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Offline poche

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« on: July 09, 2013, 03:55:19 AM »
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  • If you're ever so tired of working one day and wonder why you can't retire at the ripe old age of 65, please remember this man: The Sun tells the story of an 88-year-old man who they claim is the "oldest McDonald's worker," who has no plans to retire soon.

    Bill Dudley, 88, works as a customer care manager in Mold, North Wales, The Sun reports, despite his pacemaker, angina, and replacement knee. The great-grandfather still works for six hours a day, two days a week, because, "Sitting at home can get boring," Dudley tells The Sun. "I'm not a drinker and my wife won't let me touch the garden as she does all that. "

    Dudley had worked as a taxi worker beforehand for 15 years, as well as working at an aircraft manufacturer. But considering how grueling we know restaurant work to be, we have to give props to Dudley, who seems to enjoy his work at Mickey D's. "After four days off at home I look forward to coming to work because I like talking to people and meeting people - that's why I loved the taxi work," Dudley says. We can no longer complain about freezing cold offices.



    http://shine.yahoo.com/shine-food/worlds-oldest-mcdonalds-worker-151100840.html


    Offline Marlelar

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    « Reply #1 on: July 09, 2013, 04:42:16 PM »
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  • Good for him.  Too many people retire into their easy chair.

    Marsha


    Offline Frances

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    « Reply #2 on: July 09, 2013, 05:09:30 PM »
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  • Which of the Saints retired?  Has Our Lord retired?  What about Our Lady?  Surely, of all people, they deserve it!  That's why His Retiredness is such a scandal.
    There is a 95 year old who still works full-time in his family's financial firm in Manhattan.  He has no plans to retire.  (Yes, he's a Jєω.). What's up with Catholics?  It is one thing to retire FROM a "job," but one ought not retire from life.  In my experience, those who do the latter are dead within a few years.  One ought to retire TO, not just FROM.  My grandmother (RIP) worked full time until she was 86.  She retired from her accounting job because of health issues.  But she did volunteer work until she was 94.  Even when confined to a wheel chair, she did household chores, supervised grandchildren, knitted and crocheted for charity.  She died a holy death at age 102.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

    Offline poche

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    « Reply #3 on: July 09, 2013, 11:36:10 PM »
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  • You can go on vacation from school. You can go on vacation from work. If we live long enough we may get the option of retiring. But you never retire from your moral obliggations.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 10, 2013, 01:00:26 PM »
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  • I am retiring at 60-65. Like most fathers, I work 40-45 hours per week. I get 4 weeks vacation. The other 48 weeks I am at work significantly more than at home. I cannot go to Mass daily or spend a holy hour very often. I am looking forward to retirement. I am anticipating more time for my grandkids and for God. Working past 65, unless you have to, is silly. The guy working at Mac Donalds is probably not Catholic, especially not traditional. I assume he doesn't realise that his days are being wasted.
    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!


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    « Reply #5 on: July 14, 2013, 02:59:48 AM »
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  • Quote from: Napoli
    Working past 65, unless you have to, is silly. The guy working at Mac Donalds is probably not Catholic, especially not traditional. I assume he doesn't realise that his days are being wasted.


    Indeed! And he's hen-pecked:  "... my wife won't let me touch the garden as she does all that."
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 14, 2013, 10:34:52 AM »
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  • Quote from: Napoli
    I am retiring at 60-65. Like most fathers, I work 40-45 hours per week. I get 4 weeks vacation. The other 48 weeks I am at work significantly more than at home. I cannot go to Mass daily or spend a holy hour very often. I am looking forward to retirement. I am anticipating more time for my grandkids and for God. Working past 65, unless you have to, is silly. The guy working at Mac Donalds is probably not Catholic, especially not traditional. I assume he doesn't realise that his days are being wasted.
    It's not silly if you need the money. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have retirement accounts/savings or own a house. Maybe the older people working like to eat, use electricity, and have a roof over their head.  :stare:

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    « Reply #7 on: July 14, 2013, 10:39:21 AM »
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  • Quote from: Tiffany
    Quote from: Napoli
    I am retiring at 60-65. Like most fathers, I work 40-45 hours per week. I get 4 weeks vacation. The other 48 weeks I am at work significantly more than at home. I cannot go to Mass daily or spend a holy hour very often. I am looking forward to retirement. I am anticipating more time for my grandkids and for God. Working past 65, unless you have to, is silly. The guy working at Mac Donalds is probably not Catholic, especially not traditional. I assume he doesn't realise that his days are being wasted.
    It's not silly if you need the money. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have retirement accounts/savings or own a house. Maybe the older people working like to eat, use electricity, and have a roof over their head.  :stare:


    They could move to where their social security is actually livable.


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    « Reply #8 on: July 14, 2013, 11:26:56 AM »
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  • Good point guys.

    But, it's prudent to save for your retirement. If this means moving somewhere affordable, so be it.

    The devil wants us to spend those golden years more concerned about filling our stomachs than our souls. I would suggest that prayer and the sacraments are of greater importance than living comfortably. After all, if you knew you had a few years to live, what would you do?

    I don't mean to make light of anyone who is suffering due to the current economic climate.

    Pax
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    « Reply #9 on: July 14, 2013, 11:34:30 AM »
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  • People need to eat and they need a place to sleep to function half normally.

    Spiritual advice to give up basic needs from those who have never been hungry or homeless. Starve and spend more time  focusing on the Sacraments!

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    « Reply #10 on: July 14, 2013, 12:05:21 PM »
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  • Tiffany,

    That's not really what I was saying. Please accept my apology, if you understood that to be my point.

    I'm one of those guys who's always lived beneath there means. I am always thinking about my family and avoiding excessive hardships. No credit card debt, for example. No loans, period. Saving every month. In silver/gold, by the way.

    Pax
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    Offline Frances

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    « Reply #11 on: July 14, 2013, 01:12:50 PM »
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  • Some of us have no choice unless we consider living in a homeless shelter or on the street a choice. If Soc. Sec. is still solvent in 13 years, I won't be able to live on it anywhere, despite having worked my entire life.  By the time I figured out there ARE no jobs in my field that I can morally accept AND make a decent wage, it's a bit late to start over.  Besides, my job is more or less a vocation for me.  You don't retire from a vocation.  You die in it.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #12 on: July 14, 2013, 03:08:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
    Some of us have no choice unless we consider living in a homeless shelter or on the street a choice. If Soc. Sec. is still solvent in 13 years, I won't be able to live on it anywhere, despite having worked my entire life.  By the time I figured out there ARE no jobs in my field that I can morally accept AND make a decent wage, it's a bit late to start over.  Besides, my job is more or less a vocation for me.  You don't retire from a vocation.  You die in it.


    This is false. You can live on social security if you are willing to move to a cheap area and live frugally.

    I have family members that do, they live in the rural south, rural midwest, and rural parts of Idaho or Colorado.

    Rent is really cheap, they dont eat out, they grow some things and do an odd job here or there for income. One does a paper route that only takes them a couple hours a day for extra money and theyre an early riser anyway. One assists at a food bank once a week and they give her a lot of food for her help.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 14, 2013, 05:51:28 PM »
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  •  :confused1:
    Maybe. But how do you know how much So. Sec. I'll be getting?  
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #14 on: July 14, 2013, 09:04:23 PM »
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  • The topic of retirement is something that bothers me. Not because I'm improvident, but because of the damage the baby boomer generation did to our economy.

    You figure most of them were in their salad years taking advantage of the work and changes their parents laid down after the world wars. At the same time they worked to undo it all. Previously, there was a large divide between the have and have nots. After WWII USA was top dog, we finally had a large middle class and an employment ideal that valued it workers, not shareholders.

    People didn't have healthcare insurance, college was affordable and attainable if you buckled down with a job. If matriculating wasn't you're thing (and its NOT for many people and there's nothing wrong with that) you could have a living wage support a family with a blue collar job.Pensions were promised to those who stayed with their companies and it was a common thing thing work decades at a single job.

    Then they decided they didn't need these constrictive religions. They needed Freedoms to express themselves but laws to enforce these new ideals. Blue collar work was so déclassé, everyone should go to college and have loans to do so, to join and understand these "intrepid ground breakers" being inculcated with mind numbing ideaologies. Late 60s health insurance was pushed to make it more "affordable." Unions were strengthened.

    Now the house is crumbling down. Families are broken or never formed for people's self interests and whims. Religion is an old relic that oppressed people, we do as we please. All those blue collar jobs are over in china giving them a middle class, pushing our job participation rate down. Colleges raise rates every year based on easy loan money with little return on investment. Kids are being turned into debt slaves. Health costs are out of control being the number 1 bankruptcy cause. Boomers are the last generation to see pensions protected by their unions.

    /rant