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Offline Jews Did 911

Re: Extreme Long Range Shooting
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2019, 12:32:55 PM »
The issue with Remington is the Marlins suffering in poor quality after Freedom Group bought out Remington & Marlin, and subsequently Remington making the Marlins. Marlins' quality suffered a lot because they moved manufacturing to a different state. At the very least, the tooling & machining was not up to par. I heard the original manufacturing plant sabotaged the tooling & machine when they learned they were losing their jobs after Freedom Group bought them out. Who knows if it's true, but the quality of the Marlins definitely suffered when Remington started making them.

The Remington 700 rifles never suffered. They've retained high customer reviews. The ADL doesn't have the same quality finish as the BDL & CDL models, that's why it's less expensive, but it retains the same superior 700 action and, to my knowledge, barrels.

Remington even has great reviews on their 1911s, and RM380, and their RP series pistols.

They still make great shotguns, too.
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Online Bonaventure

Re: Extreme Long Range Shooting
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2019, 02:08:39 PM »
Quote from: Jews Did 911 on September 01, 2019, 12:32:55 PM
The issue with Remington is the Marlins suffering in poor quality after Freedom Group bought out Remington & Marlin, and subsequently Remington making the Marlins. Marlins' quality suffered a lot because they moved manufacturing to a different state. At the very least, the tooling & machining was not up to par. I heard the original manufacturing plant sabotaged the tooling & machine when they learned they were losing their jobs after Freedom Group bought them out. Who knows if it's true, but the quality of the Marlins definitely suffered when Remington started making them.

The Remington 700 rifles never suffered. They've retained high customer reviews. The ADL doesn't have the same quality finish as the BDL & CDL models, that's why it's less expensive, but it retains the same superior 700 action and, to my knowledge, barrels.

Remington even has great reviews on their 1911s, and RM380, and their RP series pistols.

They still make great shotguns, too.

The Rem 700's have never suffered?  Don't know where you get your information to support that statement.  Like I said, take one from 40 years ago and compare it to one made in the last 10.  Night-and-day difference.  My smith won't even work on a Rem 700 made in the past 10-15 years... he's said that the ones that have come into his shop are so out spec, good luck trying to get an after-market barrel on them with their horrible threads, and it's futile to try to true/blue-print them. 

If all you're interested in is shooting some deer at 100yds, sure, they'll work.  Beyond that, it's essentially the luck of the draw as to what sort of rifle you'll get.
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Online Bonaventure

Re: Extreme Long Range Shooting
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2019, 02:46:16 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on September 01, 2019, 11:43:17 AM
Conversely, .338 LM can hit a target at 2 miles, and claims the longest recorded kill shot ever.

Actually, longest (and second longest) kill shot was with a 50 BMG. (7 out of the top 10 longest kill shots were with a 50 BMG).  

As for the longest .338 Lapua kill shot @ ~2,700 yds (~1.5 miles), it was with an Accuracy International L115A3, a rifle set-up coming in at just under $40k.    

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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Extreme Long Range Shooting
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2019, 04:50:37 PM »
Quote from: Bonaventure on September 01, 2019, 02:46:16 PM
Actually, longest (and second longest) kill shot was with a 50 BMG. (7 out of the top 10 longest kill shots were with a 50 BMG).  

As for the longest .338 Lapua kill shot @ ~2,700 yds (~1.5 miles), it was with an Accuracy International L115A3, a rifle set-up coming in at just under $40k.    

Is there a lay-away plan? :laugh1:
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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Extreme Long Range Shooting
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2019, 05:44:12 PM »
Quote from: Jews Did 911 on September 01, 2019, 12:10:31 PM
Very true. At least with the .308, you can get semi long distance shots that retain good energy, and inexpensively. .223 will give you good flatness and with the 26 inch heavy barrel, more velocity and higher than usual energy compared to standard .223 ballistics, and also inexpensively.

.338 Lapua is a true long range, high energy cartridge, but very expensive.
Even my best handloads of .308 (Berger 185gn Juggernauts, H4895 40.5gn, CCI BR2, Lapua brass) cost only $1/rd with virgin brass, while my .338LM, though less than the best Berger commercial  $5/rd, still run about $4/rd with virgin brass (Berger 300gn OTM Hybrid, Retumbo 90.5gn, CCI LR Mag, Lapua brass).
Stepping up to .375CT, .416 Barrett, and .50BMG is even more pricey, but necessary if you want to be KO2M (King of 2 Mile).
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