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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2022, 09:50:40 PM »
Again, mask mandates, whether implemented by governments or by private businesses are not reasonable requests.  …

It is not reasonable to expect any person to submit to your opinions.*

You can't "opt out" of .gov/.zog (yet!), so you only have two choices, submit or fight.  I'm in favor of that fight and so I am fighting mandates and supporting FLCCCA.

You can "opt out" of private businesses. "Shop" elsewhere. No need to be a control freak and bend everyone to your will.  If a businessman insists you wear mismatched Argyle socks or honk a clown horn to patronize his business, that his prerogative, not yours.  It's not your business.

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I would rather undergo great suffering than submit to a communist regime.

At the risk of being blunt, your insistence on bending private businesses to be controlled by your opinions is emblematic of communism. Your enraged control-freak approach (sorry to be blunt again) is antithetical to private property rights. Your insistence on controlling another man's private business epitomizes (((communism))).


*Your children or wife must submit to your orders, but you can not actually force them to submit to your opinions. You have no "right" to deny another's free will.




So I should play along and pretend?

No. Shop elsewhere.

Three of my specialists annoyed me about COVID and other vaccines. I cited the research against their nonsense firmly and politely (surprised, eh?) and never went back. I replaced those three specialists with three excellent doctors. Easy-peasey and I violated nobody's private property rights. I violated nobody's rights to be idiots.

As I said, there are hills to die on.   Destroying private property rights like some Jew Marxist should not be a Catholic's cause.

Fight .gov/.zog AND don't shop with idiots.

Offline Mark 79

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Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2022, 10:24:03 PM »
Don't be like the fαɢɢօts who force private businesses to bake them cakes.


Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2022, 10:26:38 PM »
You can "opt out" of private businesses. "Shop" elsewhere. No need to be a control freak and bend everyone to your will.  If a businessman insists you wear mismatched Argyle socks or honk a clown horn to patronize his business, that his prerogative, not yours.  It's not your business.

This isn't an anarchist country.  We don't allow people absolute self-determination.  So you are correct that I can't impose my arbitrary opinions on others.  But that's not what we are talking about here.  We are talking about the doctor imposing his arbitrary opinions on us as a condition of providing service.  He does have the right to impose reasonable conditions on us.  And he has fairly wide latitude in that regard.  But he doesn't have an absolute right to impose any condition whatsoever that he fancies.  The example I gave was requiring stripping clothes off.  That actually could be reasonable if he is a GP or a dermatologist and he needs to examine your body to identify health issues.  But an eye doctor couldn't have a general requirement for all patients to take off their clothes.  We call that perversion and people will go to jail for that kind of behavior.  Mask mandates are not that blatant.  But they are still unreasonable.  No one should be allowed to coerce us into covering up our faces for no good reason.  So I'm pretty sure you are not advocating for decriminalizing perverse behavior (or what little of it is still considered criminal).  But you apparently think that mask mandates by private individuals are fair game.  I disagree.  I don't care if the communist is a government or an individual.

At the risk of being blunt, your insistence on bending private businesses to be controlled by your opinions is emblematic of communism. Your enraged control-freak approach (sorry to be blunt again) is antithetical to private property rights. Your insistence on controlling another man's private business epitomizes (((communism))).

Three of my specialists annoyed me about COVID and other vaccines. I cited the research against their nonsense firmly and politely (surprised, eh?) and never went back. I replaced those three specialists with three excellent doctors. Easy-peasey and I violated nobody's private property rights. I violated nobody's rights to be idiots.

I see why Marion likes to get your goat.  You like to build up straw men and then slay them.  Good for you.

Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2022, 11:10:01 PM »
It is not reasonable to expect any person to submit to your opinions.*

You can't "opt out" of .gov/.zog (yet!), so you only have two choices, submit or fight.  I'm in favor of that fight and so I am fighting mandates and supporting FLCCCA.

You can "opt out" of private businesses. "Shop" elsewhere. No need to be a control freak and bend everyone to your will.  If a businessman insists you wear mismatched Argyle socks or honk a clown horn to patronize his business, that his prerogative, not yours.  It's not your business.

At the risk of being blunt, your insistence on bending private businesses to be controlled by your opinions is emblematic of communism. Your enraged control-freak approach (sorry to be blunt again) is antithetical to private property rights. Your insistence on controlling another man's private business epitomizes (((communism))).


*Your children or wife must submit to your orders, but you can not actually force them to submit to your opinions. You have no "right" to deny another's free will.


No. Shop elsewhere.

Three of my specialists annoyed me about COVID and other vaccines. I cited the research against their nonsense firmly and politely (surprised, eh?) and never went back. I replaced those three specialists with three excellent doctors. Easy-peasey and I violated nobody's private property rights. I violated nobody's rights to be idiots.

As I said, there are hills to die on.  Destroying private property rights like some Jєω Marxist should not be a Catholic's cause.

Fight .gov/.zog AND don't shop with idiots.


This is why the WEF controllers are establishing a "public-private partnership" so they can have it both ways.  It's not really traditional communism but Stakeholder Capitalism.  It's stealthy and incremental.  Death by a thousand cuts.

They are incrementally imposing fake government mandates and then back off and come at us through the private sector by providing financial incentives and fines to businesses to entice them to comply.  Back and forth they will go, throttling the masses to comply.

Either way we are facing unjust laws, "mandates", "rules", "policies" etc. to conduct necessary business (BUY FOOD and GET MEDICAL CARE) in order to survive. 

Private property rights are important but they do not trump all other rights with carte blanche for every kind of injustice in society.

As for the FLCCC they are anti science.

They are promoting the wearing of masks, social distancing, and early treatment for "Covid 19".  What exactly is Covid 19?  WHO THE HELL KNOWS?  No one can say.

They have protocols for "Post Covid 19 exposure".

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? lol

Someone tested positive for something that has never been isolated and identified and you were around them???

There is no test.  There is no identified virus.

Is it a cold, the flu, radiation from a 5G tower, graphene in the lungs from wearing a mask or taking a test up the nose or spraying the skies, the Omnicron, the MU, the son of MU.....join in the fun and the delusion! 

One thing we know for sure-----it ain't a virus that anyone can identify!

Matthew has been posting about the people who go along with delusional practices because everyone else is doing it.  Masks, "social distancing" and the diagnoses of Covid 19 are all examples of this mass delusional psychosis.

If you can go along with it and still look in the mirror then all right for you.  I for one cannot.

"But FLCCC are the brave frontline doctors who are promoting Ivermectin for early treatment and probably want to make America Great Again so we support them with all our heart.  They are on our side."  smh

Truth mixed with lies.

Ivermectin can treat colds, flu, radiation, parasites, and other illnesses because it kills parasites and increases oxygen in the cells.

That's great but using it doesn't tell you that what you had was something called "Covid 19".

The more we play into their delusion the more power they have to control us through the electron microscope surveillance state.  Trust the experts.  They know if you're sick even if you have no symptoms. Don't breath.  Don't go outside.  Don't talk to a neighbor.  You are a menace to society until they give you the green light. 

If you have sniffles or a sore throat go straight to a "frontline doctor" who will give you Ivermectin.  If you feel better it's clear you really had "Covid 19" and you can thank them for curing you. Thank goodness for "early detection".

In any case, when you can no longer buy food unless you submit to gene editing and provide your palm scan to prove it will you still support the "private property rights" of the grocery stores?

Clearly the only remnant to survive will have to become self sustaining and off grid in the strictest sense of the word.













Offline Mark 79

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Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2022, 11:14:56 PM »
This isn't an anarchist country. 

Straw man. I proposed no "anarchy," only asserted private property rights recognized in numerous pre-V2 papal encyclicals.

Was Pope Leo XIII an anarchist?



We don't allow people absolute self-determination. 

Another straw man. I never proposed "absolute" self-determination.

So you are correct that I can't impose my arbitrary opinions on others.  But that's not what we are talking about here.  We are talking about the doctor imposing his arbitrary opinions on us as a condition of providing service. 

The eye doctor has the right to paint his office any color and to insist on other non-criminal  policies.


He does have the right to impose reasonable conditions on us.
 

He has the right to impose unreasonable non-criminal conditions.


And he has fairly wide latitude in that regard. 

Yes, so wide a latitude that he can make unreasonable non-criminal conditions.

But he doesn't have an absolute right to impose any condition whatsoever that he fancies.  The example I gave was requiring stripping clothes off. 

If you offer such ridiculous examples, I respond with a ridiculous counter-example of a nudist eye doctor.

That actually could be reasonable if he is a GP or a dermatologist and he needs to examine your body to identify health issues. 

Not at all reasonable.

But an eye doctor couldn't have a general requirement for all patients to take off their clothes.  We call that perversion and people will go to jail for that kind of behavior. 

I have previously clearly stated that you have no "right" to force others to your will. Forcing sex or nudism is among those things that you and the eye doctor have no "right" to insist.

I have specifically defended non-criminal requirements, even if they are idiotic (e.g., mismatched socks and clown horns).



Mask mandates are not that blatant.  But they are still unreasonable. 

Yes, unreasonable, unjustified by honest science. So what? As long as he is not forcing his will on you or committing a crime, he can be unreasonable.

You are free to choose the reasonable thing: Shop elsewhere.


No one should be allowed to coerce us into covering up our faces for no good reason. 

Did someone strong arm you and force you to see the unreasonable idiot eye doctor?

Or do you have a choice to shop elsewhere?


So I'm pretty sure you are not advocating for decriminalizing perverse behavior (or what little of it is still considered criminal). 

Thank you for crediting me with a token of good sense.

But you apparently think that mask mandates by private individuals are fair game.

What is "fair game"?  Mask mandates are stupidly harmful. Are they legal? Yes.  Do i avoid them when able? Yes.

I gave examples of avoiding idiots, "shopping elsewhere," changing doctors.  Is it "fair game" to shop elsewhere. I think so.



 I disagree.  I don't care if the communist is a government or an individual.

If and when the private individual forces you to don a mask at the point of a gun or imprisonment, you'd have a point. As long as you have the right to shop elsewhere, you have no point.



I see why Marion likes to get your goat.  You like to build up straw men and then slay them.  Good for you.


What "straw man" have I offered?

I have simply stated that:

(1) regarding private businesses, you can shop elsewhere.

(2) Control-freaks and Communists seek to control private businesses.

_IF_ you think you should not be forced to bake a wedding cake for fαɢɢօts, you should also believe a private doctor should not be forced to allow you maskless in HIS office.