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Klaus Announces Next Move
« on: January 14, 2023, 06:50:17 AM »
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  • Cyber attack to bring down global power grids:

    https://gloria.tv/post/xxJJRcMbqXkR4QZGGz84TFm4t

    That will bring the bigger die-off he wants.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #1 on: January 14, 2023, 07:28:02 AM »
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  • Time to get some deep cycle batteries and solar panels.

    ...and make sure you live among a population that is known for hard work and civilization -- rather than a population that is only kept from crime by the constant presence of police officers.

    And if there were widespread power disruptions, the Internet would probably be unreliable or unavailable as well. One sure way to communicate, using only battery power, would be Ham Radio. It's the only long-distance form of communication that requires no infrastructure. 12V DC can be generated SO many ways (generator, wind, solar, water, steam, human-power, connecting a bunch of AA, AAA batteries together, etc.)

    Ham radios can be tiny and draw very little power. You can get out about 10X further if you know Morse Code.

    I talk about Ham Radio for 2 reasons. I'm into the subject and know a lot about it. But also because Comms is one of the most important things (after air, food, and water) in a collapse scenario. Imagine being in your neighborhood/house and not knowing what's going on beyond your neighborhood -- or even beyond your street! Not good. What good is a mountain of preps of all kinds, if you don't know about the huge gang, foreign army, or cloud of radioactive fallout coming your way?

    The US Military's most important asset -- its Intel infrastructure. Without Intelligence, all their powerful weapons would be much less useful.
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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #2 on: January 14, 2023, 08:03:39 AM »
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  • This website sells solar generators (ie., basically just big battery with outlets, charged by solar panels).  You have to buy the generator and panels separately, or as a bundle.  Not cheap, but essential for off grid living.

    https://www.jackery.com/products/explorer-2000-pro-portable-power-station

    Note that these are WAY quieter than using a gas or diesel generator (but not as powerful), or even gas inverters, which will be important for not giving away your position, or drawing attention.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #3 on: January 14, 2023, 08:09:51 AM »
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  • It's very likely all the flight cancellations across the country were a planned cyber attack caused by the deep state
    to psychologically prep the population for more massive and destructive ones to come.
    These people don't give up. They are constantly scheming and tweaking their evil plans.

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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #4 on: January 14, 2023, 08:36:39 AM »
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  • This website sells solar generators (ie., basically just big battery with outlets, charged by solar panels).  You have to buy the generator and panels separately, or as a bundle.  Not cheap, but essential for off grid living.

    https://www.jackery.com/products/explorer-2000-pro-portable-power-station

    Note that these are WAY quieter than using a gas or diesel generator (but not as powerful), or even gas inverters, which will be important for not giving away your position, or drawing attention.

    I've thought about solar, but it seems as though I'd need a large number of panels to just get a modest amount of power.  So I've opted for propane tanks and a dual fuel generator (propane & gas).  Propane is good because it stores forever (unlike gas) and if the gasoline supply gets disrupted, you still have your propane.  I have a propane hot water heater (Joolca), a small propane cooktop, and a vent-free propane heater (I figured we'd huddle in a small room).

    Big concern I have is that the lower level of my house that requres a sump pump; otherwise it would flood.  And a sump pump would drain a battery very quickly.  I don't think I could keep up with the power needs even with a dozen solar panels.

    In any case, I'm not a big fan of the packaged "power station" setups because they're overprice.  If you get some good batteries, the panels, a solar charger, and an inverter, you can get the setup for a lot cheaper.  It's really not that hard to put together.  I don't have one of these right now because it would be very expensive.  Various 12V appliances are more efficient than using an inverter, but those are also rather expensive.


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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #5 on: January 14, 2023, 08:55:00 AM »
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  • I think this is almost a couple years old, but it would also dovetail with their climate change agenda.

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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #6 on: January 14, 2023, 08:57:32 AM »
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  • I've thought about solar, but it seems as though I'd need a large number of panels to just get a modest amount of power.  So I've opted for propane tanks and a dual fuel generator (propane & gas).  Propane is good because it stores forever (unlike gas) and if the gasoline supply gets disrupted, you still have your propane.  I have a propane hot water heater (Joolca), a small propane cooktop, and a vent-free propane heater (I figured we'd huddle in a small room).

    Big concern I have is that the lower level of my house that requres a sump pump; otherwise it would flood.  And a sump pump would drain a battery very quickly.  I don't think I could keep up with the power needs even with a dozen solar panels.

    In any case, I'm not a big fan of the packaged "power station" setups because they're overprice.  If you get some good batteries, the panels, a solar charger, and an inverter, you can get the setup for a lot cheaper.  It's really not that hard to put together.  I don't have one of these right now because it would be very expensive.  Various 12V appliances are more efficient than using an inverter, but those are also rather expensive.

    Hmm, tricky to power that sump pump, because if it rains for days, you might need to run the pump for days, which will drain batteries (solar) and gas tanks (generator). 

    I have a 7500 watt gas generator with a 7.5 gal. tank, which will last 13 hours at full output.  So if I had to run it around the clock to power the pump for 4 days, that would take over 50 gallons of gas (of course I’d be powering other items in the meantime, so maybe it’s 50 gallons that I was going to burn regardless).
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #7 on: January 14, 2023, 09:04:11 AM »
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  • Hmm, tricky to power that sump pump, because if it rains for days, you might need to run the pump for days, which will drain batteries (solar) and gas tanks (generator). 

    Yes, the sump pump is my big problem.  I'm thinking of calling out some foundation people to see if it's feasible to redo the way the foundation drains.  There is a slight downhill slope which would allow the water to drain off ... except it would probably soak the back yard.  Not sure what to do about that thing.


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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #8 on: January 14, 2023, 09:12:38 AM »
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  • So compared to one of those solar power packs ($2,000 for the one above, and I don't even think it comes with a solar panel), you can get a 200 AH LifePO4 battery for about $600, and I've seen 100AH ones for as low as $169.  Both of these will give you much more capacity than the "Power Station".  Then you need a solar charge controller (< $15) and an inverter, 1000W for about $189 through 8000W for about $1200.

    So that solar power pack selling for $2099, has ...
    3000W Inverter ($500)
    and 2100WH capacity (=170AH) -- ($500 for superior LifePO4 batter, which this thing doesn't have)
    Charge controller $15

    So all added about about $1000 (so about half price).  It doesn't come with any solar panels.

    I guess it's convenient and compact vs. having wires running between the different components.

    So, basically, for $2000 you can run a refrigerator for 3 hours, or a mini-fridge for 15 hours.  To me that's very little power for the cost.  But even if you build the kit yourself, to me it's just very expensive.

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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #9 on: January 14, 2023, 09:15:57 AM »
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  • Yes, the sump pump is my big problem.  I'm thinking of calling out some foundation people to see if it's feasible to redo the way the foundation drains.  There is a slight downhill slope which would allow the water to drain off ... except it would probably soak the back yard.  Not sure what to do about that thing.

    We installed french drains around two sides of our house because during heavy rains the basement would flood. Not badly flood, just a thin layer of water in certain areas. The french drain was connected to a pipe that drained though the yard and out to the street. The foundation of the old house in those areas had become quite porous. The drains worked great - there was no more water incursion. But you might have too much water for that type of drain.

    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #10 on: January 14, 2023, 09:31:41 AM »
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  • We installed french drains around two sides of our house because during heavy rains the basement would flood. Not badly flood, just a thin layer of water in certain areas. The french drain was connected to a pipe that drained though the yard and out to the street. The foundation of the old house in those areas had become quite porous. The drains worked great - there was no more water incursion. But you might have too much water for that type of drain.

    Thanks for the tip.  I might have some foundation people come out and give me their thoughts.


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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #11 on: January 14, 2023, 10:10:49 AM »
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  • How many thousands of gallons of water are you pumping? Because I'm familiar with pumps, and I didn't think they sucked that much power. I use a 120V "utility pump" connected to a garden hose to pump out my pond (to water my trees each year), etc.

    In fact, I hooked up one to my Kill-A-Watt meter the last time I pumped, and it was definitely well under 100W, though I can't remember the exact amount. I run mine for hours on end, sometimes multiple days! The pond holds a lot of water, and we have a lot of fruit trees.

    They make 12V pumps, which would be easier to run off-grid and probably more efficient.

    I have the same problem as you, except it's my root cellar (separate from my house, under one of my sheds). I call it "root cellar" but it's more of a fallout shelter. 7' by 14', 9.5' deep (more than the average room or basement height -- a very tall "ceiling") with a staircase at one end, and 1 emergency exit in the ceiling at the other end. I don't use it much. I might use it to gather water in a collapse scenario; the water is very clear percolating through the concrete walls. Basically it's a cistern! I tried coating the outside with tar, etc. but you can't beat nature. Water is going to get in.

    100 watt solar panels are about $100. Relatively cheap in the scheme of things. I agree, making your own system is smart, it's not rocket science. Unless you have PLENTY of money you can just throw at it for a turn-key solution. But if you ask me, those systems are for "other people" -- retired baby boomers who want to be prepared, who have a lifetime of money-earning behind them, who have large nest eggs, and perhaps have low technical knowledge and/or not enough time to learn something as simple as a solar panel 12V off grid setup. Keep in mind that "energy security" is only ONE aspect of being prepared. You have other departments to learn about and acquire supplies for as well. So I understand why some people of means would want an easy, turn-key solution. But nevertheless, it's not rocket science.

    Don't get a $15 charge controller though. That will only handle 1-2 panels, and will be cheap in quality.
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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #12 on: January 14, 2023, 10:18:21 AM »
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  • How many thousands of gallons of water are you pumping? Because I'm familiar with pumps, and I didn't think they sucked that much power. I use a 120V "utility pump" connected to a garden hose to pump out my pond (to water my trees each year), etc.

    They make 12V pumps, which would be easier to run off-grid and probably more efficient.

    Thanks, Matthew.  I just went off power consumption numbers for sump pumps I saw online.  I have seen the 12V pumps, but I don't know how much water they'd have to move, how long it would need to route, and am not sure how to route route the water line outside.

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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #13 on: January 14, 2023, 10:22:13 AM »
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  • Thanks, Matthew.  I just went off power consumption numbers for sump pumps I saw online.  I have seen the 12V pumps, but I don't know how much water they'd have to move, how long it would need to route, and am not sure how to route route the water line outside.

    Here is the one I have:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X05G1A/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000X05G1A&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />

    Unless you have a *lot* of water, you're not going to be running the thing that long. And to state the obvious, it only consumes power while it's running. I guess you could estimate the square footage of your basement, multiply by the depth of water, to get an estimate on how many gallons. These pumps do up to 1800 gallons per hour. So you could estimate their run-time somewhat.
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    Re: Klaus Announces Next Move
    « Reply #14 on: January 14, 2023, 10:28:24 AM »
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  • Here is the one I have:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X05G1A/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000X05G1A&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />

    Unless you have a *lot* of water, you're not going to be running the thing that long. And to state the obvious, it only consumes power while it's running. I guess you could estimate the square footage of your basement, multiply by the depth of water, to get an estimate on how many gallons. These pumps do up to 1800 gallons per hour. So you could estimate their run-time somewhat.

    Thanks, Matthew.  I'll look into this.  Doing a serach on "off grid sump pump", I found this.  Very expensive, and I'm not sure what the advantages of this are vs. a simpler setup like you have.  I've also seen hand bilge pumps that one could use, but I imagine it would be a ton of work to keep up with the water flow in the rainy seasons.

    https://shop.rpssolarpumps.com/products/grid-free-solar-sump-pump-system-new-2020

    Says it required 12 55AH batteries to keep up with the highest flow rate.  And those are the same types of numbers I keep seeing.  I have no idea why sump pumps drain so much electricity.