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Family fights government over rare Double Eagle gold coins
« on: July 07, 2011, 10:49:05 PM »
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  • Family fights government over rare ‘Double Eagle’ gold coins

    A Jєωeler's heirs are fighting the United States government for the right to keep a batch of rare and valuable "Double Eagle" $20 coins that date back to the Franklin Roosevelt administration. It's just the latest coin controversy to make headlines.

    Philadelphian Joan Langbord and her sons say they found the 10 coins in 2003 in a bank deposit box kept by Langbord's father, Israel Switt, a Jєωeler who died in 1990. But when they tried to have the haul authenticated by the U.S. Treasury, the feds, um, flipped.

    They said the coins were stolen from the U.S. Mint back in 1933, and are the government's property. The Treasury Department seized the coins, and locked them away at Fort Knox. The court battle is set to kick off this week.

    The rare coins (pictured), first struck in 1850, show a flying eagle on one side and a figure representing liberty on the other. One such coin recently sold at auction for $7.6 million, meaning the Langbords' trove could be worth as much as $80 million.

    The coins are part of a batch that were struck but then melted down after President Roosevelt took the country off the gold standard in 1933, during the Great Depression. Two were given to the Smithsonian Institution*, but a few more mysteriously escaped.

    The government has long believed that Switt schemed with a corrupt cashier at the Mint to swipe the coins. They note that the deposit box in which the coins were found was rented six years after Switt's death, and that the family never paid inheritance tax on the coins.

    A lawyer for the Langbords counters that the coins could have left the Mint legally since it was permissible to swap gold coins for gold bullion.

    Authorities in the Roosevelt era twice looked into Switt's coin dealings, including his possession of Double Eagle coins. In 1944, Switt's license to deal scrap gold was revoked.

    The battle over the Double Eagles is hardly the only recent coin contretemps. Two British metal-detecting enthusiasts are said to be locked in a bitter dispute over how to divide the profits from a horde of Iron Age gold coins that they unearthed together in eastern England in 2008.

    And an 80-year-old California man was jailed in 2009 after allegedly hitting another man in the head with a metal pipe and firing a gun at a third man during a dispute over missing gold coins.

    Some coin disputes involve more than wrangling over valuable collectors' items. In 2007, Secret Service and FBI agents raided an Indiana company called Liberty Dollar, in a bid to stamp out illegal currency. The firm was making "Ron Paul Silver Dollars," in honor of Rep. Ron Paul, whose presidential campaign advocates bringing back the gold standard.
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    Family fights government over rare Double Eagle gold coins
    « Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 10:52:33 PM »
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  • I wonder if the government gave them $200 (for 10 double eagles) bucks or just outright took them.

    Foolish to talk to the government about their coins.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 07, 2011, 11:10:23 PM »
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  • They should have put the coins in an Off Shore Trust. Gov can't touch it. And in 1933 the gov made a law that if you were caught with gold or silver or gold or silver backed dollar bills you could serve a ten year sentence.

    Keep your gold and silver under your mattress. And keep it a secret.

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    « Reply #3 on: July 07, 2011, 11:12:47 PM »
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  • Just think, the face value of those double eagles is less than 2% of their melt value.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 11:25:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: the smart sheep
    Keep your gold and silver under your mattress.


    I'm sure you can come up with a better hiding place than that.  :wink:
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    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011, 11:46:45 PM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
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    Keep your gold and silver under your mattress.


    I'm sure you can come up with a better hiding place than that.  :wink:


    HE BETTER.
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    « Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 12:56:48 AM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Samurai
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    Keep your gold and silver under your mattress.


    I'm sure you can come up with a better hiding place than that.  :wink:


    HE BETTER.


    I know, right? I read an article about someone cleaning their mother's house, a sort of spring cleaning.  The mother's mattress was thrown out and when the mother found this out she was distraught because she had I think up to $10,000.00 in it.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 08, 2011, 01:09:41 AM »
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  • We have the whole earth beneath us.  Never forget that.  No need to burrow to hades, just dig deep enough!


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    « Reply #8 on: July 08, 2011, 01:42:40 AM »
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  • I thought this was interesting... I was watching a program yesterday that was, in part, detailing the heist of 3.5 tons of gold and subsequent investigation in trying to locate the stolen bars. One theory was that the thieves melted it down, mixed in other misc metals until it was no longer recognizable to the common eye as gold, and then "stored" it in a scrap metal yard as they slowly sold it off to a refinery.
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    « Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 10:49:56 AM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    We have the whole earth beneath us.  Never forget that.  No need to burrow to hades, just dig deep enough!


    Sister Nature does provide some rather interesting spots above ground as well. I would say take advantage of both.
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    « Reply #10 on: July 08, 2011, 11:19:54 AM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
    I thought this was interesting... I was watching a program yesterday that was, in part, detailing the heist of 3.5 tons of gold and subsequent investigation in trying to locate the stolen bars. One theory was that the thieves melted it down, mixed in other misc metals until it was no longer recognizable to the common eye as gold, and then "stored" it in a scrap metal yard as they slowly sold it off to a refinery.


    Maybe so. But what I heard was the NWO people are hiding lots of the gold in secured caves on an island. They are also hiding 3,000 different types of seeds.
    All conspiracy theory so take with a grain of salt.

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    « Reply #11 on: July 08, 2011, 03:39:03 PM »
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    « Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 09:44:17 PM »
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  • We actually have a seed vault here out in west Texas, but I can't remember weather they were only storing native Texas plant species or foreign species as well. The seed vaults are anything but a theory. The State ain't spending money on nothing.

    I'll actually be participating in a similar conservation effort sometime in the near future, but not with the seeds.
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

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