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Offline gseu345

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« on: October 22, 2015, 06:34:07 PM »
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  • (As suggested in the Introduction thread, I'm opening a separate thread for this.)

    I'm writing from Hungary (Europe) and I would like to ask advice in a 'gang stalking' case. More precisely, I'm looking for a (preferably international) Catholic organization that could provide some kind of supervision in this situation.

    This has been going on since years and authorities can't really help as they even have to catch up with this activity. (Googling it might give quite 'tinfoilhatty' results, there is quite much disinfo on the web so it's hard to get an accurate picture. I think it's a combination of criminal, demonic and technological harassment and my experience suggests that it is done by cults tied to the New Age movement.)

    I have searched the web for a Catholic anti-cult network but I only found Protestant organizations, which deal with spiritual matters quite differently than Catholic organizations.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!
    +JMJ+


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    « Reply #1 on: October 22, 2015, 11:27:38 PM »
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  • Is this just you that is having the problem or is it people in the neighborhood or what?


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    « Reply #2 on: October 23, 2015, 11:15:10 AM »
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  • Well, this is not an isolated case, it is happening to quite a lot of people worldwide. As for my neighborhood, it would seem logical that others are also targeted but I wasn't able to meet other targets yet.

    My goal was not to raise awareness to the issue, although it is good to be aware of it to a certain extent. I think the following article is a good 'need-to-know' on gang stalking:
    Lynn Stuter - Are you really crazy or are you gang-stalked?
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter78.htm

    By googling this, one would encounter a lot of sites with new age pseudo-spiritual mumbo-jumbo. It is not a coincidence as during the years I have collected enough circuмstantial evidence that suggest New Age related cults to be responsible for this.
    Sadly, I must add that even churches aren't free of gang stalking (I can only speak of Novus Ordo parishes though as TLM is currently out of reach for me).

    I think however, gang stalking is unlikely to happen to people who know about spiritual warfare and do frequent the Sacraments. If a family practices their Catholic faith, family members can't be turned against each other. Unfortunately my family was quite into New Age "spirituality", so they were easily turned against me.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 23, 2015, 11:27:00 AM »
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  •  :tinfoil:
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #4 on: October 23, 2015, 11:49:38 PM »
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  • The only information I have run across related to gang-stalking appears on disinformation web sites that seem specifically designed to mix truth with obvious fiction in order to turn people away from truth. These are essentially behavioral engineering "news" sites that feed new memes into the public consciousness, in efforts to further condition and control mass consciousness. PsyOps and propaganda, essentially.

    That said, your posts may in fact be a similar effort to discredit the content that appears on these forums. Traditional Catholics are an obvious target for the soft communist disinformation propaganda machine, after all.

    The only people I have met who share similar experiences were people damaged by long-term  intravenous crystal methamphetamine addiction. Paranoid schizophrenia was the result.

    If people are in fact stalking you, which in fact may be the case, I would arm myself with a gun after learning how to use it properly. A long concealable blade or stun gun may be equally effective. If someone tries to hurt you, then defend yourself. If these stalkers never actually attack or harm you, you may want to smile every time you see one, and invite them in for coffee or tea.

    Or, learn to stalk the stalker. Capture one. See how it works. And pray for them.



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    « Reply #5 on: October 24, 2015, 04:23:57 AM »
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  • IS THIS POST FOR REAL? And the comments?

    I mean, it's like a purchased follower of GaJєωski got lost on the wrong forum.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #6 on: October 24, 2015, 04:51:28 AM »
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  • Quote from: gseu345
    (As suggested in the Introduction thread, I'm opening a separate thread for this.)

    I'm writing from Hungary (Europe) and I would like to ask advice in a 'gang stalking' case. More precisely, I'm looking for a (preferably international) Catholic organization that could provide some kind of supervision in this situation.

    This has been going on since years and authorities can't really help as they even have to catch up with this activity. (Googling it might give quite 'tinfoilhatty' results, there is quite much disinfo on the web so it's hard to get an accurate picture. I think it's a combination of criminal, demonic and technological harassment and my experience suggests that it is done by cults tied to the New Age movement.)

    I have searched the web for a Catholic anti-cult network but I only found Protestant organizations, which deal with spiritual matters quite differently than Catholic organizations.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!
    +JMJ+

    It sounds like maybe you should hire a private investigator, if you're really sure someone is stalking you.  That way, your PI could be stalking them, like turning the tables on them.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 24, 2015, 05:56:55 AM »
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    "Solutions  [edit]

    Gang stalking and electronic harassment are crimes that cannot be prevented."

    ( http://www.gangstalkingwiki.com/ )

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    « Reply #8 on: October 24, 2015, 07:55:20 AM »
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  • I'd like to thank everybody for the input. Again, my point wasn't really to prove or disprove the existence of gang stalking or discuss it in length, rather to seek input from someone who _knows_ about this and could offer reasonable help.

    It is highly understandable to have contempt and reservations about the topic. I believe that I can prove beyond sensible doubt with photographs and hours of video footage that I took over the years that this is happening to me. It is not my point as I'm not ready at this moment to share pictures or videos online. (As stalkers inevitably commit errors, I found docuмenting everything the best counter-strategy.)

    I have mailed the late Fr. Nicholas Gruner about the subject and he gave me advice on the spiritual side of this (what sacramentals to use), although I didn't ask about "temporal" help.
    It is true that most gang stalking related information is found on 'fringe' sites. There is considerable alternative and mainstream media coverage though. Nevertheless it still needs very much discernment as I can't really point to an article that I consider 100% accurate.

    I can very well understand if moderators don't want to present information that can be viewed as 'fringe'. I'm sorry if I give such an impression, I was even a bit reluctant to open a separate topic for this. I can fully understand if a decision is made to delete this.

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    « Reply #9 on: October 24, 2015, 08:12:57 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    "Solutions  [edit]

    Gang stalking and electronic harassment are crimes that cannot be prevented."

    ( http://www.gangstalkingwiki.com/ )

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    I personally think that sites that present unbelievable assertions that aren't supported by verifiable sources aren't really credible and should be treated with contempt, if not suspicion.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 24, 2015, 09:08:50 AM »
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  • I still think the OP is posting here to intentionally discredit these forums.

    I am routinely harassed by little green aliens, sasquatch, and purple unicorns. I think I will go to a traditional Catholic web forum to ask for help.

    I suspect another aspect to this is that brown shirts and stasi informants are fast becoming a new reality in the US. Taking the bull by the horns and building a framework to make people who complain about informants appear "nuts" could be quite beneficial to a pro-communist movement. This falls under the category of mass psychological conditioning for future events. I see this type of conditioning frequently in the mainstream propaganda that's distributed online and on TV. The gαy agenda, vaccines, and water fluoridation providing obvious examples.


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    « Reply #11 on: October 24, 2015, 10:12:59 AM »
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  • I don't quite understand the post and I think it is a suspect post.  Apparently, there are some forum users that are suckered into it.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #12 on: October 24, 2015, 10:55:42 PM »
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  • We're wasting a lot of troll food on 2 or 3 of them right now.