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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2022, 07:10:37 AM »
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  • Yeah, a lot of places put up the sign because they feel they have to, but then don't enforce it.

    Retailers were telling their employees to not enforce mask rules because they didn't want to be liable for any confrontations; they simply put the sign up and left it at that.

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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #76 on: February 07, 2022, 07:12:15 AM »
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  • Anne, there are over 50 peer reviewed studies you can find at pubmed to show that masks are harmful and not helpful.  This was even shown to be true during the Spanish Flu and Fauci himself was named on that study.

    There is no virus that has been isolated, purified and identified to cause any kind of pandemic and there are not enough dead bodies to equate to any kind of pandemic.

    Surgeons only wear masks to avoid drooling into their patients and they follow strict protocols for removing and replacing them.

    Masks of every kind are not effective in stopping any kind of virus from going through or around.

    If someone in the healthcare industry wants to ignore the science and wear a mask to protect themselves then they should go ahead and do so.

    There is NO SCIENTIFIC reason and no legal right for them to require others to do so.

    The same applies at the grocery store and everywhere else.

    Paranoid people who refuse to acknowledge science should wear two, three or four masks of every type they feel comfortable with.

    Knock yourself out and play pretend but don't expect others to "pretend" with you.

    There is no sane reason to require other people to do so.
    there is no reason you can't make a non-harmful mask and wear it around paranoid doctors.  pick and choose your battles.


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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #77 on: February 07, 2022, 05:09:07 PM »
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  • anne  this is a very vulgar and crude statement, one you should never use, as it refers to the male anatomy.

    I read that and said to myself, "What???!!!" So I looked it up in the online slang dictionary. I'm filing their explanation of the "float" phrase under "Sounds like a bunch of made-up baloney."

    Reading their fantasy explanation I'll be careful not to use the phrase (I don't recall using the phrase though have heard it often), but I think they just have very vivid (and prurient) imaginations to come up with that one.

    The all-too-common phrase that makes me cringe is, "That s*cks!" I can't imagine a polite origin of that one, but I have even heard it from a couple of "trad" (???) women. Go figure.

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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #78 on: February 07, 2022, 05:16:20 PM »
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  • anne  this is a very vulgar and crude statement, one you should never use, as it refers to the male anatomy.

    I wasn't aware myself that this is a vulgar phrase.

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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #79 on: February 07, 2022, 07:17:03 PM »
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  • I wasn't aware myself that this is a vulgar phrase.

    The slang dictionary claimed it's a reference to the female anatomy, but I am dubious.


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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #80 on: February 07, 2022, 07:37:24 PM »
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  • I read that and said to myself, "What???!!!" So I looked it up in the online slang dictionary. I'm filing their explanation of the "float" phrase under "Sounds like a bunch of made-up baloney."

    Reading their fantasy explanation I'll be careful not to use the phrase (I don't recall using the phrase though have heard it often), but I think they just have very vivid (and prurient) imaginations to come up with that one.

    The all-too-common phrase that makes me cringe is, "That s*cks!" I can't imagine a polite origin of that one, but I have even heard it from a couple of "trad" (???) women. Go figure.
    Yeah.  I always took it to mean "whatever works for you".  I have never heard it being used in a vulgar way.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #81 on: February 07, 2022, 07:47:58 PM »
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  • I read that and said to myself, "What???!!!" So I looked it up in the online slang dictionary. I'm filing their explanation of the "float" phrase under "Sounds like a bunch of made-up baloney."

    Reading their fantasy explanation I'll be careful not to use the phrase (I don't recall using the phrase though have heard it often), but I think they just have very vivid (and prurient) imaginations to come up with that one.

    The all-too-common phrase that makes me cringe is, "That s*cks!" I can't imagine a polite origin of that one, but I have even heard it from a couple of "trad" (???) women. Go figure.
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=float%20boat&page=2

    been around a LONG time....

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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #82 on: February 07, 2022, 08:33:35 PM »
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  • https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=float%20boat&page=2

    been around a LONG time....

    My point is that, if there is such a connotation, many people are unaware of it and therefore there was no intent on Anne's part in using the expression.  I imagine that I've used the term myself unknowingly.


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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #83 on: February 07, 2022, 08:55:20 PM »
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  • Yeah.  I always took it to mean "whatever works for you".  I have never heard it being used in a vulgar way.
    That's pretty much what it's always meant. Why is there even a discussion on it? :facepalm:
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #84 on: February 07, 2022, 09:02:49 PM »
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  • https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=float%20boat&page=2

    been around a LONG time....

    I found all that, including this: "Comes from the term 'man in the boat' referring to the c******s and the female genitalia. So, if your boat is floating, you are quite happy." 
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whatever%20floats%20your%20boat

    So, yes, that is their claim. I just think the claim is stretched (and prurient). It doesn't make sense that it refers to both male and female anatomy. 

    Obviously, with this perspective, it is worth avoiding the phrase even though I am dubious of their explanation.

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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #85 on: February 07, 2022, 09:05:27 PM »
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  • That's pretty much what it's always meant. Why is there even a discussion on it? :facepalm:

    It seems that a few of us were surprised enough by the claim that it is a sɛҳuąƖ double entendre that we investigated and are skeptical of the claim.  There's plenty of nonsense on the internet.


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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #86 on: February 07, 2022, 10:10:54 PM »
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  • Aaand, it seems to have pushed a hot button on the board's new drama-queen as well..
    LOL. No "hot button." He can wear whatever he likes. It's no skin off my nose. Some people have been wearing FJB masks, some FJT masks, some religious masks, some tutty-fruity rainbown masks, and on and on--everything from hockey team masks to Barbie, and everything in-between.

    Heck, I've even seen people wearing bubble wrap costumes, and full-on hazmat suits. I could care less, really. If people want to "express themselves" or write messages on their masks, well, that's their problem, not mine. I find it amusing, myself, and a type of free entertainment/free laughs.

    Some people choose to wear multiple masks at once. Well, if they like breathing in their own expired CO2, then why should I care? If they want to wear them all day, everyday, inside and outside, (when they don't absolutely have to), well, that's their problem, not mine. 

    Like I said, whatever floats your boat.
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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #87 on: February 07, 2022, 10:16:28 PM »
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  • anne  this is a very vulgar and crude statement, one you should never use, as it refers to the male anatomy.
    What? Get your mind out of the gutter, for starters. It's a common expression here, and I grew up surrounded by water and boaters of all kinds. I have not heard of what "vulgarness" you are talking about, and nobody that I have heard it said, (nor used it with) would be implying that. 

    It's another way of saying, "Whatever makes you happy," or "Whatever you do is fine by me (because it doesn't affect me)," or "Sure, if that works for you, go for it."

    Where do you hang out? Weird. You might need a new hobby or something. 
    "The world is thy ship, and not thy home."--The Little Flower

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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #88 on: February 08, 2022, 02:44:19 AM »
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  • Just a note for consideration.  What is a private doctor?  The overwhelming number of doctors in the US are not in business for themselves.  They are part of huge medical conglomerates, medical corporations that run from a dozen to hundreds of hospitals, care homes, imaging and testing centers, and physicians’ group practices.  The chances of a doctor coming out of med school and hanging his shingle in front of his house with the living room and two side rooms converted into waiting area, office, and exam room; his family living in the back rooms and upstairs…well, those days are pretty much gone. Today’s doctor is not a private doctor who sets his hours, his own fees, his own policies.  He doesn’t hire his own office staff.  He’s very much a wage earner, not a private businessman.  
    If he IS truly private he is likely an older man/woman with no debt, well established, and extremely wealthy!  He’s still obliged to be part of the “system” in so far as certain protocols and keeping computerized records.  Since he’s not part of any conglomerate, he must purchase his own computers and record keeping equipment and train his own staff to use it.  The cost of classes for himself to use are his responsibility.  He must pay for his own office, it’s upkeep, keeping equipment up to date, and his own medical equipment from EKG machine to disposable gloves.  He must apply for, be accepted by, and pay for “hospital privileges.”  Unless he can afford to lose, not gain money, he can’t make a living on the paltry sums given him by patients’ insurance companies. He certainly cannot take patients on Medicare or Medicaid. His patients must be able to pay his fees out of pocket.  
    Obamacare forced the majority of private doctors to join a medical group, retire, or, if possible, switch out of mainstream medicine for specialties such as psychiatry, psychology, chiropractic and the like. Thousands of older physicians took early retirement in 2013-2016 rather than go hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt in order to convert their practices up to the new standards.  The US lost many excellent, experienced, and caring doctors, replacing them with the young, inexperienced, and in debt.  
    During the years 2014-2016, I personally went through five “personal care physicians,” all but one of whom retired.  The doctor who didn’t retire returned to his native England because he said if he was going to return to socialized medicine, he’d rather work for the NHS that was well established than be part of a system in the US that featured the worst of capitalism and the worst of socialism!  My parents and sister also kept “losing” doctors, mainly to early retirement. My nephews’ pediatrician was too young to retire, but having grown up in Canada and gone to medical school there, wanted no part of Obamacare.  Instead, she closed her thriving private practice, sold everything, and enrolled in veterinary school to specialize in horses. She’d wanted to do this in the first place but her parents were against it and refused to offer financial assistance.  
    Back to masks!  No, I don’t like them except for when you might be in each other’s face—like at the dentist or the ophthalmologist.  They can’t filter viruses, but they do prevent patient and doctor from sneezing, coughing, sharing bits of spittle, and smelling one another’s breath.  If they are utterly useless, why do surgeons wear them often along with face guards?  Why are they worn by medical workers on the Ebola ward?  Why, pre-Covid, did Asian nationals wear them when going out in public if they had a cold or were getting over the flu?  It was considered very rude to be frequently coughing, sneezing, or blowing one’s nose around others.
    Please realize that complaining to the doctor, unless he’s truly a PRIVATE ophthalmologist, will do no good.  It will only frustrate him because THERE’S NOTHING HE CAN DO ABOUT IT.  IT ISN’T HIS POLICY!  YOU’RE FIGHTING THE MEDICAL CORPORATION WHOSE BOSSES ARE BIG PHARMA, WHO, IN TURN, ARE FINANCED BY THE LIKES OF THE CDC AND WHO.  WHO FINANCES THEM?  WORLD LEADERS, “THE ELITE” WE KNOW, AND MORE THAT WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.  
    If anyone wants to make an issue of a mask, realize who you’re up against and that you’ll probably lose.  Your other choices are to find a private doctor and pay his fees, try to treat yourself via alternative medicine, a naturopath or sometimes a chiropractor, or put together your own remedies.  Check “Dr.” Google and pray a lot!  Or do what the poor have always done, go without.  If you go blind, you go blind.  

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    Re: Eye Doctor
    « Reply #89 on: February 08, 2022, 12:30:39 PM »
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  • 20 key insights into the world of independent physicians; 33% of US physicians are independent
    Megan Wood - Wednesday, October 19th, 2016
    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-physician-relationships/20-key-insights-into-the-world-of-independent-physicians-33-of-us-physicians-are-independent.html

    …and the trend continues.