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Offline SeanJohnson

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Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
« on: September 04, 2023, 11:53:25 AM »
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  • "How about a nice game of chess?"

    Watch the first 35 seconds of this Hollywood movie from 1983, speaking of working in AI that can learn, and realize this was 40 years ago already:

    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #1 on: September 04, 2023, 11:59:14 AM »
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  • Continuing the theme of the first movie, Terminator 2 is released in 1991, and discusses unmanned military craft, programmed, which becomming self-aware, escape the control of their human creators:

    (1 minute long)

    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #2 on: September 04, 2023, 12:01:51 PM »
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  • A few years later, The Matrix is released, whereby humans are fully enslaved in a virtual, computer generated world which imprisons the human mind:

    "The Matrix is a computer-generated dream world created by a machine known as The Architect. It is a place where humans live their lives unaware of the state of the world outside of the simulation.0 Humans developed Artificial Intelligence but lost control of it. In desperation, humans created a nuclear winter, thinking that by blocking out the sun, they could eliminate the solar power the robots needed to survive. However, the robots adapted and now they run the ravaged world and harvest humans for bioelectric food.1 The Matrix is an integral part of the series' mythos, and much of the things we give for granted in the plot are up for interpretation.0 Matrices are a set of numbers arranged in rows and columns so as to form a rectangular array. They have wide applications in engineering, physics, economics, statistics, and various branches of mathematics"

    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #3 on: September 04, 2023, 12:08:41 PM »
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  • The plot emerging should be obvious:

    Humans will be deceived about the true nature of the world (so they can't fight back), and will be destroyed/eradicated by AI.

    The intelligence motivating AI, is, of course, Satan.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #4 on: September 04, 2023, 12:12:13 PM »
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  • Not only is "AI" a myth (we're just talking about some sophisticated programming combining many different paths and also a bit of randomization mixed in), but I believe that it's incredibly dangerous in the same way that "Ouija Boards" are.  If one begins to believe that they're interacting with some "intelligence," that opens the door for Satan to enter into the mix.


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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #5 on: September 04, 2023, 12:16:23 PM »
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  • I think it's a bit of stretch to associate all of these things, especially since Leftists used these messages for different anti-American (military bad) purposes. You can also see that automation has a longer history, such as listed here:

    https://www.history.com/news/7-early-robots-and-automatons

    The Matrix itself is claimed by its creators to be a metaphor for transsɛҳuąƖism. The elite Leftists today want to use AI in order to micromanage humanity to the point of controlling sneezes. While there are other Leftists who might have their issues with AI, they ultimately desire the same Utopian outcome.

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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #6 on: September 04, 2023, 12:21:36 PM »
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  • Not only is "AI" a myth (we're just talking about some sophisticated programming combining many different paths and also a bit of randomization mixed in), but I believe that it's incredibly dangerous in the same way that "Ouija Boards" are.  If one begins to believe that they're interacting with some "intelligence," that opens the door for Satan to enter into the mix.

    Users commonly like to think they are talking to something like C3PO and not their deceased grandmother. The latter is planned, of course, but there are plenty of ways AI can be useful without being demonically charged. The conspiracy theory crowd does a disservice to the Right with the Luddite-esque hysteria.

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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #7 on: September 04, 2023, 12:27:32 PM »
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  • Users commonly like to think they are talking to something like C3PO and not their deceased grandmother.

    Did you even bother to read what I wrote?  I clearly said that IF people start to engage with AI as if it were an intelligence, that opens up to diabolical intervention.  If they really believe that they're speaking with an "Intelligence" (which they're not), then that certainly creates an opening for the devil.  You don't have to believe you're speaking to a "deceased" person to enter into the mindset of engaging with an intelligence.  Of course, on top of that, there's nothing preventing the programmers from introducing algorithms that lead in nefarious directions.  There's nothing "Luddite" about realizing the potential for the abuse of technology; they've been planning on using technology to control people for decades now.

    https://people.com/human-interest/man-dies-by-ѕυιcιdє-after-ai-chatbot-became-his-confidante-widow-says/


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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #8 on: September 04, 2023, 12:34:04 PM »
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  • Did you even bother to read what I wrote?  I clearly said ...

    I did, and not only that, but your other posts on AI. You and Matthew both denigrate the technology for the purposes of your conspiracy theorism. AI represents an opportunity for those who wish to make use of it, but there will always be those who abuse any technology.

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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #9 on: September 20, 2023, 07:11:23 AM »
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  • And now Israel fields it’s own terminator tank, completely powered by AI, designed to seek out enemies before they can engage the tank:

    https://m.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/all-news/article-759687
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #10 on: September 20, 2023, 07:31:23 AM »
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  • And now Israel fields it’s own terminator tank, completely powered by AI, designed to seek out enemies before they can engage the tank:

    https://m.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/all-news/article-759687

    The article talks about this being Mark 4. I recall that the Israeli AI tanks operate with the help of a human controller tank. Even here, the tank requires a human hand to validate. For the earlier models, the human operator can override decisions made by the AI and I am sure it holds to the same pattern here.


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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #11 on: September 20, 2023, 09:04:46 AM »
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  • I did, and not only that, but your other posts on AI. You and Matthew both denigrate the technology for the purposes of your conspiracy theorism. AI represents an opportunity for those who wish to make use of it, but there will always be those who abuse any technology.
    They just know what they're talking about because they work in IT. Artificial intelligence has no intelligence, it's just great marketing.

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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #12 on: September 20, 2023, 10:49:34 AM »
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  • They just know what they're talking about because they work in IT. Artificial intelligence has no intelligence, it's just great marketing.

    :laugh1: Bolded is good humor. Someone having worked in "IT" or Software Development years ago is often a good indicator for an outdated source of information. The field is constantly changing and adapting to new technologies. My own company is attempting to get ahead of the AI game and we are developing our own large language models, but delivering a predictable product to the consumer is still difficult. Again, attempting to dismiss AI due to the bad advertising and hype train is a serious mistake, because even as experimental as it is, it is already having an impact on markets.

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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #13 on: September 20, 2023, 11:18:36 AM »
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  • :laugh1: Bolded is good humor. Someone having worked in "IT" or Software Development years ago is often a good indicator for an outdated source of information. The field is constantly changing and adapting to new technologies.

    What are you babbling about?  I'm currently active in IT, as a Systems Architect also serving as App Architect and Development lead, and not just from "years ago".

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    Re: Predictive Programming About AI in 1983
    « Reply #14 on: September 20, 2023, 12:08:25 PM »
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  • What are you babbling about?  I'm currently active in IT, as a Systems Architect also serving as App Architect and Development lead, and not just from "years ago".

    Ok, guy. I was talking about a rule of thumb, but let's make everything about you. You have so much time to post on CathInfo that anyone could be mistaken about your role as Dev Lead. Even so, it's not my fault that your company apparently has nothing to do with emerging technologies, but old programmers often get stuck in their ways and opinions. Just look at practically any subject you feel strongly about on this forum and the way you hound those that oppose your dogmas.