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Offline Aleah

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Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2022, 03:18:06 PM »
I'm sorry if this is off topic but I am trying to find help where I can get it.  We don't mask and we cannot find an eye doctor that will take us.  We have actually called down to Jacksonville Florida to see if they would take us and they would.  It would be an 11 hour drive, non-stop, a stay at a hotel, appointment the next day, stay at the hotel and an 11 hour drive back plus the stops for eating and restroom, on a single income from a peon who could lose his job at any time because he won't get the inoculation.

Does anyone know where in NW Virginia or anywhere closer to that than Florida their might be an eye doctor who will see us if we refuse to suffocate ourselves.

I'm even open to getting a lawyer to help us if we can find one.  Any advise, regarding eye doctors or lawyers would be very much appreciated.
I can give you an eye doctor closer to you that doesn't require a mask but it will still be a good drive. Send me a personal message and we can discuss.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2022, 03:34:48 PM »
Being required to wear a mask is NOT the same thing as being required to wear a shirt.  Can a supermarket owner require you to take off all your clothes (or worse) in order to buy food?  No, of course not!  He would go to jail for that.

Well, theoretically he could.  If you don't want to take your clothes off, then you don't go to that particular grocery store.  I'm sure there are many perverse types of businesses out there.  Not that these are acceptable in a Christian / Catholic society.  There are all kinds of gimmick businesses out there.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2022, 03:42:37 PM »
When I've had contractors come over to do work on my house (plumbers, HVAC, etc.) when they show up wearing a mask I tell them they don't have to wear one if they don't want to.  Most of them are relieved and immediately take them off.  One HVAC guy said there was an old lady who insisted he wear a mask while fixing her AC unit OUTDOORS (while she was indoors).  She watched him out he window to make sure he didn't take the mask off.  Says he almost passed out from the heat.  He was incredibly grateful that I told him he didn't have to wear one.  Then I explain to them that the masks are useless.  But I also tell them that if it makes them uncomfortable I would put on a mask.  Some people are legitimately scared of COVID and think they are being subjected to a life-threatening situation.  I'm not going to force that on them either from my bull pulpit.  I'll take the opportunity to try to educate them, but I'm not going to subject them to mortal terror either simply because I have some "principle" to uphold.

There were a couple times that this led to conversations where we found out that we both had the same views about COVID being a hoax and I made friends with the handyman.

Unlike jabs, the masks are not inherently a moral issue.  If there were a Catholic monarch who ordred that people wear masks because there was a real pandemic going around, I'd feel obligated to wear a mask.  We have to be careful too much not to buy too much into the idea that we have all these "freedoms" and "rights" ... even if we use those as weapons to attck the evildoers.

Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2022, 07:28:25 PM »
Wearing a mask to an eye doctor or optometrist is perfectly reasonable.

No, it is not reasonable for the reasons I outlined in my previous post.  Maybe if you backed your assertion up with some facts, you might be able to change minds.

But in case you think it is just a few crazy trads who are opposed to mask mandates, you might want to read the following:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/illinois-judge-bars-schools-enforcing-mask-mandates-says-now-null-void/

Again, mask mandates, whether implemented by governments or by private businesses are not reasonable requests.  And those who refuse to comply with unreasonable requests are not the ones who are wasting people's valuable time.  It is the one's imposing unreasonable, dangerous and unhealthy requirements on the rest of us who are guilty.

Also, someone above implied that a business owner could require people to take all the clothes off in order to buy groceries.  No, you are wrong.  If you tried something like that you would be arrested.  We don't live in a libertarian or anarchist society.  We have community standards.  Requiring people to strip for groceries is very blatant and no one would tolerate that.  But masks are obviously not as blatant.  But it is still unreasonable to require masks.  In fact, for some people, mask wearing is extremely dangerous even risking death.  But even for those of us who could tolerate wearing a mask, it is still risky.  It might be less risky than say breathing in toxic dust but if you aren't in a dangerous environment, mask wearing should not be done.  But the current mask requirements have an additional angle that no one has discussed so far.  They are symbolic of submission to the communist regime.  Some of us are very sensitive to that aspect of it.  Personally, I would rather undergo great suffering than submit to a communist regime.  So there's that too.  LoT can make his own decisions.  No one is going to judge him if he wears a mask to get his eyes checked out.  But he has every right to make an appointment and not expect that the doctor is going to require him to wear a mask that doesn't even achieve its stated purpose.

Re: Eye Doctor
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2022, 07:57:45 PM »
No, it is not reasonable for the reasons I outlined in my previous post.  Maybe if you backed your assertion up with some facts, you might be able to change minds.

But in case you think it is just a few crazy trads who are opposed to mask mandates, you might want to read the following:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/illinois-judge-bars-schools-enforcing-mask-mandates-says-now-null-void/

Again, mask mandates, whether implemented by governments or by private businesses are not reasonable requests.  And those who refuse to comply with unreasonable requests are not the ones who are wasting people's valuable time.  It is the one's imposing unreasonable, dangerous and unhealthy requirements on the rest of us who are guilty.

Also, someone above implied that a business owner could require people to take all the clothes off in order to buy groceries.  No, you are wrong.  If you tried something like that you would be arrested.  We don't live in a libertarian or anarchist society.  We have community standards.  Requiring people to strip for groceries is very blatant and no one would tolerate that.  But masks are obviously not as blatant.  But it is still unreasonable to require masks.  In fact, for some people, mask wearing is extremely dangerous even risking death.  But even for those of us who could tolerate wearing a mask, it is still risky.  It might be less risky than say breathing in toxic dust but if you aren't in a dangerous environment, mask wearing should not be done.  But the current mask requirements have an additional angle that no one has discussed so far. They are symbolic of submission to the communist regime.  Some of us are very sensitive to that aspect of it.  Personally, I would rather undergo great suffering than submit to a communist regime.  So there's that too.  LoT can make his own decisions.  No one is going to judge him if he wears a mask to get his eyes checked out.  But he has every right to make an appointment and not expect that the doctor is going to require him to wear a mask that doesn't even achieve its stated purpose.
Yes! to what I highlighted in your post above!

There is no medical reason for masks.

Just like in Islam they are a symbol.

They symbolize SUBMISSION.

They are a humiliation ritual.

They are a part of mass psychosis.

"Well, if they make somebody else feel better."

Somebody who is delusional feels better if I wear something?

So I should play along and pretend?

I should cover the image of God given to me to make them feel better?

Do children feel better living in a world where everyone pretends they'll die a sudden, horrible death if you don't wear a mask?

Certainly not.  The psychological damage being done to them is a horror!

They are being led to believe that simply breathing is some kind of mortal sin!

Should I also call men "women"?

Some people are distressed and feel bad if I don't.

They want me to use their pronouns.

Should I call two men "married"?

Some hospitals require staff to wear rainbow pins for pride month.

Should they go along to make people feel better?

It could cost them their job.

Some people want me to call them a dog or a cat and "woof" or "meow" at them.

Should I refuse or go along to get along?

This is how communism works, Folks.

Choose your own line in the sand but don't dis those who refuse to comply and are willing to suffer for it.

Maybe you can't do it in your particular circuмstances but we should be grateful to those who have fought back and won.

Good for them!

Your line in the sand is coming right around the corner.

After all,

if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.