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Did fire breathing dragons ever exist?

Yes
7 (30.4%)
No
5 (21.7%)
Not sure
7 (30.4%)
Yes but minus the fire breathing part
4 (17.4%)

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Did fire breathing dragons ever exist?
« on: June 24, 2021, 02:39:21 PM »
Discuss and provide evidence if you have any please.

Re: Did fire breathing dragons ever exist?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2021, 02:57:26 PM »
Maybe dragons were dinosaurs? What did St. George kill?


Offline Emile

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Re: Did fire breathing dragons ever exist?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2021, 03:17:31 PM »
St. John of Damascus on Dragons
Saturday, December 31, 2011 by Isaac

For we trust the teaching of Moses, and, more exactly, the Holy Spirit, having spoken through [the prophet]. This [teaching] reads: And God brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them; and whatsoever [Adam] called every living creature, that was the name thereof (cf. Gen. 2:19). Hence, a dragon was one of the animals. I am not telling you, after all, that there are no dragons; dragons exist but they are serpents borne of other serpents. Being just born and young, they are small; but when they grow up and get mature, they become big and fat so that exceed the other serpents in length and size. It is said they grow up more than thirty cubits; as for their thickness, they get as thick as a big log. Dio the Roman (A.D. 155 – 236) who wrote the history of Roman empire and republic, reports the following: one day, when Regulus, a Roman consul, was fighting against Carthage, a dragon suddenly crept up and settled behind the wall of the Roman army. The Romans killed it by order of Regulus, excoriated it and sent the hide to the Roman senate. When the dragon’s hide, as Dio says, was measured up by order of the senate, it happened to be, amazing, one hundred and twenty feet long, and the thickness was fitting to the length.”
“There is one more kind of dragon; those have wide head, goldish eyes and horny protuberances on the back of the head. They also have a beard [protruding] out of the throat; this kind of dragons is called “agaphodemons” and it is said they have no faces. This dragon is a sort of beasts, like the rest of the animals, for it has a beard, like a goat, and horn at the back of its head. Its eyes are big and goldish. These dragons can be both big and small. All serpent kinds are poisonous, except dragons, for they do not emit poison.”
– St. John of Damascus, On Dragons (unavailable in English, but excerpted in an English article here)

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Did fire breathing dragons ever exist?
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2021, 03:18:20 PM »
Well, even today, Komodo dragons (and some other types of lizards) can spit acid about 20 feet.  Acid burns things, so maybe that's what they had in mind with regard to "breathing fire".  Then, before the flood, there were much larger lizards, some of which were likely called dragons.

bσɱbardier beetles actually squirt a couple different chemicals into a reaction chamber from which there's a reaction and they puff out this boiling acid.

So who knows?  God could of course easily design such a create.

So based on the Komodo dragon which can spit acid, I voted yet ... with the stipulation that what was meant by "breathing fire" is actually a reference to spitting acid (before the nature of acid was known from a chemical perspective).

Re: Did fire breathing dragons ever exist?
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2021, 04:35:08 PM »
Maybe. There's fossils of gigantic reptiles found all over from before the Deluge, so there's a sure precedent for Dragons of some form. As for breathing fire, I have no idea. Recall that in antiquity it was believed that Salamanders were born from fire, only later for it to be found that they inhabited some of the logs that were used to build fires.