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Offline SeanJohnson

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Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2021, 10:48:05 AM »
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  • Here’s a good list of dry bulk foods which can be purchased from the LDS sect (which has warehouses in every major city for same day purchase/pickup).

    A lot of these products have 30 year shelf lives if stored properly (food grade bucket/lid, Mylar bag sealed with hot iron, and oxygen absorbers added inside Mylar bag, stored in temp controlled environment), including dry milk.

    https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng

    Store locator:
    https://store.churchofjesuschrist.org/usa/en/store-locator
    Hmm...looks like they moved away from the 50lb bags I used to buy 10 years ago, to mostly cans.  That will save you money from having to buy all the buckets, lids, oxygen absorbers, and Mylar bags (as well as all the work involved), but prices are quite a bit higher, pound for pound.
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #16 on: May 03, 2021, 05:24:37 PM »
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  • Sean, don’t you have any other choice than those so-called latter day saints for supplies? 


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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #17 on: May 03, 2021, 06:25:43 PM »
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  • Sean, don’t you have any other choice than those so-called latter day saints for supplies?


    Is there an issue buying products from them?  

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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #18 on: May 03, 2021, 07:01:17 PM »
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  • Sean, don’t you have any other choice than those so-called latter day saints for supplies?
    Well, yes and no:
    Yes, there are plenty of companies online which I order various equipment and supplies from, but when it comes to bulk food (ie., 50 lb bags of flour, milk, pinto beans, wheat, etc), you would get clobbered from shipping costs if I were to order 500lbs of food, whereas the sect is local for pickup.
    I see what you are getting at (giving my money to a sect helps them, however incrementally), but I guess I never dwelled on it much until you made me think about it.  
    Hmm.
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #19 on: May 03, 2021, 07:10:16 PM »
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  • Well, yes and no:
    Yes, there are plenty of companies online which I order various equipment and supplies from, but when it comes to bulk food (ie., 50 lb bags of flour, milk, pinto beans, wheat, etc), you would get clobbered from shipping costs if I were to order 500lbs of food, whereas the sect is local for pickup.
    I see what you are getting at (giving my money to a sect helps them, however incrementally), but I guess I never dwelled on it much until you made me think about it.  
    Hmm.
    It's not like funding the LDS is much worse than funding some company that probably celebrates "pride month" and pays for its employees' birth control.


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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #20 on: May 03, 2021, 07:56:27 PM »
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  • We have a very modest food storage quantity, consisting mostly of canned foods, including many that could be eaten cold if it came to that.  Allowing for the fact that, in such circumstances, you would eat what you have, not necessarily what you want, we could hold out for at least a month.  That's not nearly enough, but right now, our circumstances don't allow for any more than that.  We have no land to speak of, and while I used to shy away from frozen storage, I have tilted towards that out of necessity (more in a moment), and we have two freezers full of mostly convenience foods.  I told my family that frozen food wouldn't do anybody much good if, say, we lost power for two weeks (as can happen in Hurricane Alley, where we are), but since my father's illness, we keep odd hours and, very often, dinner has to be something out of the freezer.  We drink bottled water and my father largely subsists on generic Ensure Plus supplement (Walmart Equate brand) as he has lost the ability to eat solid food.

    We have the 100-watt solar panel array from Harbor Freight (better than nothing) and it powers two outdoor floodlights for nighttime use, but if it came to it, we have a 150-watt 12/120v power inverter, which can power a couple of lamps or even a small TV set.  Again, better than nothing.  (I saw some smaller batteries on sale at Home Depot the other day, and am considering getting a second one, at least, if it would be compatible with solar power collection.  I'll have to do some research on it, the batteries are intended for golf carts, medical equipment, and the like.) I am a sometimes ham radio operator and I have a Baofeng handheld transceiver, not top-quality but it gets the job done.  We actually do not need heat about 9 months out of the year, and in the remaining 3 months, it is only needed sporadically.

    I also store tap water.  I have stomach issues and very often I drink club soda to soothe my stomach and to aid in digestion.  Those bottles (plastic) have to be fairly sturdy, due to the nature of club soda, and when I get done with one, I fill it with tap water and store it away.  It is not for drinking, though my son has a LifeStraw --- he got on a "prepper kick" of his own a few months ago, he'd been reading about the subject, and he prepared us "bug-out bags" (more for amusement than anything else) loaded with jerky, energy bars, and so on.  Rather, I keep the water for hygienic purposes --- collecting rainwater is a pain in the butt, and if we had no water for a few days, it would provide ample water for basic hygiene.  (If you can foresee a disaster coming, it is always a good idea to fill the bathtub with water, for flushing toilets.)

    And we have guns in various calibers and a fair amount of ammo.  Enough said.  A couple of fairly high-powered nitro piston air rifles too, one in 22 caliber.  Great fun to shoot out in the back yard!

    So, to sum it up, we're not nearly as well-prepared as I would like, but we are better off than the typical American household.

    Funny story: when I was a young boy, my aunt and uncle had a large basement where they kept huge quantities of canned food.  Though I never said anything to anybody about it, I thought they were stocking a fallout shelter in thoughts of having to stay in there awhile.  Then I finally probed into the question of "why all this food?".  Well... as it turned out, it had nothing to do with disaster preparedness.  You see, they were extremely frugal people, grew up during the Depression and never wasted a penny.  They would see food items they liked on sale at the grocery store... and when that happened, they stocked up with a vengeance, simply to keep their food bill down.  They retired comfortably, second home in Florida, so they must have done something right.


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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #21 on: May 03, 2021, 08:47:35 PM »
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  • When projecting your preppings, it might be worthwhile to be aware of the following fact:



    Quote from: Wikipedia
    Die Mitglieder unterhalten die 2030 Initiative, die einen Aktionsplan zur Verwirklichung der Vision einer idealen Welt im Jahr 2030 zum Ziel hat.[309]
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weltwirtschaftsforum#%C2%ABYoung_Global_Leaders%C2%BB

    The members of the "Young Global Leaders" of our Big Brother (and Henry Kissingers "son") Klaus Schwab have got an action schedule aiming to realize the vision of an ideal world in 2030.

    That's a few yours only, and the world will be ideal.


    Looks like the 2030s might be scheduled for Our Lord to return.

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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #22 on: May 03, 2021, 09:35:13 PM »
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  • Is there an issue buying products from them?  
    I guess I would avoid supporting heretics as much as possible. Meantime, I am going to check out their proximity to me, just out of interest. I reckon that Sean would have better access to suppliers than I do, but maybe not.


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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #23 on: May 03, 2021, 09:36:56 PM »
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  • It's not like funding the LDS is much worse than funding some company that probably celebrates "pride month" and pays for its employees' birth control.
    That’s true.

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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #24 on: May 04, 2021, 01:32:35 AM »
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  • I guess I would avoid supporting heretics as much as possible. Meantime, I am going to check out their proximity to me, just out of interest. I reckon that Sean would have better access to suppliers than I do, but maybe not.
    I hear what you are saying, but it's probably safe to assume that they sell all their items at or near cost plus overhead, administrative costs (hiring people to run the warehouse, etc.), and that there would be essentially no profits going into LDS coffers.  IOW, buying food from them probably doesn't help them promote their heretical religion in any measurable way.

    There is a "Bishop's [sic] Storehouse" near my home, but I thought they only served fellow LDS and, I would hope, people in some distress, regardless of creed, who come to them for help, rescue missions for natural disasters, and the like.

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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #25 on: May 04, 2021, 01:59:23 AM »
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  • Well, yes and no:
    Yes, there are plenty of companies online which I order various equipment and supplies from, but when it comes to bulk food (ie., 50 lb bags of flour, milk, pinto beans, wheat, etc), you would get clobbered from shipping costs if I were to order 500lbs of food, whereas the sect is local for pickup.
    I see what you are getting at (giving my money to a sect helps them, however incrementally), but I guess I never dwelled on it much until you made me think about it.  
    Hmm.

    Hold the bus.

    I've spoken about this MANY TIMES. How many of us can be completely self-sufficient? I mean, producing all our own equipment, material, supplies, seeds, and labor? If not, then, read my lips:

    You will be supporting atheists, heretics, pagans and all sorts of infidels and non-Catholics.

    There are NO Traditional Catholic options for 99% of the materials and equipment the average person needs to survive. In fact, it's easier to list the things which ARE available from Trad Catholic sources, than to list the things that aren't!

    Unless you are going to a Mormon temple and putting money in the collection, you are not guilty of financially supporting Mormonism (paganism, heresy, whatever you want to call it). Spending the night at a Mariott hotel is NOT donating to the Mormon church. Yes, a Mormon owns the Mariott chain, but you are getting something for your $80. It's not a financial contribution. You can't deduct it on your taxes as a charitable contribution. Right?

    God doesn't expect the impossible. Even in the 1700's, when people were much more self-sufficient than they are today, I believe it was morally acceptable to engage in commerce with heretics. How much more so today, when people aren't even 1% self-sufficient. But it's more than that. Most Catholics in the 1700's MADE THINGS and did useful trades. These goods and services could then be sold to fellow Catholics. Today, what % of men work jobs where they can point to something at the end of the day and say "I made that", "I fixed that", or "I did that"? All too few, I'm afraid. So we have to resort to non-Catholics to get goods & services that we need.

    Anyone resolving to avoid "supporting" non-Catholics, or believing support of such individuals to be a sin, had better head to the woods and begin a new life as a naked, wild animal. Because you can't get food, clothes, shoes, housing materials, or anything of the sort from Trad Catholic sources.

    And don't forget employment! How many of us would be unemployed if we could only work for Catholic organizations or companies? Over 97% of the men on this forum, I'd wager.
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #26 on: May 04, 2021, 05:03:06 PM »
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  • I guess I would avoid supporting heretics as much as possible. Meantime, I am going to check out their proximity to me, just out of interest. I reckon that Sean would have better access to suppliers than I do, but maybe not.
    We live in a pagan world at this point.  I obviously wouldn't donate but buying goods i think is probably acceptable.


     

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