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Offline poche

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No Catholic Priest
« on: June 18, 2020, 01:47:19 AM »
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    •  The justices blocked Gutierrez's execution about an hour before he could have been put to death. Gutierrez's attorneys had argued his religious rights are being violated because the prison system won't allow a chaplain to accompany him in the death chamber.  

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-halts-texas-execution-ruben-gutierrez-kim-kardashian-west-responds/

    How do you feel about them not allowing a priest for this man about to die?
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    Offline Aristotl

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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #1 on: June 18, 2020, 01:51:47 AM »
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    • Wow, that is surprising even Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City Bombing had a Priest. 
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #2 on: June 18, 2020, 02:52:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: Aristotl on June 18, 2020, 01:51:47 AM
    Wow, that is surprising even Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City Bombing had a Priest.
    Yes, but that was 19 years ago. America has changed in 19 years. 
    By the way, what do you mean to imply by saying even Timothy McVeigh?

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    Offline TKGS

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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #3 on: June 18, 2020, 11:23:19 AM »
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    • If this just happened, I'm sure the reason they wouldn't let a priest accompany the convict is because of the Chinese virus hysteria rather than some anti-religious bias.
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #4 on: June 18, 2020, 11:55:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on June 18, 2020, 11:23:19 AM
    If this just happened, I'm sure the reason they wouldn't let a priest accompany the convict is because of the Chinese virus hysteria rather than some anti-religious bias.
    If the man is going to die why worry about this virus.
    The real reason for this is because of their own anti religious bias. 
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #5 on: June 19, 2020, 06:06:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on June 18, 2020, 11:55:35 PM
    If the man is going to die why worry about this virus.
    The real reason for this is because of their own anti religious bias.
    Have you not seen any of the news at all?  They won't let priests into hospitals to give the Last Rites to dying patients either.  
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #6 on: June 19, 2020, 08:05:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on June 19, 2020, 06:06:03 AM
    Have you not seen any of the news at all?  They won't let priests into hospitals to give the Last Rites to dying patients either.  

    Depends on where you're at.  In Ohio, my brother received Last Rites a few weeks ago.  They had a policy where they would let one person in at a time and clergy/priests were among those allowed in.  Of course, the priest was forced to wear a mask, etc.
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #7 on: June 21, 2020, 08:21:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Aristotl on June 18, 2020, 01:51:47 AM
    Wow, that is surprising even Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City Bombing had a Priest.
    A priest came to see McVeigh. He spent in Father's face and refused him. 
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #8 on: June 26, 2020, 07:19:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: dymphnaw on June 21, 2020, 08:21:13 PM
    A priest came to see McVeigh. He spent in Father's face and refused him.
    Seriously where did you read this???? I have been and out of the U.S. since then but I never heard this. Was this factual I heard that he has asked for a Priest? I remember the interview the Priest gave and there was no mention of this incident. If so that is sad  A excellent Book on this subject is God goes to Murders Row. True story from Kentucky
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #9 on: June 26, 2020, 08:08:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Aristotl on June 26, 2020, 07:19:50 AM
    Seriously where did you read this???? I have been and out of the U.S. since then but I never heard this. Was this factual I heard that he has asked for a Priest? I remember the interview the Priest gave and there was no mention of this incident. If so that is sad  A excellent Book on this subject is God goes to Murders Row. True story from Kentucky

    Right.  I also heard the story that McVeigh himself had asked for the priest.  My guess is that he was just a patsy and didn't actually do the bombing.
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #10 on: June 26, 2020, 07:48:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: dymphnaw on June 21, 2020, 08:21:13 PM
    A priest came to see McVeigh. He spent in Father's face and refused him.
    The priest told the story and was very somber about it. 
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #11 on: June 26, 2020, 08:44:55 PM »
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    • Thank you I wasn't aware of this.
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #12 on: June 27, 2020, 12:01:27 AM »
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    • Quote from: dymphnaw on June 26, 2020, 07:48:25 PM
    The priest told the story and was very somber about it.
    Where is he today? Unless we have some kind of revelation we don't know. It doesn't look good. Which is why we should pray for the repose of his soul. 
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #13 on: June 27, 2020, 12:30:57 AM »
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    • Quote from: TKGS on June 19, 2020, 06:06:03 AM
    Have you not seen any of the news at all?  They won't let priests into hospitals to give the Last Rites to dying patients either.  
    Yes, but Poche is correct here.
    Quote from: poche on June 18, 2020, 11:55:35 PM
    If the (man) patient is going to die why worry about this virus.
    The real reason for this is because of their own anti religious bias.
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    Re: No Catholic Priest
    « Reply #14 on: June 27, 2020, 12:47:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: dymphnaw on June 21, 2020, 08:21:13 PM
    A priest came to see McVeigh. He spent in Father's face and refused him.
    what is the meaning of the bolded phrase?
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