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Offline Clemens Maria

Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2022, 06:37:55 PM »
Quote from: Mark 79 on February 06, 2022, 12:05:13 PM
…but the issue here is whether or not PRIVATE eye doctors should be FORCED to do what YOU want AGAINST their will.
No, the issue is whether or not PRIVATE eye doctors are allowed to FORCE YOU to do something(*) AGAINST your will.

* where the something is unrelated to the service they are providing and is an onerous imposition of a dangerous procedure.  If the doctor wants to wear a mask and a face shield and/or a respirator and/or a positive pressure protective suit, he is free to do that.  But he ought not be free to force his patients to undergo what amounts to a dangerous medical procedure without patient consent and without any reasonable purpose.
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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2022, 06:53:11 PM »
Quote from: Clemens Maria on February 06, 2022, 06:37:55 PM
No, the issue is whether or not PRIVATE eye doctors are allowed to FORCE YOU to do something(*) AGAINST your will.

* where the something is unrelated to the service they are providing and is an onerous imposition of a dangerous procedure.  If the doctor wants to wear a mask and a face shield and/or a respirator and/or a positive pressure protective suit, he is free to do that.  But he ought not be free to force his patients to undergo what amounts to a dangerous medical procedure without patient consent and without any reasonable purpose.

Nonsense.

You can exercise your free will choice to enter or not enter HIS property, yet you pretend you are justified in telling him under what circuмstances you will be allowed to enter HIS property.

Who the bloody hell do you think you are?

Do you think you can come in our home and tell us under what circuмstances you may enter?

Try it! You'll be making scratch marks on the prison walls to mark the days… if you are lucky.

What Marxist horse pookey!

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Offline Clemens Maria

Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2022, 06:53:47 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on February 06, 2022, 05:43:39 PM
I think people need to stop blending political issues with moral ones.

Unless what you're being asked to do is sinful and immoral, there's no sin even in complying with an unjust law.  Let's say a tyrant imposed a 10 MPH speed limit on the highways.  Unjust law.  But there's no sin, if you need to go somewhere, to simply drive under the 10MPH, as there's nothing inherently evil about driving slow. 

Surgeons are required to wear masks in order to operate on patients.  Workers sometimes are required to wear masks (e.g. if they're working with asbestos or something).

Our entire banking system is corrupt and unjust, but unless you go through it, you're not going to be able to buy a house or a car or a lot of other things you may need.

Just give it a rest and get your eyes examined, and then go home and call your local politicians to object, or picket in front of the Dr.'s office against the mask.
It's not just a political issue.  It is a political issue but that's not the end of it.  Bottom line is that it is immoral (and should be a crime) to coerce people into endangering their health for no reason.

Mark admitted that property owners don't have the right to criminally coerce customers/patients.  And both you and he agree that mandating masks is immoral.  So the only point of disagreement is whether or not it should be classified as a crime.  I think it should be at least a misdemeanor.  And if someone dies because of the mandate, it should be a felony manslaughter.  There is a video of a guy in Australia having a terrible asthma attack because he was forced to wear a mask by the cops.  He could have died.  Eye doctors can't be allowed to risk lives just because they are "woke".
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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2022, 07:06:42 PM »
Quote from: Clemens Maria on February 06, 2022, 06:53:47 PM
It's not just a political issue.  It is a political issue but that's not the end of it.  Bottom line is that it is immoral (and should be a crime) to coerce people into endangering their health for no reason.

Mark admitted that property owners don't have the right to criminally coerce customers/patients.  And both you and he agree that mandating masks is immoral.  So the only point of disagreement is whether or not it should be classified as a crime.  I think it should be at least a misdemeanor.  And if someone dies because of the mandate, it should be a felony manslaughter.  There is a video of a guy in Australia having a terrible asthma attack because he was forced to wear a mask by the cops.  He could have died.  Eye doctors can't be allowed to risk lives just because they are "woke".

Seriously.

Try to enter our property under your conditions.

Seriously.
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Offline Marion

Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2022, 07:45:14 PM »
I think you're right Mark 79, while Clemens Maria defends socialist/communist/nanny state ideas.
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