG the DOG events are real acts of terrorism.

    Real people are killed, but crisis actors may be employed to create a powerful emotional scene. For example, a white girl is commonly seen at most of these mass shootings. She wears straight long dark brown hair and is usually seen hugging other people and crying with them.

    A common feature of these mass shootings is that they are used by the Deep State-controlled Main-Stream Media especially CNN, MSMBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NY Times, LA Times, Politico, etc. to create a strong emotional appeal for GUN CONTROL.
    That means nothing, though. A white girl with brown hair... is most white girls.
    Justice for Hannah Cornelius

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    Re: Shooting at Borderline Bar & Grill, Thousand Oaks, CA
    « Reply #14 on: November 10, 2018, 09:15:41 AM »
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  • i don't know about anyone else but I suspect it's generally true of many people. There are so many shootings that are questionable re: whether it was staged, false flag,crisis actors, people died, people didn't- that emotionally I am kind of distanced from the "tragedies", if there actually are some.. I'm afraid to buy into any of it.  It's hard to intellectually invest in a macabre masquerade designed to confiscate guns, but most important, to confiscate US personally, if we do not have guns. If people died at any of these shootings, I am truly sorry, but the obviously contrived nature of most of these events cast doubts on the potential "real" ones.
    I suspect , like others have said, that there are some composite "events", where it's planned but people actually died, and there is much infiltration of crisis actors and complicit government authorities and police.
    I don't have TV,( so I may miss a lot of this) but I never see family, except one or two token spokespeople; never see a funeral or even a procession of funeral cars. All pictures of victims seem to be recent ( no history?) and even the pictures at the shooting site seem to all look  alike- staged. I wonder where all the ambulances and helicopters are- there should be scores of them at a major shooting- there is usually one or two placed perfectly and a bunch of people at the event carrying a "victim" or two. Many pictures show the people hugging and crying- no tears. Same every time. Where are all of the lawsuits? I'm sure many family of victims would lawyer-up and sue everything and everyone they can, but we don't hear about this. At 9/11 there were thousands of lawsuits, and the families were offered a blanket payment of over a million dollars that was attached to a gag order- most took it. I guess that was an expensive mistake for the globalist  perps.
    Why didn't the Sandy Hook victim families sue the school, the police dept or the township? No, they only sued the federal government over gun laws, and proceeded to tour the country for gun regulation.
    I know I sound jaded, but none of this sits right -psychologically it's all off-kilter and maybe it's part of the globalist plan to desensitize us to horror as well, I don't know. All I do know is these mass shooting are here today and gone tomorrow- look at Las Vegas (where I do believe there were mass casualties)

     

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