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Offline Geremia

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fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
« on: August 29, 2013, 10:05:52 AM »
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  • Has anyone here, e.g., taught at a Novus Ordo school and been fired for being a traditional Catholic?

    I have heard stories of Novus Ordo schools allowing non-Catholic or -Christian, openly cohabitating, atheist, etc., teachers on their staff, but when they found out they had a SSPX or other traditional Catholic on staff, they fired him.
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    fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
    « Reply #1 on: August 29, 2013, 11:52:51 AM »
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  • I had a traditionalist friend who taught at a NO school. He wasn't fired but quit eventually because he was ostracized.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine


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    fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
    « Reply #2 on: August 29, 2013, 11:56:32 AM »
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  • I think, after a period of time, being in a novus ordo school would be repulsive to the Catholic.

    Offline Telesphorus

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    fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
    « Reply #3 on: August 29, 2013, 12:05:00 PM »
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  • These days it's trads ostracizing trads for remaining trad.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
    « Reply #4 on: August 29, 2013, 12:20:35 PM »
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    This is an important topic.  

    I have known others who were fired for this.  And I had a similar
    experience, not a "job" but a partnership.  

    After all, our Resistance priests are being "fired" from the SSPX
    for being too Catholic.  

    I have had friends who were "expelled" from Mel Gibson's chapel
    in Malibu because they stood up for the Catholic Faith.

    I have a friend who was "fired from the pulpit" when the parish
    pastor used this person's name and announced the end of my
    friend's tenure at the parish right in front of the Sunday
    congregation. And that was in 1973.  It was due to my friend's
    consistent resistance to the changes in the liturgy, as choir
    director.

    And now, we see the tug of money interests affecting how our
    independent priest adhere to principles.  When some of their more
    affluent parishioners are taking sides with Accordistas, that is,
    willing to harshly judge +W and blindly defend +F, the independent
    pastor might be averse to touching on "political issues" suddenly.
    Mind you, this is happening when he has been outspokenly in favor
    of touching on "political issues" when it has to do with the Federal
    bureaucracy, in regards to the Social Kingship of Our Lord Jesus
    Christ.  Maybe the principle of "principles" has two departments?  

    We used to call this "duplicity."


    I'd call it B16's hermeneutic of double mindedness.  



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    Offline Geremia

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    fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
    « Reply #5 on: August 29, 2013, 02:09:59 PM »
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    I think, after a period of time, being in a novus ordo school would be repulsive to the Catholic.
    Yes, just the miniskirt "uniforms" and the mess of coed is enough to "vote with your feet" and leave such a toxic environment.
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    fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
    « Reply #6 on: August 29, 2013, 02:43:07 PM »
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  • As a traditional Catholic who will have nothing to do with the new mass or Vatican II, the three diocese in my area would not hire me to teach at their schools.  I could not do it in good conscience because as a lower grade teacher, I'd have to teach the new catechism, bring children to a bastard mass, and sit idly by giving tacit approval by my silence.  How ironic it is that I can teach for a private, non-affiliated "christian" school where the requirements violate neither faith nor morals.  There is basically no difference between the "education" at NYC parochial and public schools.  They both follow the same state/federal mandated No Child Left Behind/Core Standards Curriculum.  Even if permitted, I couldn't teach for either without committing mortal sin.  Catholic parochial schools will hire Protestants, Muslims, Jєωs, people of no religion in the name of ecuмenism.  The only exceptions are traditional Catholics!
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    fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
    « Reply #7 on: August 29, 2013, 05:51:43 PM »
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  • There are in fact so many jobs nowadays that you can't take and be a Catholic in -- they might as well put up a sign 'No Catholics Allowed'.

    But of course since there are so many traitors, and so few Catholics, and so few of these actually know what they are doing, it all is swept under the rug.

    But it does remind one of the 'time of the Antichrist' and how 'no one will be able to buy or sell' without the sign.
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    Shin

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    fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
    « Reply #8 on: August 29, 2013, 08:37:02 PM »
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  • I agree with Frances.  She said everything I would have said.  Why, Why on earth would any TRUE traditionalist set foot in a NO school.  They know very darn well that what they would be expected to teach would be lies and half truths and how could they stomach NO mess!  What are they doing in those dioceses!  Stupidity on their part!  Or maybe they are not as traditional as they think they are? Hm?  Is it the money?  The whole idea would make me vomit!
    I am reading the book, Public Education my Fr.Muller, wow! written in 1872, what an  eye opener.  

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    « Reply #9 on: August 29, 2013, 09:34:36 PM »
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  • Only the most naive true Catholic would even consider working in a NO school. The others would know exactly what to expect and steer clear of the abomination.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
    « Reply #10 on: August 29, 2013, 10:54:03 PM »
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    Even if permitted, I couldn't teach for either without committing mortal sin.
    What's wrong with the "core" curriculum?
    Quote from: Frances
    Catholic parochial schools will hire Protestants, Muslims, Jєωs, people of no religion in the name of ecuмenism.  The only exceptions are traditional Catholics!
    Yes, that's what I've noticed, too.
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    « Reply #11 on: August 29, 2013, 10:56:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: Nadir
    Only the most naive true Catholic would even consider working in a NO school.
    What if they intend to convert it from within? Isn't that possible?
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    fired for being a traditional Catholic a Novus Ordo job?
    « Reply #12 on: August 29, 2013, 10:59:00 PM »
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    I am reading the book, Public Education my Fr.Muller, wow! written in 1872, what an  eye opener.  
    Have you read Card. Manning's National Education (1889)?
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    « Reply #13 on: August 30, 2013, 01:25:56 AM »
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  • Quote from: Geremia
    Quote from: Nadir
    Only the most naive true Catholic would even consider working in a NO school.
    What if they intend to convert it from within? Isn't that possible?


    If a person intended to convert from within that would only prove their naivity.

    No, Geremia, it is not possible. You don't convert from within any organisation which it demands of you acts which are displeasing to God. You wouldn't join the Communist Party to convert from within, or the Theosphists or the Skeptics. Similarly, sadly, with the X-catholic school system. They would require many things which would put fear into hearts of any true Catholic. You would be expected to, for example, ruin the innocence of little children by sex education or such like.
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    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    « Reply #14 on: August 30, 2013, 05:16:08 PM »
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  • Kinda off topic, and if it deserves its own thread, I apologize. But, is there really any job anywhere that does not have 6 degrees of separation from immorality and approximate occasion of sin?