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Offline graceseeker

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I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
« on: January 10, 2018, 03:09:17 PM »
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    • I don't know for sure how many true Catholics exist in this anti-Christ world

    but it doesn't seem the number is up there..

    some are materialistic, love their things, wouldn't think to share w/ anyone less fortunate.. again, just my perceptions, not based on much first hand knowledge except a few experiences here and there in the past

    anyway, then there are the ones who don't even know whether they are really pro life in every situation or not...

    they don't believe the Church

    then there are those who think the Church is not really THE Church (which I guess the aforementioned folks are in that category)

    And so anyway... it seems that when Jesus asks of us something difficult, we just... aren't Christians anymore or something
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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #1 on: January 10, 2018, 03:45:48 PM »
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    • Yes it does appear they're rather rare.
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    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #2 on: January 10, 2018, 03:47:01 PM »
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    • 'The saved are few, but we must live with the few if we would be saved with the few. O God, too few indeed they are: yet amongst those few I wish to be!'


    St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori, Doctor of the Church
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    Sincerely,

    Shin

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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #3 on: February 05, 2018, 04:10:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: shin on January 10, 2018, 03:47:01 PM
    'The saved are few, but we must live with the few if we would be saved with the few. O God, too few indeed they are: yet amongst those few I wish to be!'


    St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori, Doctor of the Church
    I know the feeling. I know of only ONE person I consider somewhat saintly. And being in that person's presence is... well, words fail.
    on the other hand, being in the presence of those who serve the world, the flesh and the devil.. is nothing short of hell.
    it is hell w a little H bc in this life we can always get the heck outa there, distract ourselves by driving 50 miles away and etc.. (laugh)
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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #4 on: February 05, 2018, 04:12:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: victim of the sspx on January 21, 2018, 09:24:56 PM
    Yeah theyre false and youre true.

    Thats what everyone tells themselves no matter what group or belief or situation theyre in.
    and some who say that will be correct
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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #5 on: February 05, 2018, 11:16:17 PM »
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    • We are a fallen human race. Many (some) are doing the best they can and are learning as they go along.  Christ encouraged the sinners who were willing to try and didn't expect instant saintly behavior, it takes a lifetime.

    Someone once said,  Be kind; everyone is fighting a battle you know nothing about.

    As Catholics I think we should take that to heart.


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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #6 on: February 05, 2018, 11:24:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marlelar on February 05, 2018, 11:16:17 PM
    We are a fallen human race. Many (some) are doing the best they can and are learning as they go along.  Christ encouraged the sinners who were willing to try and didn't expect instant saintly behavior, it takes a lifetime.

    Someone once said,  Be kind; everyone is fighting a battle you know nothing about.

    As Catholics I think we should take that to heart.
    Couldn't agree more.
    Charity erases a multitude of sin, besides...
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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #7 on: February 07, 2018, 04:47:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marlelar on February 05, 2018, 11:16:17 PM
    We are a fallen human race. Many (some) are doing the best they can and are learning as they go along.  Christ encouraged the sinners who were willing to try and didn't expect instant saintly behavior, it takes a lifetime.

    Someone once said,  Be kind; everyone is fighting a battle you know nothing about.

    As Catholics I think we should take that to heart.
    yes, that saying.. well, life itself showed me how true that is, that everyone has their... calvary that others know nothing about. Still... maybe we should talk a little about such things and then it won't be so mysterious and therefore... well, I mean, if you go around thinking 90% of people are better off than you are... well, maybe it is time for the 90% to share some of their crosses... and disabuse us of such falsehoods. You can't have compassion on people who seem to have no problems... It is time for us all to give up some pride and admit that we do have problems...
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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #8 on: February 08, 2018, 12:00:39 AM »
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    • I suspect a lot of people are like me and don't speak of their crosses because they are nobody else's business.  If I need help or guidance or prayers I ask for them, but I don't want to dwell on my problems by discussing them unproductively with another,  I just shoulder them and keep moving.

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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #9 on: February 08, 2018, 08:17:56 AM »
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    • I don't think anyone is talking about people who struggle with sins ... but, rather, the lukewarm types who just go through the motions and don't even care.  There are many sinners who are grief-stricken by their sins and are struggling with them, but there are many more, even if they're NOT generally in serious sin, who just don't seem to care that much.
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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #10 on: February 08, 2018, 10:13:30 AM »
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    You can't have compassion on people who seem to have no problems

    We are fallen human beings, we ALL have our crosses, burdens, and sufferings.  Ideally, we should not reserve our compassion, kindness, understanding, etc only for people whose problems are openly known but we would treat each soul we meet as if he were Christ on the road to Calvary.

    I'll be the first to admit how often I fail at doing just that, but nonetheless I keep trying to see Christ in each person I meet.
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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #11 on: February 08, 2018, 10:39:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: graceseeker on February 07, 2018, 04:47:47 PM
    yes, that saying.. well, life itself showed me how true that is, that everyone has their... calvary that others know nothing about. Still... maybe we should talk a little about such things and then it won't be so mysterious and therefore... well, I mean, if you go around thinking 90% of people are better off than you are... well, maybe it is time for the 90% to share some of their crosses... and disabuse us of such falsehoods. You can't have compassion on people who seem to have no problems... It is time for us all to give up some pride and admit that we do have problems...

    Do you spend a lot of time thinking about how most people are better off than you are? Do you have resentment towards those who are "better off than you are?" 

    I ask this because that would be a very materialistic view of life - if that's your focus - which it appears to be. Maybe I'm wrong about that.
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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #12 on: February 08, 2018, 03:01:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 08, 2018, 10:39:19 AM
    Do you spend a lot of time thinking about how most people are better off than you are? Do you have resentment towards those who are "better off than you are?"

    I ask this because that would be a very materialistic view of life - if that's your focus - which it appears to be. Maybe I'm wrong about that.
    objectively, 90% of people do seem to be better off than I am
    but it is interesting that you think I refer to material things...
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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #13 on: February 08, 2018, 03:04:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marlelar on February 08, 2018, 10:13:30 AM
    We are fallen human beings, we ALL have our crosses, burdens, and sufferings.  Ideally, we should not reserve our compassion, kindness, understanding, etc only for people whose problems are openly known but we would treat each soul we meet as if he were Christ on the road to Calvary.

    I'll be the first to admit how often I fail at doing just that, but nonetheless I keep trying to see Christ in each person I meet.
    when Jesus was dying on the Cross, he was likely consumed with his own misery. He obvoiusly was not healing anyone or all the other miracles i htink of that he did
    when a human is miserable, it is so hard to think of others. This is one of the problems a lot of really hurting people have. As the 12 step program puts it "Hurt people hurt hurting people"
    do they know they are doing that? sometimes they do.. and couldn't care less (from my experience)
    I myself go out of my way not to hurt people and yet "they" are always hurting me, and for no reason... no reason at all... except for this one "reason"
    I am Christian
    I truly believe most people hate Christians... (the terrorists in the middle east being the primary but not the only example)
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    Re: I don't think there are many TRUE Catholics
    « Reply #14 on: February 08, 2018, 03:42:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: graceseeker on February 08, 2018, 03:04:20 PM
    when Jesus was dying on the Cross, he was likely consumed with his own misery. He obvoiusly was not healing anyone or all the other miracles i htink of that he did
    when a human is miserable, it is so hard to think of others. This is one of the problems a lot of really hurting people have. As the 12 step program puts it "Hurt people hurt hurting people"
    do they know they are doing that? sometimes they do.. and couldn't care less (from my experience)
    I myself go out of my way not to hurt people and yet "they" are always hurting me, and for no reason... no reason at all... except for this one "reason"
    I am Christian
    I truly believe most people hate Christians... (the terrorists in the middle east being the primary but not the only example)
    :facepalm:
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