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Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: CathMom37 on May 29, 2010, 11:52:07 PM
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: Matthew on May 30, 2010, 12:00:41 AM
Total destruction of life forms on the eastern coast of the US -- that doesn't sound good!

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Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: MaterDominici on May 30, 2010, 12:18:21 AM
I was hoping that the site would look completely unreliable, but unfortunately it doesn't.

I heard a report a few days ago where a scientist from LSU was out trying to collect data on the situation and was unsure why they weren't seeing more oil floating at the surface.

All of this just ahead of hurricane season!

 :scared2:
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: CathMom37 on May 30, 2010, 12:26:26 AM
Here is one reply from a friend- he makes some good points, and since I of course am completely clueless, I will just say it is something I will be watching closely. Maybe via the tv stations on those regions.
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I don't know Press TV but given the source they cite one can expect a
lot of the comments are politically motivated.

From what I've read there are issues with the dispersant used but I've
read nothing about phase transition. Since the composition of the
dispersant is a trade secret we don't know the exact composition and
thus things are a bit uncertain. If it contains only surfactants phase
transition is unlikely. If there are also solvents in the sense of
things like gasoline, ether or chlorocarbons the issue would be somewhat
more significant.

"Total destruction" for the eastern US? Unlikely. Serious issues
dispersant or no? Yes.

Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on May 30, 2010, 12:26:45 AM
One thing about all that oil that is gushing out proves that
fossil fuel coming from prehistoric forests, and animals is a
myth. The earth is constantly replenishing oil all the
time, and will never dry up.
The Gulf of Mexico sea floor is delicate, and unstable.
Oil drilling should never have been allowed.
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: Elizabeth on May 30, 2010, 12:46:52 PM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

The Gulf of Mexico sea floor is delicate, and unstable.
Oil drilling should never have been allowed.


true, RC1953

I have been wondering and wondering at the lack of visible oil in all of the photos I've seen.  Now this explains things, if true.
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: Telesphorus on May 30, 2010, 12:47:50 PM
PressTV is from Iran.
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: Matthew on May 30, 2010, 02:53:49 PM
Don't discount the story just because it's from Iran.

Don't forget that Iranians are highly intelligent -- they are ethnically persian, and are racially closer to Europeans than you might think.
(Dylan? Maybe he could fill us in on the details here!)

Why would the Iranian press lie about something like this? It's not like it's going to CAUSE a catastrophe to happen. If they call for one, and it doesn't happen, how are they "ahead", even if they're our enemy?

Matthew


Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: MyrnaM on May 30, 2010, 03:40:06 PM


Dare I say "We report you decide"  

http://tinyurl.com/28rq8ls

Disclaimer:  All you neo con Fox fearers not to worry the link does't take you to fox, I just borrowed their slogan.  
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: Matthew on May 30, 2010, 04:33:58 PM
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: MyrnaM on May 30, 2010, 04:55:50 PM
Thanks for pasting the text, but what really got me is that picture, it really looks like blood.  
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: CathMom37 on May 31, 2010, 12:09:28 AM
Me too Myrna- the pics really bring it all together.
Great info Matthew-wow. I know we arent supposed to think too hard on this stuff, but this sounds spot on, I have to say.

 

Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: CathMom37 on May 31, 2010, 12:11:04 AM
oops- Myrna, just realized it was you that posted that likn. Thanks
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: Vandaler on June 01, 2010, 02:46:07 PM
This is not about Press.TV, which is not really in cause here but rather whither there really was a report from Russia's Ministry of Natural Resources and on what data this report relied to come to it's conclusion.

For instance, without justification, the Russian scientist report claims that  BP is pumping millions of gallons of Corexit 9500 while the numbers in the USA Today, today are rather of 820,000 gallons

Quote
In any event, as oil continued leaking into the Gulf on Monday, the debate over the semi-experimental use of dispersants in the largest oil spill in U.S. history continues. So far, more than 820,000 gallons of Corexit 9500 have been used in the Gulf. The Environmental Protection Agency had asked BP to stop using it or explain why it couldn't. BP said the dispersant was the best tool and reduced the amount it was using by at least half

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-05-31-oil-dispersants_N.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-05-31-oil-dispersants_N.htm)


With such discrepancy, it's difficult to take seriously the study and one needs to ask the question, why would the Russians know better the quantities used of this product.

I think it's far to early to rate the importance and the consequences of this disaster.
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: Catholic Samurai on June 01, 2010, 03:40:18 PM
The bought and paid for radio talk show hosts are trying to do some damage control for BP (like they ALWAYS do for oil companies), saying that there are microbes and plants in the ocean that thrive off petroleum, which is true, but that process takes YEARS to break down small amounts of petroleum. You would have to introduce HUGE quantities of microbial life to the spill site, and I dont think BP is going to spend any money trying to breed or collect that bacteria.

In the meantime, I think if the fact that we are going to see MORE marine species go extinct doesnt make people start thinking, then maybe the fact that their seafood menu will get alot smaller will.
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: Catholic Samurai on June 01, 2010, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
One thing about all that oil that is gushing out proves that
fossil fuel coming from prehistoric forests, and animals is a
myth. The earth is constantly replenishing oil all the
time, and will never dry up.
The Gulf of Mexico sea floor is delicate, and unstable.
Oil drilling should never have been allowed.


We dont even need to drill for oil. WE CAN GROW IT.

I am proud to say that my beloved Texas is the first state to process seaweed and turn it into a petroleum substance which is just as efficient and is cleaner than regular oil. Needless to say, the oil companies are not pleased since it opens up the oil market to farmers and provides yet another means of energy independence for all.

  :farmer: :farmer: :farmer: :farmer:
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: Lybus on June 01, 2010, 09:09:19 PM
Quote from: Catholic Samurai
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
One thing about all that oil that is gushing out proves that
fossil fuel coming from prehistoric forests, and animals is a
myth. The earth is constantly replenishing oil all the
time, and will never dry up.
The Gulf of Mexico sea floor is delicate, and unstable.
Oil drilling should never have been allowed.


We dont even need to drill for oil. WE CAN GROW IT.

I am proud to say that my beloved Texas is the first state to process seaweed and turn it into a petroleum substance which is just as efficient and is cleaner than regular oil. Needless to say, the oil companies are not pleased since it opens up the oil market to farmers and provides yet another means of energy independence for all.

  :farmer: :farmer: :farmer: :farmer:


Dang that is cool; never heard of that. You'll have to tell me more next time you get online.
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: MyrnaM on June 01, 2010, 09:27:04 PM
We as Catholic all know we shouldn't be alarmed anymore by what we hear in the news, internet or wherever you choose to get your information; but I think we all have loved ones that need prayers and conversions, that is my main concern.  

It just seems we are getting closer and closer.  Which means we have to pray harder and harder.  
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 01, 2010, 10:10:16 PM
Quote from: Lybus
Quote from: Catholic Samurai
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
One thing about all that oil that is gushing out proves that
fossil fuel coming from prehistoric forests, and animals is a
myth. The earth is constantly replenishing oil all the
time, and will never dry up.
The Gulf of Mexico sea floor is delicate, and unstable.
Oil drilling should never have been allowed.


We dont even need to drill for oil. WE CAN GROW IT.

I am proud to say that my beloved Texas is the first state to process seaweed and turn it into a petroleum substance which is just as efficient and is cleaner than regular oil. Needless to say, the oil companies are not pleased since it opens up the oil market to farmers and provides yet another means of energy independence for all.

  :farmer: :farmer: :farmer: :farmer:


Dang that is cool; never heard of that. You'll have to tell me more next time you get online.


I am now back online to explain my belief that oil is not a
fossil fuel, but is constantly replenished in the deep bowls
of the earth. This explains why oil fields never dry up.
The fossil fuel myth was invented by the oil companies.
peak oil is also a myth.
This is the belief of Jeff Rense of Rense.com
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: Catholic Samurai on June 02, 2010, 09:42:00 PM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
Quote from: Lybus
Quote from: Catholic Samurai
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
One thing about all that oil that is gushing out proves that
fossil fuel coming from prehistoric forests, and animals is a
myth. The earth is constantly replenishing oil all the
time, and will never dry up.
The Gulf of Mexico sea floor is delicate, and unstable.
Oil drilling should never have been allowed.


We dont even need to drill for oil. WE CAN GROW IT.

I am proud to say that my beloved Texas is the first state to process seaweed and turn it into a petroleum substance which is just as efficient and is cleaner than regular oil. Needless to say, the oil companies are not pleased since it opens up the oil market to farmers and provides yet another means of energy independence for all.

  :farmer: :farmer: :farmer: :farmer:


Dang that is cool; never heard of that. You'll have to tell me more next time you get online.


I am now back online to explain my belief that oil is not a
fossil fuel, but is constantly replenished in the deep bowls
of the earth. This explains why oil fields never dry up.
The fossil fuel myth was invented by the oil companies.
peak oil is also a myth.
This is the belief of Jeff Rense of Rense.com


I think I know what you mean.

The reason oil will never run out is because it is made from organic matter that has been buried over the ages by more decomposed organic matter (dirt/earth) which turns the carbon based material into petroleum at a certain temperature and atmospheric pressure. Earth is constantly expanding because plants absorb solar energy and turn it into organic matter which is broken down by insects and microbes into soil which is eventually covered by more soil until the chemical reaction begins. But petroleum is NOT a fuel source to be used because of the very high levels of heavy metals and nitrates even after processing into gasoline. The "fertilizer" that we make from petroleum is what is poisoning our soils and groundwater right now. The new bio-fuels and ethanol that are being produced have little or no heavy metals or nitrates and the byproducts and products of bio-fuel dont poison soil or groundwater.
Title: Oil Spill threatens 'Total Destruction"
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on June 03, 2010, 08:45:51 PM
What would make it even worse would be a hurricane. They're predicting an above-average hurricane season in the atlantic this year so that could be pretty bad.