No, it is not reasonable for the reasons I outlined in my previous post. Maybe if you backed your assertion up with some facts, you might be able to change minds.
But in case you think it is just a few crazy trads who are opposed to mask mandates, you might want to read the following:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/illinois-judge-bars-schools-enforcing-mask-mandates-says-now-null-void/
Again, mask mandates, whether implemented by governments or by private businesses are not reasonable requests. And those who refuse to comply with unreasonable requests are not the ones who are wasting people's valuable time. It is the one's imposing unreasonable, dangerous and unhealthy requirements on the rest of us who are guilty.
Also, someone above implied that a business owner could require people to take all the clothes off in order to buy groceries. No, you are wrong. If you tried something like that you would be arrested. We don't live in a libertarian or anarchist society. We have community standards. Requiring people to strip for groceries is very blatant and no one would tolerate that. But masks are obviously not as blatant. But it is still unreasonable to require masks. In fact, for some people, mask wearing is extremely dangerous even risking death. But even for those of us who could tolerate wearing a mask, it is still risky. It might be less risky than say breathing in toxic dust but if you aren't in a dangerous environment, mask wearing should not be done. But the current mask requirements have an additional angle that no one has discussed so far. They are symbolic of submission to the communist regime. Some of us are very sensitive to that aspect of it. Personally, I would rather undergo great suffering than submit to a communist regime. So there's that too. LoT can make his own decisions. No one is going to judge him if he wears a mask to get his eyes checked out. But he has every right to make an appointment and not expect that the doctor is going to require him to wear a mask that doesn't even achieve its stated purpose.
I gave plenty of examples in my original post to the OP. You are in close personal space of the eye doctor, and he's in your close personal space. To explain it clearly, I even said, "within kissing distance." NORMAL PEOPLE only allow others into this close personal space for a GOOD REASON. Eg. Eye care. Otherwise, normally only a spouse or children or other loved ones or very close personal friends are going to be "allowed" into that space.
If someone has a cold and is hacking and sneezing all over, do you get up in their face? Probably not. Parents of small children know full well how snotty their little ones can get if they are sick and/or have runny noses, but that doesn't mean you, Joe Blow wants to be picking them up and cuddling them, and if you do, you will probably wash your hands.
So if an eye doctor wants you to wear a mask so he doesn't have to smell your garlic bread breath or have someone
accidentally spit on him while talking to him, what's the big deal? SARS-Cov2 is a Respiratory virus that is spread through *airborne droplets* that are transmitted from talking, sneezing, coughing singing, etc. (You can research what you like about it, I don't have the time or the energy to do everyone's homework for them).
I also indicated in my first post to you that eye doctors are "regulated professionals." We are talking about HEALTH CARE here. I bolded the part in your post about "community standards." Why? Because HEALTH CARE also needs to have Standards of Care. You don't want people walking around the stores without clothing on? Well, there needs to be minimum Standards in health care. If you go to an eye doctor in Florida, you can be reasonably certain you will receive similar care as in Idaho. How does this happen? Because of State and Federal Legislation that monitor training, cleanliness, competencies and so on. Each healthcare professional will have a "Scope of Practice." You can research that yourself also if you wish.
Masks have been part of health care since the 1800's, if not earlier. (I'm not going to drag out all my textbooks either--look it up if you want the exact date). There are various purposes, types and reasons for them, and this includes reducing infections. If the eye doctor is a regulated professional, then *he has to follow certain regulations* in order to practice, period. The eye doctor himself is likely NOT the one asking for masks to be worn in his office--it will almost always be coming from his Licensing Body making it a *uniform requirement.*
Without Standards of Care, you run the risk of some kid off the street doing eye exams and possibly hurting people. That's one example of many things that could go wrong. Without "Community Standards," you will have people showing up to do grocery shopping in the nude.
Requiring masks for healthcare is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT than "requiring" masks to do grocery shopping. There is higher risk of the patient and healthcare professional getting sick by being in closer contact than there is from a person going grocery shopping. However, the more a person is exposed to other people, the higher the risk of infection becomes. With certain diseases, (especially airborne ones, for example), many people can get sick VERY quickly, and with short, or repeated exposures.
Some diseases have varying "incubation periods." You could be feeling fine, but 2 days prior you came in contact with a fellow that is sick with TB, say. (Or SARS-Cov2 :-) This is what would be called "asymptomatic." You feel fine, because you aren't yet showing symptoms--symptoms are subjective items of being unwell--fatigue, aches, etc. Signs, are OBJECTIVE, and are measurable things like a fever, cough, sputum, red face, etc. You will most likely start to feel unwell AFTER being exposed to someone that is sick. That is where contact tracing comes in. Where did you get sick, perhaps? Well, you went to work with 100 people, and then went grocery shopping in a store of 50 people, and so on. Contact tracing works to identify what stage of the disease process is in play for each person EXPOSED to the illness (TB, etc.)
Are you putting some of the pieces together?
There is a time and a place for masks, and there are various types of masks for different purposes. They have LIMITED use in public settings, but that doesn't mean they are useless. Much of the problems with masks, is that 99% of the public will not know how to use and wear them properly nor discard them, because they haven't been properly taught methods of infection control, proper handwashing, and clean technique, etc. So for the vast public, they can do more harm than good, because people keep touching them, etc.
Health care professionals have been trained in their use. If you don't want to go to an eye doctor that requires a mask, then good luck. But then don't come back and complain if you go to a restaurant and find hair in your food because the cook forgot his hair net that day and the manager didn't enforce the "STANDARD," that is "REASONABLE," for food production services. Masks and hairnets are both in the same type of category of infection protection items for simplicity sake.
OVERREACH OF GOVT. is an entirely separate issue that has NOTHING to do with mask wearing, and has nothing to do with your statement about whether or not I think it's just "crazy Trads" objecting to them, or however you phrased it. Keep the issues straight. There are multiple ones that have NOTHING to do with "Communism" and everything to do with providing High-quality and safe, competent healthcare.
Masks in healthcare aren't going anywhere, so sorry to disappoint people.
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