Author Topic: You're not prepared yet (Read 5730 times)

sedetrad · « **Reply #15 on:** December 16, 2009, 01:53:54 PM »

Agreed!

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:06:10 AM »

Quote from: sedetrad

Dr. E. Michael Jones discusses this exact thing in his book The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing.
http://www.culturewars.com/books.htm

I don't really recommend much else from him as his Catholic understanding is out of whack but the above is a solid piece of scholarship.

Andy

Thanks for the link, Andy. I'm going to order this book after Christmas. I'm from the Chicago area and I saw our neighborhoods destroyed one after the other in the 70's. It looks like Jones explores some ideas I was definitely not aware of...

sedetrad · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:38:44 AM »

No problem! He writes how it was a concerted effort by the wasp governing elite in this country to destroy the ethnic Catholic neighborhoods.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:46:26 AM »

My Dad would agree, Sedetrad. He remembers when "Irish need not apply" signs were posted and when crosses were burnt in the yards of Catholics. In the midwest, btw.

sedetrad · « **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:51:29 AM »

It is sort of poetic justice how the wasp governing elite scuм lost their power to govern this country to Jєωιѕн immigrants that took over the media and banking of this country lolololol. I grew up in CT and have no love for WASPs. They are a cold people.

Belloc · « **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:10:20 AM »

It is their residual Calvinism....a very limited and dark view of the world.......

littlerose · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:22:06 AM »

Quote from: sedetrad

No problem! He writes how it was a concerted effort by the wasp governing elite in this country to destroy the ethnic Catholic neighborhoods.

Which decades does he cover? The burning of North Village that I described was simultaneous with the decision by Bishop Flanagan (which was not his, of course, but handed down) to erase the ethnic parishes. Our language programs and everything had to go.

The Irish Catholics had the advantage as semi-anglos, and controlled the politics. We French continued to live in our little bubble of private culture longer than some, I think.

The economic structure of our parishes, which was a healthy mix of private property and communal concern, scared the WASPs, I think. If you consider the Protestant ethic that God shows favor in prosperity next to the Catholic ethic that we are loved through wealth and poverty, you can see that our prosperity during the '50s must have really shook them up while we were not even thinking about it.

It is no wonder they took us by surprise. My mother took a lot of grief from people who called her "paranoid" and other names for speaking of the assasination of JFK as part of a religious war, but only lately do I see what she was talking about.

The economic engine is driven by religious culture, after all.

Thurifer · « **Reply #22 on:** December 31, 2009, 06:03:00 PM »

Quote from: sedetrad

He was until very recently very much against the SSPX and traditionalist Catholics in general. He also would not post a rejoinder by Michael Hoffman against a criticism of his book. That was very slimeballish of him.

Could you be a little more specific here? I'm having a hard time distinguishing who criticized whose book here.

I like both of these authors. In Hoffman's book Judaism Discovered, he devotes a couple of pages to plagerism. And mentions that one author went out of his way to find another source in order to not cite Hoffman as a source. Hoffman does not mention who it was. But, I always suspected it might be Jones. Do you have any knowledge of this?

I am also aware that Jones' publication Culture Wars gave Judaism Discovered a bad review.

I have some criticisms of Judaism Discovered too. It seems to meander all over the place even though it has a lot of great information. And I find it hard to follow since I don't know the тαℓмυd like I am assuming Hoffman expects his readers to know it.

Thurifer · « **Reply #23 on:** December 31, 2009, 06:09:56 PM »

Quote from: St Jude Thaddeus

Quote from: sedetrad
Dr. E. Michael Jones discusses this exact thing in his book The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing.
http://www.culturewars.com/books.htm

I don't really recommend much else from him as his Catholic understanding is out of whack but the above is a solid piece of scholarship.

Andy

Thanks for the link, Andy. I'm going to order this book after Christmas. I'm from the Chicago area and I saw our neighborhoods destroyed one after the other in the 70's. It looks like Jones explores some ideas I was definitely not aware of...

One of the things that destroyed the Polish neighborhood was the Kennedy Expressway. It cut it right in half. If you are form Chicago, you must know about St. Stanislaus Kostka. That church was scheduled for demolition. And the rectory is literally touching the shoulder of that road. It is a miracle that one survived.

I was a mere infant when we moved. But, irony of ironies, I now use that same expressway to take my family into the city to attend Mass.

Bridgeport was Mayor Daley the elder's home stomping grounds. You may or may not know that is the reason Bridgeport was not cut in half by the Expressways.

littlerose · « **Reply #24 on:** December 31, 2009, 06:25:22 PM »

Quote from: Thurifer

Quote from: St Jude Thaddeus
Quote from: sedetrad
Dr. E. Michael Jones discusses this exact thing in his book The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing.
http://www.culturewars.com/books.htm

I don't really recommend much else from him as his Catholic understanding is out of whack but the above is a solid piece of scholarship.

Andy

Thanks for the link, Andy. I'm going to order this book after Christmas. I'm from the Chicago area and I saw our neighborhoods destroyed one after the other in the 70's. It looks like Jones explores some ideas I was definitely not aware of...

One of the things that destroyed the Polish neighborhood was the Kennedy Expressway. It cut it right in half. If you are form Chicago, you must know about St. Stanislaus Kostka. That church was scheduled for demolition. And the rectory is literally touching the shoulder of that road. It is a miracle that one survived.

I was a mere infant when we moved. But, irony of ironies, I now use that same expressway to take my family into the city to attend Mass.

Bridgeport was Mayor Daley the elder's home stomping grounds. You may or may not know that is the reason Bridgeport was not cut in half by the Expressways.

That is a fascinating period of history, the "car-i-fication" of cities! There are books about the infamous city planner "Moses" in New York that really analyze the process that was being played out all across the USA, a process of completely disrupting natural village-neighborhoods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_renewal

I remember similar material in college about the way the British Empire and later the USA perfected a system of breaking up natural tribal lands in Africa in order to have incompatible groups sharing the same governments, especially among the Arabs.

Look where that got us!

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #25 on:** January 01, 2010, 10:17:31 PM »

Quote from: littlerose

Quote from: Thurifer
Quote from: St Jude Thaddeus
Quote from: sedetrad
Dr. E. Michael Jones discusses this exact thing in his book The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing.
http://www.culturewars.com/books.htm

I don't really recommend much else from him as his Catholic understanding is out of whack but the above is a solid piece of scholarship.

Andy

Thanks for the link, Andy. I'm going to order this book after Christmas. I'm from the Chicago area and I saw our neighborhoods destroyed one after the other in the 70's. It looks like Jones explores some ideas I was definitely not aware of...

One of the things that destroyed the Polish neighborhood was the Kennedy Expressway. It cut it right in half. If you are form Chicago, you must know about St. Stanislaus Kostka. That church was scheduled for demolition. And the rectory is literally touching the shoulder of that road. It is a miracle that one survived.

I was a mere infant when we moved. But, irony of ironies, I now use that same expressway to take my family into the city to attend Mass.

Bridgeport was Mayor Daley the elder's home stomping grounds. You may or may not know that is the reason Bridgeport was not cut in half by the Expressways.

That is a fascinating period of history, the "car-i-fication" of cities! There are books about the infamous city planner "Moses" in New York that really analyze the process that was being played out all across the USA, a process of completely disrupting natural village-neighborhoods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_renewal

I remember similar material in college about the way the British Empire and later the USA perfected a system of breaking up natural tribal lands in Africa in order to have incompatible groups sharing the same governments, especially among the Arabs.

Look where that got us!

Littlerose, where is your book?

I learn something new every time I read one of your posts!

littlerose · « **Reply #26 on:** January 01, 2010, 10:27:13 PM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

Quote from: littlerose
Quote from: Thurifer
Quote from: St Jude Thaddeus
Quote from: sedetrad
Dr. E. Michael Jones discusses this exact thing in his book The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing.
http://www.culturewars.com/books.htm

I don't really recommend much else from him as his Catholic understanding is out of whack but the above is a solid piece of scholarship.

Andy

Thanks for the link, Andy. I'm going to order this book after Christmas. I'm from the Chicago area and I saw our neighborhoods destroyed one after the other in the 70's. It looks like Jones explores some ideas I was definitely not aware of...

One of the things that destroyed the Polish neighborhood was the Kennedy Expressway. It cut it right in half. If you are form Chicago, you must know about St. Stanislaus Kostka. That church was scheduled for demolition. And the rectory is literally touching the shoulder of that road. It is a miracle that one survived.

I was a mere infant when we moved. But, irony of ironies, I now use that same expressway to take my family into the city to attend Mass.

Bridgeport was Mayor Daley the elder's home stomping grounds. You may or may not know that is the reason Bridgeport was not cut in half by the Expressways.

That is a fascinating period of history, the "car-i-fication" of cities! There are books about the infamous city planner "Moses" in New York that really analyze the process that was being played out all across the USA, a process of completely disrupting natural village-neighborhoods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_renewal

I remember similar material in college about the way the British Empire and later the USA perfected a system of breaking up natural tribal lands in Africa in order to have incompatible groups sharing the same governments, especially among the Arabs.

Look where that got us!

Littlerose, where is your book?

I learn something new every time I read one of your posts!

Please pray for me to finish it. "Life" keeps interfering. I finally did take two years of the story (approx) to start an autobiogrpahy, then I started ficitionalizing it to free myself of privacy-anxiety (for to tell one's own story is to tell the other stories , too) and I finally did get about 25 chapters done.

Your words are very encouraging. One begins to fight with the questions of conscience when one writes personal witness and memoir, as in "is this just self-indulgence, pride, that I should think I am the one to tell it?" complicated by "If I don't tell that part, am I lying?" etc.

Then there are the painful memories, the unfinished business. etc... that can be an occasion of sin, because you can suddenly discover that you didn't really forgive someone after all and then all the pain and anger and bitterness comes in...

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #27 on:** January 01, 2010, 10:38:19 PM »

Littlerose,

Just get it all down. All of it. Do not let 'perfect' be the enemy of 'pretty danged good' or even 'just okay.'

littlerose · « **Reply #28 on:** January 01, 2010, 11:22:58 PM »

ok, new year'sresolution: I will pull it out and start on it first thing each day before posting anything anywhere.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #29 on:** January 01, 2010, 11:35:06 PM »

Quote from: littlerose

ok, new year'sresolution: I will pull it out and start on it first thing each day before posting anything anywhere.

I will say a Hail Mary each day for this intention.

Author Topic: You&#039;re not prepared yet (Read 5730 times)

Author Topic: You're not prepared yet (Read 5730 times)