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Radiation fallout from Japan affects food safety across North America

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April 20, 2011

“Dr. Robert J. Gilbert has a multi-faceted background in both spiritual and scientific studies. He is a former U.S. Marine Corps Instructor in Nuclear-Biological-Chemical Warfare Survival; since leaving the service in 1985 he has conducted independent research into the Geometric basis of modern science and new technologies…..” Read more

Clearly, in light of his background, Robert Gilbert is someone worth listening to on the subject of radiation dangers from the recent nuclear disaster in Japan. Here’s an excerpt from a page on his Vesica.org website, dealing with the subject:

“AREAS WHOSE FOOD PRODUCTS MAY NOW CARRY RADIOACTIVE FALLOUT

The Entirety of the Northern Hemisphere around the world is affected by fallout, as well as the Pacific Ocean.

Most Serious:  Japan, Pacific Ocean, and Pacific Rim States

Most Contaminated food areas of North America (based on fallout wind spread patterns charted by European scientific research agencies) in order of likely intensity of contamination, starting with the most contaminated:

    Entire Pacific Coast (note that much of the produce in North America comes from this region, especially California)
    Northern U.S. States close to Canada, and Canadian areas close to the U.S. (including Toronto etc.)
    Eastern States
    Central States of the U.S., and Far Northern areas of Canada

SAFEST AREAS OF ORIGIN FOR FOOD PRODUCTS

The majority of contamination is in the northern hemisphere and the Pacific Ocean region.  Most of the Southern Hemisphere has little to no fallout (the exception is the Southern Hemisphere in the Pacific; Australia for example is finding radioactive fish in the ocean, so although they may not get much atmospheric fallout they are affected by the massive contamination of the Pacific Ocean.)

Also note that radioactive contamination is being found on non-food products being imported from Japan.

Safest Areas of Origin for food products:
Central America (avoid items from the Pacific Coast area of Mexico)
South America
Africa

Europe is also far less contaminated that North America, although it is also experiencing significant fallout; so it is a better source for products than North America, however not as good as Southern Hemisphere sources.  (However some South American produce may contain high levels of pesticides not allowed to be used in the U.S. or Canada.)

ITEMS OF SPECIAL CONCERN FROM AFFECTED AREAS

Most affected:

All Ocean-Derived Products from the Pacific Ocean: the Fukushima accident dumped millions of times the normal background levels of radiation into the Pacific, where it is affecting the entire ocean (most toxic near Japan and bordering areas, but now reaching to the US West Coast: debris from the Tsunami in Japan is also expected to start washing up on the West Coast in the near future.)  There are already reports of Pacific Fish showing radioactive contamination.
This indicates a need to be cautious regarding:
All Pacific Ocean Fish
Sea Salt or Ocean Minerals derived from the Pacific
All Pacific Seaweed and Sea Vegetables (order Atlantic Ocean seaweed at www.theseaweedman.com )

Milk and all Dairy Products (butter, cheese etc.) from all animals: Cows, Goats, and Sheep (Dairy products have the most intense immediate absorption of radiation from fallout). Radioactive contamination of milk has been found throughout the United States, especially on the West Coast.

Any plant with a large surface area exposed to the air while growing:  The most intense radiation absorption in plants is through rain falling directly on the leaves  of the plant, where it is directly absorbed.  Rainwater absorbed through the earth into the plant is already of much lower radiation intensity due to the filtering affect of the soil.

All broad leaf plants and plants with large surface areas grown in the open air (rather than in greenhouses) are the most contaminated, for instance Salad Greens, Spinach, Cabbage etc.  Contaminated crops in California (carrying radioactive iodine and cesium) have already been confirmed by UC Berkeley.

[Carrots and other root vegetables are less contaminated due to growing underground.]

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Water from Rainwater or Open Lake type catchments: instead drink bottled water, or water from underground wells or other underground sources (radiation is greatly reduced when the particles have to travel through the ground.)

PREGNANT (OR BREASTFEEDING) WOMEN AND YOUNG CHILDREN SHOULD ESPECIALLY BE CAREFUL REGARDING THESE ITEMS COMING FROM FALLOUT AFFECTED AREAS…”
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2011, 09:21:04 AM »
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    Stock up with Fresh Food that lasts with eFoodsDirect (Ad)

     :laugh1:

    Just as bad as articles about dollar value meltdown with "purchase silver" advertisements.


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    « Reply #2 on: April 21, 2011, 11:42:39 AM »
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  • Here's the problem, Vandaler --

    It's "convenient" that a person can't get a Geiger counter for love or money these days...

    But it can't be the individuals publishing articles about dangerous radiation over North America, etc. that are responsible for the "convenient outage".

    Lots of alternative news sites are working hard to acquire Geiger counters so the controversy/mystery can be solved once and for all.

    The government, etc. would have the resources to make Geiger counters so unavailable -- but it could also be the recent spike in demand. Either way, it's not our fault nobody can get one.

    It's true that radioactive tap water, milk, produce, etc. has been found in the United States. How is the article I posted controversial?

    Even if you don't like InfoWars.com, do you really think the whole site is 100% BS?  If they didn't throw out some truth, why would people come around for news there?

    Honestly, Vandaler, you're as cynical about people who consume (and provide) alternative news sources, as we alternative news - consumers are cynical about the government.

    You're the pot calling the kettle black -- a hypocrite -- that's what you are.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 21, 2011, 12:54:23 PM »
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    Here's the problem, Vandaler --

    It's "convenient" that a person can't get a Geiger counter for love or money these days...


    Alex Jones can get a Geiger counter for less then 500$, or, if his favorite provider is sold out, he can borrow from one of his many fans who likely purchased one.  Which means, that Alex Jones, could be scurring all about and taking readings everywhere and actually inform.  But he's not in the business of informing, he's in the business of fear, and you Sir, are a regular customer.

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    Honestly, Vandaler, you're as cynical about people who consume (and provide) alternative news sources, as we alternative news - consumers are cynical about the government.


    You don't know what your talking about. Little less then half of my information is obtained through non-traditional media. Difference his, everything I eventually accept as reasonably believable is very carefully vetted and always evidence based.





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    « Reply #4 on: April 21, 2011, 12:58:40 PM »
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  • In other words, you wrongly assume that I am only critical of what I read here, and that everything else I consume gets a free pass.  You assume wrong.


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    « Reply #5 on: April 21, 2011, 12:59:06 PM »
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  • So what you're criticizing is that Infowars (and myself) don't always have evidence for what they post.

    Well, evidence isn't always available -- if it were, everyone would follow it and there'd be so such thing as being "early" or "ahead of the crowd".

    Being wrong once in a while is the price you pay for the possibility of being ahead of the crowd.

    When the DOW drops 3,000 points in one day and the next leg of the financial collapse begins, then EVERYONE believes it all at once because there is evidence right there on CNNmoney. The problem is, then it's too late for anyone. Everyone is in the same stampede to get out.

    Sometimes you have to use other means to get at the truth, to get a feeling for what's coming IN THE FUTURE. Scientific evidence is often late to the party.
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    « Reply #6 on: April 21, 2011, 01:04:56 PM »
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  • I would like to write a longer post on this, but this will have to do:

    Can you really accuse someone of consuming/dealing in fear, when the age in which one lives is FRAUGHT with very real danger, fear, and uncertainty?

    We have an ongoing nuclear disaster WORSE than Chernobyl, with no sign of being fixed, the 3rd largest economy (Japan) mortally wounded, governments complicit in environmental destruction, trusting impotent private companies to deal with epic disasters (BP, TEPCO), the US government on the verge of bankruptcy (and the US Dollar on the verge of collapse), evidence that governments are creating/modifying weather events using HAARP technology, some countries saying, "We will not engage in weather wars" and making treaties with each other to that effect -- and hundreds of other things.

    It's a time of confusion, chaos, danger, and "things that shouldn't happen" happening every day. Does that breed a bit of fear? You bet.

    Some of the things I/we fear are almost certain to happen -- because you can always trust mathematics and physics. You know, science!
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    « Reply #7 on: April 21, 2011, 01:13:16 PM »
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  • And, Vandaler -- I'm sorry if I misjudged what you were trying to say.

    But I think you're misjudging me as well.

    I'm not a fan of Alex Jones OR Infowars; I only post articles by them rarely, and only if I'm already sure about the issue they refer to.

    Alex Jones is a controlled opposition/gatekeeper whose job is to deflect the wrath of "those waking up" away from the Jєωs, and toward the "military-industrial complex". So no, I'm not a big fan of his.

    But he does wield a lot of truth, to get his mission accomplished. If he had no truth, everyone would ignore him.

    So I am very selective about what articles I endorse from his site.
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    « Reply #8 on: April 21, 2011, 01:50:53 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    And, Vandaler -- I'm sorry if I misjudged what you were trying to say.

    But I think you're misjudging me as well.


    Bottom line: Geiger counters are common enough that high radiation is not concealable.  Is there anything else to say on this subject?

    What I'm really saying is that advertisers on Infowars benefit from fear mongering, or present products in such a way that they are seen as remedies to crisis.  Therefore, Infowar has an additional burden to prove their credibility through evidence because they are placed in a conflict of interest.  

    I say conflict of interest because I'm being extra nice today, since I'm leaving on a 4 day vacation. In my hearts heart, I think it's a convergence of interest, but I can't prove that.   That which I can't prove, I can certainly can highlight with cynicism and leave for others and make up their minds.

    Finally, this is no personality contest between you and me, even though it might seem that way.  I've learned to appreciate you after hackergate even though we'll never agree on most things.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 22, 2011, 02:38:40 PM »
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    Alex Jones is a controlled opposition/gatekeeper whose job is to deflect the wrath of "those waking up" away from the Jєωs, and toward the "military-industrial complex". So no, I'm not a big fan of his.




    YEAH!!!!!


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    « Reply #10 on: April 22, 2011, 06:48:36 PM »
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  • As a former journalist, I examine all information which comes my way. This is true whether it is something I read in the corporate media for which I once worked, or whether it is a site like infowars.com. I follow the links to see if they check out. I check out alternative sources. Guess what? Alex Jones has a much better batting average than my former employer, the L. A. Times.

    Matthew, you are doing a wonderful job. Thank you for this website. I would rather see you spend your time with your informative posts rather than get bogged down in futile conversations with troublemakers.

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    « Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 11:31:51 AM »
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  • Sure Cera I'm sure that as a former journalist, you defend the principle that sponsors should be able to have direct hyperlinks within articles and especially when the product sold places the editor in direct conflict of interest.

    Because you know... you cherish and enjoy the fact that the "alternative media" are free thinkers with no moneymen to please.

    Plus, you know, a Rosicrucians with 25 years of experience of study in "Sacred Geometry" is such a compelling authority, that you can only fall on your knees and head the warnings... especially when these warnings are based on winds (literally - fallout wind spread patterns) and not actual local readings.  Who cares for those small details uh, especially when it's the kind of reading anyone can do with inexpensive instruments.

    I'm sure you were a swell reporter for praising such garbage.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 09, 2011, 09:17:03 PM »
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  • Hi Vandaler,
    I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. When I worked as a journalist, our editorial offices were kept totally separate from the sales department. Maybe you are criticizing those members of the media who are not part of the controlled media? I don't have a clue as to who the Rosicrucian is to whom you are referring. What are you saying?
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