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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Catholic Bunker => Topic started by: Belloc on August 08, 2012, 03:07:57 PM
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after these many discussions, was wondering-any fellow Celts here?
Anyone try to joint the Celtic League group? applied, never got a packet....
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I'm a mixed bag of Irish, Scottish, Welsh as well as English, French, Apache, Cherokee, and Mexican Indian. Do I qualify?
I suppose that makes me a Mutt-American.
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I'm a mixed bag of Irish, Scottish, Welsh as well as English, French, Apache, Cherokee, and Mexican Indian. Do I qualify?
I suppose that makes me a Mutt-American.
"The Welsh keep the Sabbath. And everything else they can get their hands on.
The Scottish pray on their knees. And on their neighbors.
The Irish don't know what they want. But are willing to die for it"
Don't know about the Cornish, Manx or Bretons.
Scots-Irish myself.
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100%
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I'm a mixed bag of Irish, Scottish, Welsh as well as English, French, Apache, Cherokee, and Mexican Indian. Do I qualify?
I suppose that makes me a Mutt-American.
:laugh2:
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100%
cool, what nations?
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I'm partly Irish. Has anyone here ever tried to learn Gaelic, or another Celtic language? I've made half-hearted attempts, but haven't made much progress. I've learnt Castilian & can read Portuguese, am working on German now, but have found Gaelic much more difficult than any of the others due to the lack of cognates, the non-phonemic orthography & the initial mutations. If anyone is interested in it, there is a course on Irish Gaelic available for free on the internet at Erin's web, if I remember right.
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I am not good w/languages and not living in Celtic community, of course, makes it far harder. FOund some sites that have online tutorials, but using, and storing those lessons in the gray matter no easy.....no use, you lose kinda thing....
but, yes, would like to learn Gaelic....
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Yes, I'm about as white as they come. Half Norweigan, the other half is a mix of the Celtic isles-- with Irish being the least, Welsh, Scotch and English taking up the majority. Paternal Grandmother is from Liverpool.
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anglo snuck in?? :shocked:
Just kidding, my mother is a proud Anglo, though like to remind her that her G-father, despite living and leaving an English port to the USA, the family name is from Cornwall
If yo uwere to see me, I am in apperance Germanic, owing to mainly Bavarian, Prussian and a few others from German points unk......
I have always been attracked to my Celtic heritage first......
Noted elsewhere, might-though no definitive proof-have some Indian (aka Native American). Would like to do a DNA test, but would not trust where my sample would wind up :wink:
Even got a kilt, though wold have to take in again and huge on me now (got it when I was more then 50 lbs heavier)
Trying to find a way to possibly squeeze into Scotland prior to the 2014 vote, was told in email by the SNP head that residents at that time, under UK law, might get option of Scottish citizenship......that would be great. Wrote a paper when I was a young lad, carrer goal? Scottish President :smile:
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cool, what nations?
Dèanta ann an Alba.
Alba an Aigh!!
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Scottish Independance NOW!
(there is a site on FB group, cannot locate on google at present and FB blocked where I am)
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wow, now up to 3 ignores.....
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Utterly Irish, on both sides of the family.
However, I am sure some will persist in believing I must really be Jєωιѕн. :wink:
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Utterly Irish, on both sides of the family.
However, I am sure some will persist in believing I must really be Jєωιѕн. :wink:
:laugh1: :laugh2:
(or, a Tinkerer :laugh1:)
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My great grandparents on both sides came from Cork. I was at the mass yesterday that closed out the An Re Rah Irish festival in Butte, which was organized by the Ancient Order of Hibernians. It was dedicated to the victims of the starvation. Sinn Fein.
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wow, now up to 3 ignores.....
Sorry Belloc, I accidently gave your post a thumbs up. I can't understand why anyone would put you on ignore. I rather enjoy many of your posts.
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Irish Catholic from Waterford on my father's side.
Descended from English/Scottish puritans and methodists on my mother's side.
Being Catholic, I always identified with my Irish half.
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Grandparents on my mother's side were from Castlebar, Co. Mayo. My Grandfather on my father's side was from Nenagh, Co. Tipperary. Don't know which Co. in Ireland my Grandmother on my dad's side was from. As far as I know my lineage were all Catholics. I even have a relative that was an Archbishop. Until recently I always believed I was 100% Irish and it wasn't until my sister started tracing our family tree that I discovered I have some Welch blood too.
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My great grandparents on both sides came from Cork. I was at the mass yesterday that closed out the An Re Rah Irish festival in Butte, which was organized by the Ancient Order of Hibernians. It was dedicated to the victims of the starvation. Sinn Fein.
there wa an article at one time on Sungenis' site, a thesis paper or something by a lady that traced much of famine to the English Prot missionaries....
basically, the Irish, to them were sub-humans that would only get aid and food if they went into heresy......nice, lovely folks :really-mad2:
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Irish Catholic from Waterford on my father's side.
Descended from English/Scottish puritans and methodists on my mother's side.
Being Catholic, I always identified with my Irish half.
me too, or I say "pre-Reformation ENglish", that gets some :confused1: from people......I have always Id best with Scottish side...followed by German.... :cheers:
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Anyone know the translation to Gaelic of Myself ALone ??
Sinn___? or __Fein??
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http://www.maryjones.us/jce/cyhiraeth.html
Celtic dictionary, found online, not had time to preview it yet, so bit of caution....
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Belloc, I had a look at the linked dictionary, & must warn you that it appears to be written by infidels, they use the Judaic C.E., rather than A.D. in the articles in their encyclopaedia, also there are many articles on druidic feast days, ancient pagan gods & so forth, but none on the Church, St. Patrick, St. Columba, St. David &c.
Continuing on the subject of the Celts, I find it interesting that many other European countries have a history of Celtic habitation. There were Celts in Portugal, Spain, northern Italy, Bavaria, Austria, Czechoslovakia & even Turkey, in addition to the more well known countries. I would imagine therefore, that many Bavarians, Portuguese &c., have some Celtic blood.
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Continuing on the subject of the Celts, I find it interesting that many other European countries have a history of Celtic habitation. There were Celts in Portugal, Spain, northern Italy, Bavaria, Austria, Czechoslovakia & even Turkey, in addition to the more well known countries. I would imagine therefore, that many Bavarians, Portuguese &c., have some Celtic blood.
I was going to ask.... would my Iberian blood get a foot in the door? :smirk:
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Continuing on the subject of the Celts, I find it interesting that many other European countries have a history of Celtic habitation. There were Celts in Portugal, Spain, northern Italy, Bavaria, Austria, Czechoslovakia & even Turkey, in addition to the more well known countries. I would imagine therefore, that many Bavarians, Portuguese &c., have some Celtic blood.
I was going to ask.... would my Iberian blood get a foot in the door? :smirk:
Isn't there a connection between the peoples of Northern Spain, particularly the Basques, and the Irish?
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What is the difference between Celtic and Gaelic?
:facepalm:
For all you jokers out there, :jester:
this is not a riddle but a serious question.
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I got convict blood! with a bit of Scottish and Welsh thrown in. Far as I know I've been spared the English.
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What is the difference between Celtic and Gaelic?
:facepalm:
For all you jokers out there, :jester:
this is not a riddle but a serious question.
Gaelic is the traditional language of the Irish. Celtic isn't a language. The Celts (pronounced Kelts) are one of the principal tribes of Europe, like the Latin, Germanic, and Slavic peoples.
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Continuing on the subject of the Celts, I find it interesting that many other European countries have a history of Celtic habitation. There were Celts in Portugal, Spain, northern Italy, Bavaria, Austria, Czechoslovakia & even Turkey, in addition to the more well known countries. I would imagine therefore, that many Bavarians, Portuguese &c., have some Celtic blood.
I was going to ask.... would my Iberian blood get a foot in the door? :smirk:
Isn't there a connection between the peoples of Northern Spain, particularly the Basques, and the Irish?
I've read that there's a connection between the Galicians and the Irish. Galician folk music is very similar to Irish folk music.
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The Celtic people of Spain are related to the Irish & Scottish Gaels. The Basques speak a non-indo-european language which is not related to any other known language, tho' in grammatical structure it is similar to the Hungarian, Finnish & Turkic languages. The Celtiberians were a mixture of Celtic & Basque tribes, with the Celtic element apparently being the more dominant.
The few fragmentary inscriptions written in the ancient Celtic language spoken in Iberia are clearly goidelic (pertaining to the Gaelic languages of Irish & Scottish Gaelic & Manx). This is also attested by the ancient traditions of the Irish people regarding their origins, which have always maintained that their ancestors, the Milesians in 1700 B.C. (hope I'm right, going by memory here) or so, sailed from Spain & conquered the island.
Before their arrival in Spain, they had sojourned in Egypt & before this they had lived in Scythia, the land of their origin according to the mediaeval Irish historians. The term Celtic signifies the race of Celts in general, whereas Gaelic means the people of Ireland, the Scottish highlands & Hebrides & the Isle of Man in particular.There is a very interesting article in the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica on the Celts which goes into great detail, it's well worth reading.
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Thanks, guitarplucker and Cuthbert!
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I got convict blood! with a bit of Scottish and Welsh thrown in. Far as I know I've been spared the English.
Perhaps the English have been spared you.
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I got convict blood! with a bit of Scottish and Welsh thrown in. Far as I know I've been spared the English.
Perhaps the English have been spared you.
When I said I was "spared the English", I meant that I think, though I could be wrong, that there is no English blood running in my veins. It was a joke, though I see you didn't get it, and maybe nobody else for that matter.
Not that I hate the English. On the contrary, I am quite fond of the English. I thank God that some of my (Irish) ancestors were sent to this wonderful island continent so many years ago. The story is that one of them was sent for breaking a teapot, though I didn't get the full picture. Maybe it was broken over somebody's head.
BTW, the English were not altogether spared me. I did reside there for a while. They seemed to like me well enough!
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Some of earliest Celts in Scotland were described if I recall as dark complected-no, not african or anything, but dark whites.......so me thinks and i think modern archeology isshowing, a link between those that lived in and left N. Spain for the British Isles.....
Would love to know about DNA testing, etc an the language issues noted are intriguing