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« on: August 29, 2020, 06:08:27 PM »
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  • The End of the World as We Know It
    by "Lobo"

    Preppers and survivalists have long been preparing for TEOTWAWKI and WROL, that is, without rule of law for decades. However, they have usually revolved around preconceived notions of a complete breakdown of government and law ala Mad Max; thus the term TEOTWAWKI, that is the end of the world as we know it. Most folks have been operating under the outmoded delusion of fleeing to the hills, living off the land, growing, canning, and preserving your own foods when civilization dissolves into a new dark age of lawlessness: all the while defending our homes and stores against the lawless Golden Horde. Essentially, they believe we will become a sovereign nation unto ourselves, even if said nation is only a couple of acres. Such notions are pure fantasy land!

    Even during the historic so-called Dark Ages strong and powerful chieftains arose organizing, for better or worse, into petty kingdoms and fiefdoms. Many, if not most of these kingdoms had their roots in rascals, scoundrels and rogues who ruthlessly seized power and used it to their benefit and not that of the subjugated peoples. In fact, many of the nobility of the world can trace their lineage back to such genesis. The lust for power is foundational to humans in a fallen world, both then and now.

    Times today are unprecedented in that governments at all levels are highly organized and firmly emplaced so that it is practically impossible to go against them. Some may say: not so, just look at the rioters in our cities; but one must take into account that police and other law enforcement have been told to stand down by governmental leaders, for a variety of nefarious, generally political reasons. Meantime, millions, if not billions of dollars are lost… to say nothing of the more than 30 lives lost while these “leaders” use these useful Marxist violent idiots to further their wicked agendas. Rest assured that this seemingly random chaos is precisely planned and by intricate design.

    …but what has this got to do with TEOTWAWKI? Essentially, this is by definition TEOTWAWKI, the end of the world as we know it …or better as we knew it. The world today is not the world I was born into. Not only has Liberalism slowly by slowly eroded our liberties and rights but has conditioned the people to accept the new normal, even institutionalized it in law. Those under the age of 55 years old, generally, accept the “Right” of a woman to choose, i.e. abortion and also accepted is the legitimacy of sơdơmite unions. We are also witness to the institutionalizing of gender identity in many jurisdictions, with as many as 23 different genders. In some places protected speech now includes pronoun usage to comply with these various genders. To continue within the past three months we’ve been mandated to wear masks, initially voluntary, then socially pressured and now by force of law. This was consciously designed to condition the masses to accept mandatory vaccinations. “My body, my choice” notwithstanding, we will soon be jabbed whether we like it or not under the guise of the greater good. The pattern will follow the same route as the masks, first voluntary, then socially, then by law. Additionally, we will be coerced by travel restrictions, retail shopping, jobs, through no jab, no job policies, and finally by issuance of health certificates attesting to our ναccιnє status.

    Clearly, then we are in the real sense in the popularly imagined TEOTWAWKI! It did not come through standoffs like Ruby Ridge, or the Koresh Compound, or declaration of martial law, but by largely and simply a major scare tactic CÖVÌD-19 and the ensuing rioters.  
    Now What to Do?!?!

    The first step is not to react but to act. Reaction is anticipated by the elitist, in fact relied on. Think through deliberately and soberly all options, even if few. Do this realistically, not on impulse. Men’s initial response is to get mad, sometimes to the point of blind rage; women, on the other hand, tend to cry… both are reactive emotional responses and neither is a productive response. Resist at all costs these initial reactions.

    First determine your duties of state, as a husband / wife; as a father / mother; as a provider protector in the case of father; and as nurturer and homemaker in the case of the mother. For instance as a father you have the duty to keep food on the table and roof overhead. The initial reactive response to the boss saying that you must take the jab may well be… I’ll quit first, but how does this fulfill your husband and fatherly duties? If things go as they seem to, even if you quit, you may have to be jabbed to get unemployment compensation. It may also bring your family under the ναccιnє microscope, which could be counter to your intent. Additionally, this could escalate to your having jail time and your kids being put into the foster care system… where you and they would be forced to be ναccιnαted. So what would your impulsive reactions have accomplished?

    So deliberately and REALISTICALLY determine all your options. Don’t just give up job, house and extended family for a reactionary move to another seemingly favorable State. All it takes is a signature to enact the same conditions you just left within your new home and location where for all intents and purposes you’re starting anew; this could mean lower pay, less seniority, less house and land and ultimately you could still be in the same situation.

    Investigate thoroughly all options including moving. Do your due diligence or you will be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. South Dakota, for instance, initially has appeal because of its politics and social organization; but keep in mind: it has on average 28 tornadoes a year; is geographically part of the historic Dust Bowl; its primary source of water is the Ogallala Aquifer, which is incrementally becoming depleted due to population and insufficient rains; it is a mega farm State where prime land is already tied up by Big AG with all its drifting GMO’s infecting neighboring crops; it’s growing season needed for the subsistence farming, that is, family farms is too short for long term storage and success; Finally, the  summer conditions of South Dakota and adjacent States are extremely humid and in wintertime conditions extremely cold.

    Basically, it is all a balance… You may have diverted the jab for a time, but like I say it is potentially just a signature away. In short, don’t emotionally react… act for your long term best interests are at stake.

    One final consideration and I don’t say this to say: I told you so, but there is a learning curve, a serious learning curve to growing food for the larder and not just for your summer garden salad. It something I’ve been urging since the inception of my blogs. You must have basic downhome skills and this is not something to learn under pressure when the family is relying on you for food.  In the end it comes down to plan, study, research, practice and learn necessary skills and this will take some time.

    Meantime, lay as low as possible within health and reason. Don’t make waves. Don’t offer advice or opposition at work about masks, ναccιnєs or other social or political stuff, no matter how much you may think they agree. Don’t try to convince your neighbors the detriments of mask wearing or ναccιnєs or you may be setting yourself up for a fall when you are turned in to authorities as an antiauthoritarian and subversive. Remember, everyone has equal access to the Internet for research and their research is always “better” than yours. So you won’t win over coverts but only assure job loss or snitch neighbors.

    God gave us a rational brain use it as He intended and not rely on primordial instinct like any other beasts. It could prove disastrous!

    Lobo
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #1 on: August 29, 2020, 08:33:58 PM »
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  • ...lay as low as possible within health and reason. Don’t make waves. 
    This has long been my survival m.o.  When the time comes to take action, like flee, the fewer people who notice, the better.  Resist the temptation to form an army of supporters.  Copy the underground resistants.  


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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #2 on: August 30, 2020, 03:48:08 PM »
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  • Best part of the article and the hardest for me to do.

    Meantime, lay as low as possible within health and reason. Don’t make waves. Don’t offer advice or opposition at work about masks, vaccines or other social or political stuff, no matter how much you may think they agree. Don’t try to convince your neighbors the detriments of mask wearing or vaccines or you may be setting yourself up for a fall when you are turned in to authorities as an antiauthoritarian and subversive. Remember, everyone has equal access to the Internet for research and their research is always “better” than yours. So you won’t win over coverts but only assure job loss or snitch neighbors.
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #3 on: May 02, 2021, 04:53:27 PM »
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  • Meantime, lay as low as possible within health and reason. Don’t make waves. Don’t offer advice or opposition at work about masks, ναccιnєs or other social or political stuff, no matter how much you may think they agree. Don’t try to convince your neighbors the detriments of mask wearing or ναccιnєs or you may be setting yourself up for a fall when you are turned in to authorities as an antiauthoritarian and subversive. Remember, everyone has equal access to the Internet for research and their research is always “better” than yours. So you won’t win over coverts but only assure job loss or snitch neighbors.
    If everyone had done this, we would all already be conquered and shut up in our homes.

    But because people are pushing back against all of it, more and more things are starting to happen.

    Like banning the "passports" in the 4 states that have banned them.

    Right now they are protesting in NY and let's see if they get that one removed.

    There's also been several legal battles won against forceful shots in many places:
    https://leohohmann.com/2021/04/22/digital-ναccιnє-passports-how-to-fight-back-and-win/

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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #4 on: May 02, 2021, 05:19:43 PM »
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    I told you so, but there is a learning curve, a serious learning curve to growing food for the larder and not just for your summer garden salad. It something I’ve been urging since the inception of my blogs. You must have basic downhome skills and this is not something to learn under pressure when the family is relying on you for food.  In the end it comes down to plan, study, research, practice and learn necessary skills and this will take some time.

    I have learned over time for example that I am highly skilled at herbs, neighbors call me 'an old time Dr.' With plant remedies for everything. (Neighbors being people 5 -15 acres away).
    It's one of the reasons I am back in school for medicine. I want to be not the local useless idiot but the person who is reliable for healing. I want the full thing. Treating GSW and diseased wounds. Things that will have value when TSHTF. Fake medicine will only last so long
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #5 on: May 02, 2021, 07:47:05 PM »
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  • Mathew, how did you fare during the Great Texas Freeze this past February? I remember you post some pretty desperate things that would lead one to believe you were unprepared. 

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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
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  • Mathew, how did you fare during the Great Texas Freeze this past February? I remember you post some pretty desperate things that would lead one to believe you were unprepared.

    During the Great COVID Panic of 2020 as well as the Texas Freeze we didn't have to worry about T.P. or canned goods. Or pharmaceuticals (soap, sanitizer, etc.) Unfortunately, we had to hustle to keep a stock of things like frozen foods, convenience foods, and produce/refrigerated goods. Those things are hard or impossible to "prep", unless you start a full farm.

    During the Great Texas Freeze, the biggest problem was milk. We normally buy 9 gallons a week. It requires refrigeration AND takes up a *lot* of space. I don't really have the buildings/infrastructure, nor the time & money to mess with dairy farming. You can't just buy a cow and put it on a leash attached to a stake somewhere in your yard.

    For one thing, we have lovely green grass on our acreage -- several months a year. The rest of the year is drought, in which the whole land dries up, the grass turns brown and stops growing, and huge fissures (sometimes large enough to put your fist in) open up all over the land. This goes on for MONTHS. Every single year without fail. So I'd have to buy hay for any farm animals during those drought months. And guess what? When you need to buy hay, so does everyone else! So it's harder to find AND more expensive.

    We live on the same kinds of foods as everyone else. And even when it comes to healthy natural foods, we're as spoiled as anyone else. I want avocados, lettuce, tomatoes, carrots, onions, green peppers, mushrooms, etc. year round. Some of those things don't grow well in Texas, or in our soil. And normally each of those vegetables has a season.

    Let's just say I'm not "so stupid I don't even know how stupid I am". I know so much about survival, I am well aware how limited my preparations are. I am not able/willing to spend all day practicing and raising food. That is a *huge* time commitment. I also have too much going on to take the plunge and get farm animals.

    When it comes to keeping enough food around, we're playing on "hard mode" because we're a family of 11. The more people, the quicker you go through things. We have some space for storage but A) it's limited and B) that doesn't go for refrigerator/freezer space. We haven't resorted to putting a freezer or fridge in the chapel or living room yet.
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
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    During the Great Texas Freeze, the biggest problem was milk. We normally buy 9 gallons a week. It requires refrigeration AND takes up a *lot* of space.
    Matthew, I am wondering why you would need to refrigerate milk in a Great Freeze. 


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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
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  • Matthew, I am wondering why you would need to refrigerate milk in a Great Freeze.


    It's not like we can just store it outdoors. During the Freeze itself, while we could theoretically do that, milk was hard to come by and we could easily store it in our fridges!

    Keep in mind, we're talking about 100% of our milk coming from the grocery store. If we had dairy cows, then YES it would be easy to preserve milk during a freeze event.

    BEFORE the Freeze, we couldn't store any more than 1 weeks' worth. That's my point. Maybe up north it could be done, but in December or January in Texas, milk would spoil if you tried to do that. The number of days where it doesn't go above 40 F all day? Most years, you can count these on one hand. Most snows melt in the morning. That's why this year stood out so much. The snow lasted on the ground multiple days.
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
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    Preppers and survivalists have long been preparing for TEOTWAWKI and WROL, that is, without rule of law for decades. However, they have usually revolved around preconceived notions of a complete breakdown of government and law ala Mad Max; thus the term TEOTWAWKI, that is the end of the world as we know it. Most folks have been operating under the outmoded delusion of fleeing to the hills, living off the land, growing, canning, and preserving your own foods when civilization dissolves into a new dark age of lawlessness: all the while defending our homes and stores against the lawless Golden Horde. Essentially, they believe we will become a sovereign nation unto ourselves, even if said nation is only a couple of acres. Such notions are pure fantasy land!

    Even during the historic so-called Dark Ages strong and powerful chieftains arose organizing, for better or worse, into petty kingdoms and fiefdoms. Many, if not most of these kingdoms had their roots in rascals, scoundrels and rogues who ruthlessly seized power and used it to their benefit and not that of the subjugated peoples. In fact, many of the nobility of the world can trace their lineage back to such genesis. The lust for power is foundational to humans in a fallen world, both then and now.

    Times today are unprecedented in that governments at all levels are highly organized and firmly emplaced so that it is practically impossible to go against them. Some may say: not so, just look at the rioters in our cities; but one must take into account that police and other law enforcement have been told to stand down by governmental leaders, for a variety of nefarious, generally political reasons. Meantime, millions, if not billions of dollars are lost… to say nothing of the more than 30 lives lost while these “leaders” use these useful Marxist violent idiots to further their wicked agendas. Rest assured that this seemingly random chaos is precisely planned and by intricate design.

    …but what has this got to do with TEOTWAWKI? Essentially, this is by definition TEOTWAWKI, the end of the world as we know it …or better as we knew it. The world today is not the world I was born into. Not only has Liberalism slowly by slowly eroded our liberties and rights but has conditioned the people to accept the new normal, even institutionalized it in law. Those under the age of 55 years old, generally, accept the “Right” of a woman to choose, i.e. abortion and also accepted is the legitimacy of sơdơmite unions. We are also witness to the institutionalizing of gender identity in many jurisdictions, with as many as 23 different genders. In some places protected speech now includes pronoun usage to comply with these various genders. To continue within the past three months we’ve been mandated to wear masks, initially voluntary, then socially pressured and now by force of law. This was consciously designed to condition the masses to accept mandatory vaccinations. “My body, my choice” notwithstanding, we will soon be jabbed whether we like it or not under the guise of the greater good. The pattern will follow the same route as the masks, first voluntary, then socially, then by law. Additionally, we will be coerced by travel restrictions, retail shopping, jobs, through no jab, no job policies, and finally by issuance of health certificates attesting to our ναccιnє status.

    Clearly, then we are in the real sense in the popularly imagined TEOTWAWKI! It did not come through standoffs like Ruby Ridge, or the Koresh Compound, or declaration of martial law, but by largely and simply a major scare tactic CÖVÌD-19 and the ensuing rioters.  
    Now What to Do?!?!

    The first step is not to react but to act. Reaction is anticipated by the elitist, in fact relied on. Think through deliberately and soberly all options, even if few. Do this realistically, not on impulse. Men’s initial response is to get mad, sometimes to the point of blind rage; women, on the other hand, tend to cry… both are reactive emotional responses and neither is a productive response. Resist at all costs these initial reactions.

    First determine your duties of state, as a husband / wife; as a father / mother; as a provider protector in the case of father; and as nurturer and homemaker in the case of the mother. For instance as a father you have the duty to keep food on the table and roof overhead. The initial reactive response to the boss saying that you must take the jab may well be… I’ll quit first, but how does this fulfill your husband and fatherly duties? If things go as they seem to, even if you quit, you may have to be jabbed to get unemployment compensation. It may also bring your family under the ναccιnє microscope, which could be counter to your intent. Additionally, this could escalate to your having jail time and your kids being put into the foster care system… where you and they would be forced to be ναccιnαted. So what would your impulsive reactions have accomplished?

    So deliberately and REALISTICALLY determine all your options. Don’t just give up job, house and extended family for a reactionary move to another seemingly favorable State. All it takes is a signature to enact the same conditions you just left within your new home and location where for all intents and purposes you’re starting anew; this could mean lower pay, less seniority, less house and land and ultimately you could still be in the same situation.

    Investigate thoroughly all options including moving. Do your due diligence or you will be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. South Dakota, for instance, initially has appeal because of its politics and social organization; but keep in mind: it has on average 28 tornadoes a year; is geographically part of the historic Dust Bowl; its primary source of water is the Ogallala Aquifer, which is incrementally becoming depleted due to population and insufficient rains; it is a mega farm State where prime land is already tied up by Big AG with all its drifting GMO’s infecting neighboring crops; it’s growing season needed for the subsistence farming, that is, family farms is too short for long term storage and success; Finally, the  summer conditions of South Dakota and adjacent States are extremely humid and in wintertime conditions extremely cold.

    Basically, it is all a balance… You may have diverted the jab for a time, but like I say it is potentially just a signature away. In short, don’t emotionally react… act for your long term best interests are at stake.

    One final consideration and I don’t say this to say: I told you so, but there is a learning curve, a serious learning curve to growing food for the larder and not just for your summer garden salad. It something I’ve been urging since the inception of my blogs. You must have basic downhome skills and this is not something to learn under pressure when the family is relying on you for food.  In the end it comes down to plan, study, research, practice and learn necessary skills and this will take some time.

    Meantime, lay as low as possible within health and reason. Don’t make waves. Don’t offer advice or opposition at work about masks, ναccιnєs or other social or political stuff, no matter how much you may think they agree. Don’t try to convince your neighbors the detriments of mask wearing or ναccιnєs or you may be setting yourself up for a fall when you are turned in to authorities as an antiauthoritarian and subversive. Remember, everyone has equal access to the Internet for research and their research is always “better” than yours. So you won’t win over coverts but only assure job loss or snitch neighbors.

    God gave us a rational brain use it as He intended and not rely on primordial instinct like any other beasts. It could prove disastrous!

    Lobo
    Matthew, I agree with nearly everything you said here, but it seems that you have had a change of tactics from what you wrote in the very recent past. Not long ago you advocated that we should boldly reject this mask nonsense publicly. Not criticizing, but what made you change your opinion?
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
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  • Matthew, I agree with nearly everything you said here, but it seems that you have had a change of tactics from what you wrote in the very recent past. Not long ago you advocated that we should boldly reject this mask nonsense publicly. Not criticizing, but what made you change your opinion?
    There has been a misunderstanding. The OP (which you referenced) was posted from an e-mail I received from a fellow Trad Catholic, who runs a small blog. He obviously wishes to remain αnσnymσus, hence his pen name "Lobo" which is Spanish for wolf.

    2. There might be a second misunderstanding in play here. Did you notice this thread has been necro-bumped? The OP was posted August of 2020. Quite a while ago.
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #11 on: May 03, 2021, 03:31:41 AM »
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  • I can understand Lobo's reasoning here -- if you're not going to convert someone, why paint a target on your back?

    It might be a difference of location. He doesn't live in Texas. Or Florida for that matter. He is in a much more liberal area. I honestly don't know what strategies or things I'd do differently, if I were living on the East or West Coast.

    But as it stands, there are limits to how much insanity I will put up with. AND I think with the case of masks, a lot of people are with you and secretly admire/envy you for going about maskless. It's a question of GOOD EXAMPLE. People know deep down something is gravely wrong, they just don't know what to do, how to fight it, how to phrase it, they lack fortitude, etc.

    Just for starters, I think most Americans know that masking is problematic: NO ONE, no doctor, no organization, no government, no media, no website, no one on Social Media even, pushed masks "to save lives" as recently as 2019. That's huge! Were we living in the dark ages of ignorance and apathy just 2 years ago? If so, then we're all contaminated/compromised and nothing any of us says should be taken seriously. Once those born 2020 and later learn how to talk and grow up a bit, maybe we can take THEIR advice seriously. Know what I mean?


    As for the injection, that's a bit simpler. It's a hill to die on. If you are forced in any way to take that injection, it's all over, and there's nothing else to fight for. Who cares about stuff like jobs, money, comfort when your body -- your only vessel to keep you on this earth -- is gravely damaged and/or destroyed? All those material things are useless in the next life. So when they try to force you to destroy your Mortal Coil, at the threat of losing all earthly things -- why not refuse? It's one thing to deliver your body to Martyrdom for spiritual goods. Those survive the body. But material things? They are only to service the body as long as it lasts on earth! If you're going to destroy the body in the process, then what's the point?
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
    « Reply #12 on: May 03, 2021, 04:10:57 AM »
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  • There has been a misunderstanding. The OP (which you referenced) was posted from an e-mail I received from a fellow Trad Catholic, who runs a small blog. He obviously wishes to remain αnσnymσus, hence his pen name "Lobo" which is Spanish for wolf.

    2. There might be a second misunderstanding in play here. Did you notice this thread has been necro-bumped? The OP was posted August of 2020. Quite a while ago.
    LOL, now I understand. I also see that you don’t sleep very well either. 😂
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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
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  • It's not like we can just store it outdoors. During the Freeze itself, while we could theoretically do that, milk was hard to come by and we could easily store it in our fridges!

    Keep in mind, we're talking about 100% of our milk coming from the grocery store. If we had dairy cows, then YES it would be easy to preserve milk during a freeze event.

    BEFORE the Freeze, we couldn't store any more than 1 weeks' worth. That's my point. Maybe up north it could be done, but in December or January in Texas, milk would spoil if you tried to do that. The number of days where it doesn't go above 40 F all day? Most years, you can count these on one hand. Most snows melt in the morning. That's why this year stood out so much. The snow lasted on the ground multiple days.
    Thanks for the explanation, Matthew. 

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    Re: Prepping food - The End of the World as We Know It
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  • Here’s a good list of dry bulk foods which can be purchased from the LDS sect (which has warehouses in every major city for same day purchase/pickup).

    A lot of these products have 30 year shelf lives if stored properly (food grade bucket/lid, Mylar bag sealed with hot iron, and oxygen absorbers added inside Mylar bag, stored in temp controlled environment), including dry milk.

    https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng

    Store locator:
    https://store.churchofjesuschrist.org/usa/en/store-locator
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