Author Topic: Lets do something then (Read 6281 times)

copticruiser · « **on:** February 18, 2011, 01:23:15 AM »

If we are aware of possible dollar collapse, high food prices, even future chastiments or war. Would it not work if a managable amount of catholic families ( some screening necessary) got together and just lived off the land? We could homeschool our kids, get a traditional priest to say mass at least once a month, build cabins, hunt moose, study our catholic faith, live off welfare if we had too and grow mega gardens? Just an idea. Apparently there is a group called the Beatitudes in France that do that. We know a priest (not really one though as they have their own pope) from The Magnificant in Quebec. Those guys are soooooooo self efficient. They have it all and need nothing. Smart very smart. Im not the gal to organize it but boy would I love it if 5000 traditional catholics moved into my area ( which is fairly affordable) and scared the living (Im tempted to say something here) mm mm out of the local Charismatic Novus Order donate to our cause group. What a pleasant thought!!!

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #1 on:** February 18, 2011, 11:02:14 AM »

I would start small...building from there...slowly...and only if necessary and/or desirable...

We will all need the help of others as we enter and pass through the heart of this mega-storm, so there is no time like the present to begin forming useful alliances/relationships.

Godspeed to you and yours, Annie :)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #2 on:** February 18, 2011, 11:39:41 AM »

FWIW, I think such cooperation is going to prove vital, so, in tht sense, I think your general idea is a good one. May Our Lady and her mother, who is also your patroness, guard and guide you, helping your ideas bear fruit according to God's holy will. Time is short, to be sure, but Our Lady can get things done regardless of any obstacles.

copticruiser · « **Reply #3 on:** February 19, 2011, 12:03:23 AM »

As usual I want to much too fast. We must remember John Vianny who simply prayed in his empty church had it filled in no time. Not sure why we have the inspirations that we do but if God has a reason a purpose for it we pray his will be done. We have to be so careful that we dont put our will in front of Gods. In the meantime I personally know there is a reason why some of us have this strong desire to follow the Catholic faith, to dissociate from the world, to grow our own clean food, and raise our own animals or find someone else who does. Homeschooling too I find is a Huge inspiration that seems to safeguard Gods people from our very immoral society. No doubt God is working I hope we can hear and act upon his voice. Annie

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #4 on:** February 19, 2011, 07:29:32 AM »

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As usual I want too much too fast.

That is quite normal and not necessarily a bad thing. At present, more than a little urgency is necessary, as the speed of events that will work against such plans is increasing. Those who wait too long will be unable to execute whatever plans they are considering, or will, at least, find it increasingly difficult, if not impossible, to put their ideas into practice.

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I personally know there is a reason why some of us have this strong desire to follow the Catholic faith, to dissociate from the world, to grow our own clean food, and raise our own animals or find someone else who does...No doubt God is working I hope we can hear and act upon his voice.

Agreed.

FWIW, I am presently a teacher/SAT tutor, but have done MANY different things over the years, including quite a bit of back-breaking manual labor. If you see fit to make use of it, my email address is gladius_veritatis@yahoo.com.

Eamon

MaterDominici · « **Reply #5 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:53:24 PM »

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I love it if 5000 traditional catholics moved into my area ...

A big problem with such ideas is that most would like the idea of other Catholics moving into their area, but not many are willing to be the ones who actually move ... especially if the location is presently unestablished.

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I figure I don't want to move north as I don't like cold weather and I can't move south without learning another language, so I'm stuck where I am.

(That, and I rather like it here.)

MyrnaM · « **Reply #6 on:** February 19, 2011, 02:29:57 PM »

CMRI has already begun a community garden, where people can purchase shares, it's a great location too, high on a hill or small mountain, good soil, good people who know what they are doing are working it.

This Spring, I believe, will be the 3rd year.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 19, 2011, 03:33:21 PM »

Are enough veggies being grown there to tide someone over through the seasons? Enough to store and eat during the winter? Does anyone keep animals that can be butchered and eaten?

I worry that we are all too dilettante-ish about these things. This is probably because we know deep down that surviving through the disaster that's coming is mainly a matter of luck, and not of preparation. Someone could prepare for years, build himself a bunker, have a thousand guns, grow all his own food, and be wiped out by a bomb. While someone else may make no preparation at all and somehow stumble through.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 19, 2011, 03:40:18 PM »

More questions --

How isolated is this community garden? Is it near Mt. St. Michael's? Mt. St. Michael's is extremely visible and will be quickly targeted by roving hordes.

Where are the records kept about who owns shares? How do we know those records will survive? Would the owners refuse food to those at CMRI who DON'T have shares? And who owns the "corporation," Bishop Pivarunas?

I question the business model here, that is, I questioin why they are making this into a business. It would make more sense to make this garden a voluntary project of the people at CMRI.

I'm sorry, that's a terrible idea, it's going to lead to all kinds of strife and contention.

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 19, 2011, 04:15:18 PM »

We have given some thought to this as well. Surviving in a really cold climate with no electricity or heat source will be really hard for many people. Not to mention the limited growing season. While it certainly wouldn't be impossible as our ancestors survived, it will be really difficult for modern people with modern sensibilities. No matter how one prepares, I think it will come down to a matter of will and perseverance for many.

Although, knowing how to dress a moose could prove useful...

I also think having some modern luxury like beer could be a great bargaining tool...

Emerentiana · « **Reply #10 on:** February 19, 2011, 04:26:32 PM »

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We have given some thought to this as well. Surviving in a really cold climate with no electricity or heat source will be really hard for many people. Not to mention the limited growing season. While it certainly wouldn't be impossible as our ancestors survived, it will be really difficult for modern people with modern sensibilities. No matter how one prepares, I think it will come down to a matter of will and perseverance for many.

Although, knowing how to dress a moose could prove useful...

I also think having some modern luxury like beer could be a great bargaining tool...

How true! Cathmom! Living in the North is very taxing in the wintertime! Have to learn to can preserve and store! Hunting deer and elk is big here!

Dressing a Moose and stocking up on beer is very useful knowledge also! Protection against bears is also a necessity! :roll-laugh1:

MyrnaM · « **Reply #11 on:** February 19, 2011, 05:05:22 PM »

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More questions --

How isolated is this community garden? Is it near Mt. St. Michael's? Mt. St. Michael's is extremely visible and will be quickly targeted by roving hordes.

Where are the records kept about who owns shares? How do we know those records will survive? Would the owners refuse food to those at CMRI who DON'T have shares? And who owns the "corporation," Bishop Pivarunas?

I question the business model here, that is, I questioin why they are making this into a business. It would make more sense to make this garden a voluntary project of the people at CMRI.

I'm sorry, that's a terrible idea, it's going to lead to all kinds of strife and contention.

The garden is a recent new idea that we are formating right now. It is grown on Mount property and each year people contribute money to purchase a portion of what is grown there, it is not like I buy a share of the soil, no I buy a share of what is grown and harvested for that season.

The community garden is not really a business at all, just something the faithful can or can not participate in the choice is theirs to make each season.

If you ever come to Mount St. Michael, make sure you get a tour of the garden as well as all the other interesting things there such as the grotto, school, chapels even the Mount basement is quite interesting, i.e. there is a large rock there that was so big it couldn't be removed by the original people building, so the Mount still has it in the basement which was built all around this rock. Reminds me of "Upon this rock you will build my Church" lol!

Raoul76 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 19, 2011, 05:16:24 PM »

Oh I see, so it doesn't really have anything to do with post-apocalypse scenarii...

How is the weather in Idaho? I am in California now, but despite the temperate clime, I hardly think L.A. is the best place to sweat out the Minor Chastisement ( more like the worst, I can just imagine the rival ethnic gangs, the earthquakes and tsunamis, the vast population scrambling for food and water -- yikes! )

Raoul76 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 19, 2011, 05:18:24 PM »

MyrnaM said:

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If you ever come to Mount St. Michael, make sure you get a tour of the garden as well as all the other interesting things there such as the grotto, school, chapels even the Mount basement is quite interesting, i.e. there is a large rock there that was so big it couldn't be removed by the original people building, so the Mount still has it in the basement which was built all around this rock. Reminds me of "Upon this rock you will build my Church" lol!

Don't go there, heh heh. Some of the people here probably already think we're "acting like our own Popes." Then you and your rock have to come along and inflame the situation! :cheers:

Matto · « **Reply #14 on:** February 19, 2011, 05:24:52 PM »

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Reminds me of "Upon this rock you will build my Church" lol!

That is funny.