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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Catholic Bunker => Topic started by: Gray2023 on May 22, 2025, 03:40:46 PM
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It is really sad to see many Catholic Churches in Baltimore, Maryland going up for sale. I think many were built at the end of the 19th century.
Does anyone know anyone who can by up old churches? :cowboy:
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Several Catholic churches in Baltimore are currently on the market for sale due to a restructuring plan within the Archdiocese of Baltimore. This plan aims to consolidate parishes and streamline operations, leading to the closure of some churches. The Shrine of the Little Flower was recently closed and is now available for purchase. The Archdiocese is also selling other Catholic churches as part of this initiative.
Key Points:
- Archdiocese Restructuring:
The Archdiocese of Baltimore is undergoing a plan to merge and streamline parishes, resulting in some churches being closed and put up for sale.
[li]Impact of Closure:
The plan aims to allow parishes to focus on their core mission and ministry, while also addressing the financial burden of maintaining aging infrastructure.
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[li]Specific Examples:
The Shrine of the Little Flower is one example of a church that has been closed and is now on the market, and other Catholic churches are also being sold as part of the Archdiocese's plan.
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[li]Additional Resources:
You can find more information about this initiative and potential properties on the Archdiocese of Baltimore website (https://www.archbalt.org/seek-the-city-newly-formed-parishes/), and on sites like LoopNet (https://www.loopnet.com/search/churches/baltimore-md/for-sale/) and Showcase.com (https://www.showcase.com/md/churches/for-sale/). [/li][/list]
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It is really sad to see many Catholic Churches in Baltimore, Maryland going up for sale. I think many were built at the end of the 19th century.
Does anyone know anyone who can by up old churches? :cowboy:
What about Bp. Sanborn’s group? I’m not saying they have the $$$, but perhaps there are people in the area who are interested. If not interested in buying the whole building, maybe items can be salvaged.
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What about Bp. Sanborn’s group? I’m not saying they have the $$$, but perhaps there are people in the area who are interested. If not interested in buying the whole building, maybe items can be salvaged.
Thank you for the suggestion. I sent an email to Father Bayer.
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So, traditional Catholic groups can't seem to buy these churches directly. I am not sure I understand how it works, but there seems to be a lot of red tape.
It is so sad to see these buildings fall into the hands of people, who just do not care.
Anybody have any other ideas on how to save buildings like this? Many big cities across the nation are doing the same thing, selling off Catholic Churches.
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If there's enough faithful and the building doesn't need major structural repair, then go for it.
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There’s not much hope of the novus ordo selling to a traditional group other than maybe the FSSP. It would have to be arranged secretly through a third or fourth party.
There is also not much desire for a church in an urban area. Most of these churches are located in what were once thriving immigrant communities with families, businesses, schools, shops, parks, municipal offices, manufacturing areas, walkable or a short tram ride from homes. Sadly, the blue collar work has vanished from American cities along with the ethnic communities. Many churches are left behind in what is now ghetto or deserted wasteland, home to vagrants, drunks, drug addicts, criminal elements. While these people need to become Catholic, they are not places where fathers want to bring their families for Mass. They’re often unsafe, have no parking, prone to vandalism, in an area with no jobs, no schools, no stores, not family friendly. Furthermore, the buildings require a huge investment of money beyond purchase and a coat of paint. They aren’t up to modern fire and safety code, often require things like asbestos abatement, removal of lead paint and lead-lined pipes, replacement of plumbing and electrical wiring, installation of restrooms, sprinklers, ramps, etc. Catholic families are not going to buy up homes in equally poor condition to live in. That would be wonderful, but the costs are prohibitive. The churches and neighborhoods are not in condition to be renovated in, say, even a year, and be in usable condition. That’s why I’m suggesting already existing chapels now meeting in homes, hotels, rented facilities look for less expensive buildings, smaller, easier to make into a chapel. It can be decorated and worked upon while already in use. There needs to be a parking lot because many people come from widely scattered areas and drive long distances. It’s 2025 reality. Few, if any parishioners are going to be walking or taking non-existent public transit to Mass.
Have you been to Baltimore recently? Except for the harbor area and the immediate vicinity of John’s Hopkins, the city is pretty much a drug-riddled slum.
But again, it’s quite possible there are treasures to be had tucked away in storage in some of these formerly magnificent churches.
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There’s not much hope of the novus ordo selling to a traditional group other than maybe the FSSP. It would have to be arranged secretly through a third or fourth party.
There is also not much desire for a church in an urban area. Most of these churches are located in what were once thriving immigrant communities with families, businesses, schools, shops, parks, municipal offices, manufacturing areas, walkable or a short tram ride from homes. Sadly, the blue collar work has vanished from American cities along with the ethnic communities. Many churches are left behind in what is now ghetto or deserted wasteland, home to vagrants, drunks, drug addicts, criminal elements. While these people need to become Catholic, they are not places where fathers want to bring their families for Mass. They’re often unsafe, have no parking, prone to vandalism, in an area with no jobs, no schools, no stores, not family friendly. Furthermore, the buildings require a huge investment of money beyond purchase and a coat of paint. They aren’t up to modern fire and safety code, often require things like asbestos abatement, removal of lead paint and lead-lined pipes, replacement of plumbing and electrical wiring, installation of restrooms, sprinklers, ramps, etc. Catholic families are not going to buy up homes in equally poor condition to live in. That would be wonderful, but the costs are prohibitive. The churches and neighborhoods are not in condition to be renovated in, say, even a year, and be in usable condition. That’s why I’m suggesting already existing chapels now meeting in homes, hotels, rented facilities look for less expensive buildings, smaller, easier to make into a chapel. It can be decorated and worked upon while already in use. There needs to be a parking lot because many people come from widely scattered areas and drive long distances. It’s 2025 reality. Few, if any parishioners are going to be walking or taking non-existent public transit to Mass.
Have you been to Baltimore recently? Except for the harbor area and the immediate vicinity of John’s Hopkins, the city is pretty much a drug-riddled slum.
But again, it’s quite possible there are treasures to be had tucked away in storage in some of these formerly magnificent churches.
Good points. I have been around the city to different spots. I don't live too far away. I wish I was independently wealthy, so I could save these churches. I guess we just have to wait and see what God has planned, and that might include losing them. :(
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I do know that the New Order/ all parishes went through what is known as "Restructure". Which means half of churches/buildings, clergy will be cut out. One Priest per 4 parishes. (Coalition for Cancelled priests knew this long in advance). Next, all parishes are now known as Civl Society Organizations that come under the U.N. So, maybe you can start with the U. N.
Well, who is paying attention?! And remember that the Coalition for Cancelled Priest are: 1: Are not priest, they lie 2. They don't need your money, another lie
3. They say or did at one time on billboards, they wanted to be reinstated, another lie.
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Does anyone know how to start a non profit organization?
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I know it’s sad. I helped to save churches. The church we saved ended up being the most heretic church in our area. Then I learned. It not the buildings. We are the church.
I think about the mass rocks and Mass homes , fields in USA and Ireland. Our faith starts at home with our families.
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Does anyone know how to start a non profit organization?
Yes, someone knows.
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I guess we just have to wait and see what God has planned, and that might include losing them. :(
We're going to lose a lot more than some abandoned buildings close to one of the main hubs of the Demonocracy. Even if one has the money, using it to buy such properties at this late hour would be a poor use of God's gifts. The buildings are no longer used/necessary because people no longer have the Faith; the hour of reckoning approaches and there are many more important things to consider -- like establishing a solid safe-haven far, far from such godless population centers. Godspeed.
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Yes, someone knows.
This is why I get frustrated with this form of communication. :cowboy:
Let me rephrase the question.
Does anyone have a recommendation of a lawyer who specializes in starting a non profit?
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We're going to lose a lot more than some abandoned buildings close to one of the main hubs of the Demonocracy. Even if one has the money, using it to buy such properties at this late hour would be a poor use of God's gifts. The buildings are no longer used/necessary because people no longer have the Faith; the hour of reckoning approaches and there are many more important things to consider -- like establishing a solid safe-haven far, far from such godless population centers. Godspeed.
Why not start something in the very epicenter of where Catholicism began in America?
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Why not start something in the very epicenter of where Catholicism began in America?
St. Augustine, FL? Beautiful, but very pricey! Why there?
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Sorry I wasn't specific enough Baltimore held the first Catholic diocese in America.
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Why not start something in the very epicenter of where Catholicism began in America?
Why not set up something in Israel?
Baltimore is a complete sh*thole and is right next to DC, one of the main HQs of the Satanic Regime. The entire eastern seaboard will soon be more or less annihilated and rightfully so. Do what you want, but I would get and stay as far away as possible from such places and certainly wouldn't waste any of my limited resources trying to pursue what I believe to be a completely pointless endeavor.
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St. Augustine, FL? Beautiful, but very pricey!
I am from just up the road from St. Auggie. It is not nearly as pricey as Baltimore and pretty much everything north thereof. Northern Florida is far from perfect, to be sure, but I would rather be there than anywhere along the eastern seaboard.
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Why not set up something in Israel?
Baltimore is a complete sh*thole and is right next to DC, one of the main HQs of the Satanic Regime. The entire eastern seaboard will soon be more or less annihilated and rightfully so. Do what you want, but I would get and stay as far away as possible from such places and certainly wouldn't waste any of my limited resources trying to pursue what I believe to be a completely pointless endeavor.
Your encouragement is noted. :cowboy:
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Why not set up something in Israel?
You know why.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/7uL555xWQeE
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Sorry I wasn't specific enough Baltimore held the first Catholic diocese in America.
St. Augustine is the site of the first ever Catholic Mass in what is now the USA.
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St. Augustine is the site of the first ever Catholic Mass in what is now the USA.
How interesting! I have never heard of this before. I need to look into this now! Thank you for mentioning it! :cowboy:
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How interesting! I have never heard of this before. I need to look into this now! Thank you for mentioning it! :cowboy:
https://missionandshrine.org/
Northern Florida is rather lovely and there's a lot of good history. I was raised there, so I am biased, but the constant flow of visitors and the many families relocating confirms such a take.